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d-null 11-16-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15063623)
i'm like five-eleven and 145 half of the dudes are six-four 245 if not WAY bigger...i need to know how to get them to the ground so i could head butt them ;)...not to mention if i could get them to the ground i will be exiting the scene asap not trying to finish the fight:2 cents:


if these guys are that much of bullies to want to fight someone less than half their size, then you shouldn't even be thinking of fighting them, I'd use weaponry or better yet avoid the scene altogether... don't think about trying to get them to the ground, because they will be strong enough to grab a hold of you and not let go


:2 cents:check out this video for what can happen when somebody tries to fight someone twice their size:

WARNING - the result is ugly to watch...


Anthony 11-16-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15064560)
if these guys are that much of bullies to want to fight someone less than half their size, then you shouldn't even be thinking of fighting them, I'd use weaponry or better yet avoid the scene altogether... don't think about trying to get them to the ground, because they will be strong enough to grab a hold of you and not let go


:2 cents:check out this video for what can happen when somebody tries to fight someone twice their size:

WARNING - the result is ugly to watch...


This is what happens when you train in Tae Kwon Do and think you can take on a real MMA fighter.

The mma fighter was told not to throw punches or kicks. Makes the destruction even more painful, doesn't it?

d-null 11-16-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 15064809)
This is what happens when you train in Tae Kwon Do and think you can take on a real MMA fighter.

The mma fighter was told not to throw punches or kicks. Makes the destruction even more painful, doesn't it?

maybe, but the size difference meant more than the style, that little guy could have trained all year at BJJ and he still would have lost

of course TKD which is a sport more than a realistic fighting style is not much of a help either

Anthony 11-16-2008 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15064838)
maybe, but the size difference meant more than the style, that little guy could have trained all year at BJJ and he still would have lost

of course TKD which is a sport more than a realistic fighting style is not much of a help either

If that guy trained in BJJ, he would have had a better showing. n :)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 11-16-2008 09:56 PM

Pepper Spray. It's cheaper and more effective.

Just a note though...
Some guys it just pisses them off more, especially if they been sprayed a few times by it.

But it quickly gets you the upper hand and ya goto ask yerself... Should I kick em and take advantage of the moment or run?

Which leads to...
Do you feel lucky?

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 15064309)
What exactly are you walking into that you will need to fight to the death? And if that situation is true, what have you done that you cannot seek out legal protection?

If your life is in danger, I really don't see why the welfare of the other person should even be considered. If they are trying to kill you, you kill them... whatever it takes.

i am literally walking into hell on earth on a daily basis...imagine the most unstable and volatile person you can think of and multiply it by 1000 and i'm not exaggerating...i agree with the doing whatever it takes part but if possible i'd reallllly rather not...not to mention that takes more contact and time than i want to spend in the situation...

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleestak Attack (Post 15064096)

And think of all the money you would save not having to buy a fluffy bathrobe outfit, a karate kid headband and goofy lessons.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 15065030)
If that guy trained in BJJ, he would have had a better showing. n :)

so i take it you are saying bjj should be on my list? i understand no matter what discipline it will take a while but this seems to be the consensus....also i ran into a purple belt in bjj on the way home he made it sound pretty convincing...plus he told me they have a night dedicated to throws and quick submissions, which sounded perfect...again i know it takes forever to learn but no matter which i pick i will be starting at the beginning so telling me it takes forever is of no concern...just want to know what i should be devoting my time to:winkwink:

simpson 11-17-2008 12:26 AM

Hey if you want to fight.. and create distance at the same time.. why not try "arnis"

it's a local martial arts here in my country... that uses some stick to attack and defend at the same time...

and if you're pretty skilled.. you can combine it with some kungfu , aikido, muai thai or some brazillian juijitsu...

I saw this one time in a tourney.. that he cracked open the opponents head and kicked him in his guts.. and then.. KO.. pretty cool..

Or you can learn how to do samurai techniques in arnis.. i would choose the hit and run version for you.. you hit the attacker then run.. if he chase you. you stop and hit him again.. then run..

It's kinda wuzz but hey... your a wuzz right.. hahah... just kidding...

Anthony 11-17-2008 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15065322)
so i take it you are saying bjj should be on my list? i understand no matter what discipline it will take a while but this seems to be the consensus....also i ran into a purple belt in bjj on the way home he made it sound pretty convincing...plus he told me they have a night dedicated to throws and quick submissions, which sounded perfect...again i know it takes forever to learn but no matter which i pick i will be starting at the beginning so telling me it takes forever is of no concern...just want to know what i should be devoting my time to:winkwink:

NO, I advocate buying a gun.

