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crockett · 11-15-2008, 09:07 AM

If one of your customers is using false whois info on a domain hosted by you are you required to pull their hosting? Are there any rules like that, if it's obvious they are they are faking their whois info and the domain is being used to exploit other sites?

(ie every thing is listed as N/A)

Oracle Porn · 11-15-2008, 09:11 AM

no, hosting companies aren't the ICANN police

woj · 11-15-2008, 11:35 AM

If they are doing shady stuff with the domain, then it's probably not a good idea to be hosting them...

webair · 11-15-2008, 01:37 PM

You can contact the registrar and submit a complaint about false information documented in the whois. They will in turn attempt to contact the client. If it's bogus info they will pull the domain after a certain amount of attempts to contact the owner.

Cash · 11-16-2008, 05:08 AM

Probably it's the job of Icann or the registrar ... I find it hard to believe they will take action. It's even hard to contact icann ...

cotsios · 11-16-2008, 08:54 AM

nope they cant delete you

SpeakEasy · 11-16-2008, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cotsios

nope they cant delete you

Of course they can if you are breaking any of their terms like bull shit whois info.

webair · 11-16-2008, 12:53 PM

The registrar can delete you if your whois info is not legit, or if you are doing something malicious with the domain.

wootpr0n · 11-17-2008, 12:43 AM

As a web host you do not have to suspend a hosting account for any reason.

If your client has invalid whois AND you receive a complaint from somebody about your client's invalid whois THEN you are required to investigate the validity of the complaint AND THEN if you determine that the whois is invalid AND you contact the customer to inform them that it is invalid AND the customer does not provide accurate data within a reasonable amount of time THEN you have to suspend THE DOMAIN NAME until accurate whois data is provided.

And usually it is a valid e-mail and telephone number. By valid, I mean working. An e-mail will either bounce back or it won't and a telephone will either ring or it won't. There is really no way to verify the whois information because a registrant isn't required to check their e-mail, answer the telephone, or open their mailbox.

If the domain name is suspended, then when you try to go to the domain name, it goes to a suspended page put up by the registrar. But the actual hosting account isn't suspended. You could have a domain name with GoDaddy, hosted at with me and if you have invalid data, GoDaddy will suspend your domain name. I won't suspend your hosting account, won't know that there was a problem, and probably wouldn't care.

sandman! · 11-17-2008, 12:53 AM

care to quote a law about this ?

I have never heard of anyone loosing hosting due to whois info.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wootpr0n

As a web host you do not have to suspend a hosting account for any reason.

If your client has invalid whois AND you receive a complaint from somebody about your client's invalid whois THEN you are required to investigate the validity of the complaint AND THEN if you determine that the whois is invalid AND you contact the customer to inform them that it is invalid AND the customer does not provide accurate data within a reasonable amount of time THEN you have to suspend THE DOMAIN NAME until accurate whois data is provided.

And usually it is a valid e-mail and telephone number. By valid, I mean working. An e-mail will either bounce back or it won't and a telephone will either ring or it won't. There is really no way to verify the whois information because a registrant isn't required to check their e-mail, answer the telephone, or open their mailbox.

If the domain name is suspended, then when you try to go to the domain name, it goes to a suspended page put up by the registrar. But the actual hosting account isn't suspended. You could have a domain name with GoDaddy, hosted at with me and if you have invalid data, GoDaddy will suspend your domain name. I won't suspend your hosting account, won't know that there was a problem, and probably wouldn't care.

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11-17-2008, 12:43 AM	#9
wootpr0n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 250	As a web host you do not have to suspend a hosting account for any reason. If your client has invalid whois AND you receive a complaint from somebody about your client's invalid whois THEN you are required to investigate the validity of the complaint AND THEN if you determine that the whois is invalid AND you contact the customer to inform them that it is invalid AND the customer does not provide accurate data within a reasonable amount of time THEN you have to suspend THE DOMAIN NAME until accurate whois data is provided. And usually it is a valid e-mail and telephone number. By valid, I mean working. An e-mail will either bounce back or it won't and a telephone will either ring or it won't. There is really no way to verify the whois information because a registrant isn't required to check their e-mail, answer the telephone, or open their mailbox. If the domain name is suspended, then when you try to go to the domain name, it goes to a suspended page put up by the registrar. But the actual hosting account isn't suspended. You could have a domain name with GoDaddy, hosted at with me and if you have invalid data, GoDaddy will suspend your domain name. I won't suspend your hosting account, won't know that there was a problem, and probably wouldn't care. __________________ Sig too big http://www.gofuckyourself.com/gfy_faqs.html Want to use a large banner in your sig??? Contact Eric about getting on as an advertiser - eric AT adult.com