What's this business of charging a fee to get listed on LL - GoFuckYourself.com

Quoth the Raven · 03-18-2003, 06:17 PM

Raven has been informed by his freaks that Greenguy and his followers are seriously thinking about making webmasters pay a fee to submit their feeders regardless of whether they're accepted or not. Not only that we have fork out $600 per feeder submitted to Yahoo and $100 to $200 per feeder submitted to the other SE, now LL want to bilk us also. WTF!

Juicy D. Links · 03-18-2003, 06:18 PM

Rochard · 03-18-2003, 06:18 PM

Welcome to the real world. Reality sucks.

greenguy · 03-19-2003, 09:25 AM

It truly amazes me that people post without reading the entire thread over on Netsurprise about this.

http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/mess...ewthread/9711/

At least 3 times I said that yes, I have considered the idea, but that I have no plans what-so-ever to put the "pay per submit" procedure into place.

I think that in the future, yes, alot of link sites will be charging for reviews just like alot of TGP's are charging for submit or higher placements - and I wouldn't blame Tommy one bit for charging, as I've seen the amount of submits he gets every day & I've seen how his traffic converts.

BRISK · 03-19-2003, 09:29 AM

The Hun was considering doing the same thing.

SleazyDream · 03-19-2003, 10:34 AM

I surprized greenguy DOESN'T CHARGE for links - he has awesome traffic and MOST people WOULD GLADLY pay for it.

Quoth the Raven · 03-19-2003, 10:39 AM

Now that this has finally put to rest, we can now sleep soundly.

But could you imagine if this paying for submissing went thru and 100's of LL followed. Even at $10.00 per year per feeder per LL, most of us would be in the red....

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Originally posted by greenguy
It truly amazes me that people post without reading the entire thread over on Netsurprise about this.

http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/mess...ewthread/9711/

At least 3 times I said that yes, I have considered the idea, but that I have no plans what-so-ever to put the "pay per submit" procedure into place.

I think that in the future, yes, alot of link sites will be charging for reviews just like alot of TGP's are charging for submit or higher placements - and I wouldn't blame Tommy one bit for charging, as I've seen the amount of submits he gets every day & I've seen how his traffic converts.

xxxdesign-net · 03-19-2003, 10:41 AM

Just an advice...
Too much sites listed on greenguy... damn 700 for the teen category!
You should either accept only the best free sites... or charge for a listing...

WiredGuy · 03-19-2003, 10:53 AM

If you don't like the fees don't pay them. There's a reason these links cost money.

WG

DrewKole · 03-19-2003, 11:35 AM

I'd submit more if they charged. =)

I think they should, then we could get the whiney sniveling little bitchy newbs out of the business.

SiMpLe · 03-19-2003, 11:37 AM

I agree with wired guy - There are a buttload of TGPs and Thumb Previews that have incorporated a fee to acquire the top heavy hit spots. Look at Cyber Cats solution as well for top ten listings. (5k-10k+ for that solution per month)

I've seen first hand how the link list traffic from Green Guy and Tommy's converts vs. heavy TGP traffic - I would pay for a top spot for sure - It's like going to the ATM.

Business is business folks - Lets say you run a site with traffic that converts pretty much anything you throw at it with a 1/150+ ratio - are you going to give it away for free forever... or are you going to try and make a few bucks for all the time and effort it took to build it up to the point it is today.

Just my

ZoiNk · 03-19-2003, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
Just an advice...
Too much sites listed on greenguy... damn 700 for the teen category!
You should either accept only the best free sites... or charge for a listing...

They come and go though, if a page hasn't been modified in 6 months, it gets dropped from GG's list. Keeps the sites fresh and the surfers coming back if they don't join the sponsors or even if they do.
ZoiNk

Wizzo · 03-19-2003, 11:55 AM

I think the real question should be, "What's this business of NOT charging a fee to get listed on LL"

Like it was said... This is business(for some)....

playa · 03-19-2003, 11:55 AM

GreenGuy and Tommy's got real good traffic

SGS · 03-19-2003, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrewKole
I'd submit more if they charged. =)

I think they should, then we could get the whiney sniveling little bitchy newbs out of the business.

Exactly...