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by simpson (Post 15065329)
Hey if you want to fight.. and create distance at the same time.. why not try "arnis"

it's a local martial arts here in my country... that uses some stick to attack and defend at the same time...

and if you're pretty skilled.. you can combine it with some kungfu , aikido, muai thai or some brazillian juijitsu...

I saw this one time in a tourney.. that he cracked open the opponents head and kicked him in his guts.. and then.. KO.. pretty cool..

Or you can learn how to do samurai techniques in arnis.. i would choose the hit and run version for you.. you hit the attacker then run.. if he chase you. you stop and hit him again.. then run..

you had me til you tossed in sticks and swords...those are not options for me tho i might have to defend against sticks or similar shit

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 15065333)
NO, I advocate buying a gun.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

i cant have one, i know the scenario sounds way far fetched but trust me it is not:warning...

jakethedog 11-17-2008 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15063925)
yep tis my front runner for #1 but i think i really need to combine something with it:thumbsup:thumbsup


btw what are your dimensions and what fighting styles give you problems when you fight against...knowing what gives bigger guys problems would help.. you pic looks about like 35% of my attackers....and if anthony steps in this thread he would be perfect for that question cause he seems about 35% of whats coming at me as well...


and thanks for the replies so far :)

6' 228lbs .. and there is not much that gives me a problem ... Take some kind of self defensive martial art .. there is huge part of any fight that is mental .. be aggressive..focused and deliberate in your every action in any situation ..then transfer that to your life for that matter ..

simpson 11-17-2008 12:36 AM

haha.. hey it's very effective.. just grab something.. and then your off to go..

or you might want to learn my technique in fighting?

grab something throw at the opponent.. grab his head.. and punch the ear.... that should knock out the guy whose bullying you... then when his disoriented.. try to break the knee...

worked for me when i fought on a square...

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog (Post 15065344)
6' 228lbs .. and there is not much that gives me a problem ... Take some kind of self defensive martial art .. there is huge part of any fight that is mental .. be aggressive..focused and deliberate in your every action in any situation ..then transfer that to your life for that matter ..

yep thats a prototypical body i'll be up against...i'm so doomed:Oh crap
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Originally Posted by simpson (Post 15065345)
haha.. hey it's very effective.. just grab something.. and then your off to go..

or you might want to learn my technique in fighting?

grab something throw at the opponent.. grab his head.. and punch the ear.... that should knock out the guy whose bullying you... then when his disoriented.. try to break the knee...

worked for me when i fought on a square...

:1orglaugh

again i don't know how to make it any clearer i basically have my wallet in my pocket and that's it...ain't shit around to grab and throw and i am not a rapper so my wallet isnt full of benji's...i can't just make it rain on them til they forget the fact they want me dead :upsidedow

d-null 11-17-2008 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by simpson (Post 15065345)
haha.. hey it's very effective.. just grab something.. and then your off to go..

or you might want to learn my technique in fighting?

grab something throw at the opponent.. grab his head.. and punch the ear.... that should knock out the guy whose bullying you... then when his disoriented.. try to break the knee...

worked for me when i fought on a square...

did viencarl teach you his mastery of the martial arts?

jakethedog 11-17-2008 12:56 AM

I think your missing the whole point here ..

Why ....Why is it that bigger guys are going to want to have any issues at all with you .. from my experience .. (and I do have a fair amount ..old and grumpy) .. Guys just don't go looking to bust some young kids ass ..unless he is some sort of ass munch loud mouth who is sticking his nose where it shouldn't be .. if your piping up and not minding your own business your asking for trouble .. and truth is .. like my daddy always said .. there is and always will be someone bigger meaner and stronger ..Time to evaluate your own actions I would say .. ??

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog (Post 15065370)
I think your missing the whole point here ..

Why ....Why is it that bigger guys are going to want to have any issues at all with you .. from my experience .. (and I do have a fair amount ..old and grumpy) .. Guys just don't go looking to bust some young kids ass ..unless he is some sort of ass munch loud mouth who is sticking his nose where it shouldn't be .. if your piping up and not minding your own business your asking for trouble .. and truth is .. like my daddy always said .. there is and always will be someone bigger meaner and stronger ..Time to evaluate your own actions I would say .. ??

i'd rather not come right out and say it...but i've been at it for a while and the only reason i'm not dead or paralyzed is the fact i am the nicest guy on the planet and generally nobody has a reason to dislike me...it's not my actions that will start the confrontation it is my position i can be the nicest person on the planet but that doesn't matter to them...

Anthony 11-17-2008 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jakethedog (Post 15065370)
I think your missing the whole point here ..

Why ....Why is it that bigger guys are going to want to have any issues at all with you .. from my experience .. (and I do have a fair amount ..old and grumpy) .. Guys just don't go looking to bust some young kids ass ..unless he is some sort of ass munch loud mouth who is sticking his nose where it shouldn't be .. if your piping up and not minding your own business your asking for trouble .. and truth is .. like my daddy always said .. there is and always will be someone bigger meaner and stronger ..Time to evaluate your own actions I would say .. ??

Jake did I meet you in Atlanta this year? Said you fought muay thai, but haven't trained in 8 years.

Anyways, I'm with Jake here, there is always a reaction to every action.

d-null 11-17-2008 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BusterBunny (Post 15065382)
i'd rather not come right out and say it...but i've been at it for a while and the only reason i'm not dead or paralyzed is the fact i am the nicest guy on the planet and generally nobody has a reason to dislike me...it's not my actions that will start the confrontation it is my position i can be the nicest person on the planet but that doesn't matter to them...

so why don't you change your position? if you aren't getting rich doing it, is it worth it? and if you are getting rich doing it, why don't you hire some big protection?

moeloubani 11-17-2008 01:20 AM

sounds like your life is in danger, try the police

jakethedog 11-17-2008 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 15065410)
Jake did I meet you in Atlanta this year? Said you fought muay thai, but haven't trained in 8 years.

Anyways, I'm with Jake here, there is always a reaction to every action.

Phoenix or Miami is where we met actually i think ..??

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15065414)
so why don't you change your position?

i owe someone...similar scenario to not seeing your dying mother and getting to say goodbye...my location under my avatar is my actual location will be there for 2 minutes google away you'll figure it out...i kindly ask you to please keep your findings away from here tho

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 01:27 AM

i gave extra time even congrats to the winners

moeloubani 11-17-2008 01:31 AM

life in danger = police

otherwise enjoy your beating!

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 15065428)
life in danger = police

otherwise enjoy your beating!

um i saved the police the other day and i only had a wallet they had all their goodies...i've gotten lucky a few times and just gotten away but i want to look into some structured technique not just praying my flailing around will work:2 cents:

d-null 11-17-2008 01:44 AM

what did the police say?

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15065442)
what did the police say?

they were unable to speak due to injuries

moeloubani 11-17-2008 01:50 AM

lol funny

so the police got beat up, didnt call the state police?

stop being such a fuck and wasting everyones time, even living where you live doesnt mean the police have no control even with the main employer there being what it is

NickB. 11-17-2008 01:52 AM

ThaiBoxing for sure - fastest to learn - most effective on the streets

BusterBunny 11-17-2008 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 15065446)
lol funny

so the police got beat up, didnt call the state police?

stop being such a fuck and wasting everyones time, even living where you live doesnt mean the police have no control even with the main employer there being what it is

look the first people that get to me are people like me...that time can be anywhere from 15 seconds to 5 minutes if nobody is paying attention... the "police" would be like an 30mins so just drop the police all together cause they aren't comming...if you wanna troll go for it i think you might be the first one i've had it's kinda cool:winkwink:

simpson 11-17-2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15065368)
did viencarl teach you his mastery of the martial arts?

nope it's my original... wanna try it?

simpson 11-17-2008 02:22 AM

so what is this you do.. that you always talk about your wallet... relating to the big guys trying to get you?

or what is those things that you do, that makes those bitches horny.. maybe it's because your too nice..? hahah.. alot of people hate those kind of guys...

if i were you.. and you seems to have alot of money... why not hire an assassin or something like to do those fuckers.. that way your not getting your hand dirty..

then your worries are over... or get a gun... disable them forever so that they'll never get back to you..

d-null 11-17-2008 02:25 AM

that is pretty good advice you give him, Simpson, maybe a better idea than kicking a banana tree for 2 years trying to toughen himself up enough to be able to beat them up on his own :1orglaugh

simpson 11-17-2008 02:31 AM

yeah ... he could try that too.. heheh..:thumbsup

hey it worked with the muai thai guy... maybe if he watched ong bak.. maybe hell get some idea.. how that thing will be applied and put to work...

grab some elephant bones and use it as your weapon.. pretty cool...

moeloubani 11-17-2008 02:42 AM

lol when you first said wallet i wasnt thinking wallet like by using your money

i was thinking like james bond style wallet thrown at one dude and bouncing off all the others and returning to your hand

lol fuck :1orglaugh

Adultnet 11-17-2008 04:17 AM

Study karate :)


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