Quoth the Raven · 03-19-2003, 02:36 PM

On TGP when you pay, your guaranty of getting your galleries/thumbs accepted. On the other hand, from what we heard so far, LL paid submissions would be like those SE submissions (i.e. you pay but your feeder may not get accepted). Big difference between those two....

Quote:

Originally posted by SiMpLe
I agree with wired guy - There are a buttload of TGPs and Thumb Previews that have incorporated a fee to acquire the top heavy hit spots. Look at Cyber Cats solution as well for top ten listings. (5k-10k+ for that solution per month)

Just my

Tipsy · 03-19-2003, 02:43 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
On TGP when you pay, your guaranty of getting your galleries/thumbs accepted. On the other hand, from what we heard so far, LL paid submissions would be like those SE submissions (i.e. you pay but your feeder may not get accepted). Big difference between those two....

Simple answer is don't build crap. Fortunately most LL's including the big guys kept their business hats on and realised people build to make money and need to advertise unlike many of the TGP's out there. I never have problems getting listed with GG as he has sensible rules that are easy enough to follow. I would imagine the only reason for rejecting a paid sub would be simply that it's total crap.

DrewKole summed it up for me. This IS a business and it's just a shame more people don't realise that from some of the big 'players' downwards.

greenguy · 03-19-2003, 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by Quoth the Raven
On TGP when you pay, your guaranty of getting your galleries/thumbs accepted.

So you really think that if you pay for listing at a TGP & then submit to them a FPA with no pics, that they'd list it?

03-18-2003, 06:17 PM	#1
Quoth the Raven Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The State of Mind Posts: 617	What's this business of charging a fee to get listed on LL Raven has been informed by his freaks that Greenguy and his followers are seriously thinking about making webmasters pay a fee to submit their feeders regardless of whether they're accepted or not. Not only that we have fork out $600 per feeder submitted to Yahoo and $100 to $200 per feeder submitted to the other SE, now LL want to bilk us also. WTF! __________________ Quoth the Raven, nevermore.

03-18-2003, 06:18 PM	#3
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03-19-2003, 09:25 AM	#4
greenguy Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 77	It truly amazes me that people post without reading the entire thread over on Netsurprise about this. http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/mess...ewthread/9711/ At least 3 times I said that yes, I have considered the idea, but that I have no plans what-so-ever to put the "pay per submit" procedure into place. I think that in the future, yes, alot of link sites will be charging for reviews just like alot of TGP's are charging for submit or higher placements - and I wouldn't blame Tommy one bit for charging, as I've seen the amount of submits he gets every day & I've seen how his traffic converts. __________________ Greenguy Links

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03-19-2003, 10:41 AM	#8
xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	Just an advice... Too much sites listed on greenguy... damn 700 for the teen category! You should either accept only the best free sites... or charge for a listing...

03-19-2003, 10:53 AM	#9
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03-19-2003, 11:35 AM	#10
DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	I'd submit more if they charged. =) I think they should, then we could get the whiney sniveling little bitchy newbs out of the business.

03-19-2003, 11:37 AM	#11
SiMpLe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Porn Central - California Posts: 3,221	I agree with wired guy - There are a buttload of TGPs and Thumb Previews that have incorporated a fee to acquire the top heavy hit spots. Look at Cyber Cats solution as well for top ten listings. (5k-10k+ for that solution per month) I've seen first hand how the link list traffic from Green Guy and Tommy's converts vs. heavy TGP traffic - I would pay for a top spot for sure - It's like going to the ATM. Business is business folks - Lets say you run a site with traffic that converts pretty much anything you throw at it with a 1/150+ ratio - are you going to give it away for free forever... or are you going to try and make a few bucks for all the time and effort it took to build it up to the point it is today. Just my __________________ Sean Holland Vice President OrbitalPay / Global Electronic Technology (GET) SKYPE: iam.sean ::: sholland at orbitalpay.com 888-775-1500

03-19-2003, 11:55 AM	#13
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	I think the real question should be, "What's this business of NOT charging a fee to get listed on LL" Like it was said... This is business(for some).... __________________ Looking for Opportunity!

03-19-2003, 11:55 AM	#14
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	GreenGuy and Tommy's got real good traffic