Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 15014589)

baddog cannot debate, he only posts a single biased brainwashed hinting sentence without arguments, all the time.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15011242)

You are dumber than I thought. I apologize for underestimating your ignorance.

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 15013774)

:1orglaugh USA is in the shitter right now with trillions in debt, Russia is not in debt, they're rolling in oil money and will keep rolling because oil demand will not die anytime soon.... it's AMAZING to me how people in states get manipulated so easily by their own government.. USA goes fucks up bunch of countries for no reason, kill a bunch of people for no reason and that's ok because that's "democracy"... then fucking Georgia trained by states levels whole fucking town of innocent people overnight, Russians go help out South Asetia and CNN reports how Russians attacked Georgia...:1orglaugh so now USA says Russia is bad and should stop, and all European countries who are Bush puppets have to agree... they ask Russia to leave, Russian's do leave Georgia, then Bush signs with Poland for a missile shield... so now Russia is pissed because all they did is protected their people, they say they will put a shield as well with a jammer, so now everybody in states go OH NO THOSE COMMIES OMG THEY SO EVIL :1orglaugh ... mannnnn, you people are so fucking stupid I have no words for you... Russia doesn't want to fight, Russia wants to leave in peace after so many fucking wars, but the damn USA doesn't give enough respect, they keep pushing buttons... and all the keyboard warriors here saying how USA will wipe out Russia, maybe they will do that BUT 90% of USA will be wiped out as well, Russia IS NOT Iraq or Iran... USA vs Russia means most of you will not exist anymore :Oh crap what if Russia put missile defense system in Canada right now, how would you feel ?

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15014404)

NOOOway, did I read this correct? Weakness?

Here's the Russian Stock market:

www.rts.ru/en/classic
Hi: 2670.61 Low: 694.06

How would you like wake up one day and find out all your country's stock is now worth 70% less? ..and then find out that the bulk of the RUSSIAN investors cashed out and bought US treasury bonds.

Currency:
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/co...submit=Convert

If you're not aware your country is repeating 1998 AGAIN... YOU heard here first. I bet in the next 120 days the Russian banking system will collapse AGAIN.:2 cents:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15015164)

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 15014589)

baddog cannot debate, he only posts a single biased brainwashed hinting sentence without arguments, all the time.

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ (Post 15014475)

Oh forgot to add... look on the front of www.drudgereport.com Nice democracy Russia has going there. :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15015638)

The paper said Putin, who is currently prime minister, could then rule for two six year terms, so from 2009 to 2021. The paper cited Putin's spokesman as saying he saw no reason for Putin to return to power in 2009.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081106/...medvedev_putin

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15015108)

It is always amusing to hear Russians whose economy is in the midst of a catastrophic collapse running their mouths about how the US is going down the drain. Take a 20 minute drive outside of Moscow and see the villages with dirt roads and the millions of desperate people in crumbling Soviet housing blocks trying to get by on a few dollars a day and you will understand the real Russian economic situation.

I always wonder how these semi-literate, inbred Russian peasants manage to login to GFY in the first place. Likely they are in some crowded, dark internet cafe that smells of stale piss and warm vodka spending their last rubles so they can post about the coming demise of the American empire. You would be better off going to the corner kiosk and getting some more vodka so you can pass out peacefully in your cramped apartment you share with your mother, sister and grandmother (all your male family members having long since succumbed to alcoholism) so you can wake up tomorrow and continue your rantings against the evil Americans and their doomed empire.

My point was about the perception of weakness that the election of Obama gives to America's enemies and how it will encourage them to make more aggressive maneuvers. The Russian people may be pathetic alcoholic peasants but Tzar Putin is a strong and determined leader who will run circles around an inexperienced, platitude spouting, empty suit like Obama.

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 15010879)

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15016510)

Putin does not need to return to power as he is currently in power.

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 15016643)

Sorry if i'm wrong but isn't that Russian in your sig?

Originally Posted by pigman (Post 15017406)

Bush is still the president isn't he?

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15014550)

LAMO I love how bad pug will piss with some then ignore others :thumbsup

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15015164)

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15015164)

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 15013774)

what if Russia put missile defense system in Canada right now, how would you feel ?

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15012133)

I think Obama is far from weak and they will regret trying to play him. He said it last night, he isnt going to fuck around.

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15010901)

wow,



no offense to russians on this forum, but seriously why do these fucking assholes act this way?

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15015164)

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15018005)

Imagine if Russia planned to build an anti-missile system in Mexico sitting right across from the USA border. We would have already attacked them.

Remember when they were sending missiles to Cuba and we almost went to war with them? They invaded our personal space and we found it to be a threat, the same as they are threatened now because we are in their personal space putting up an anti-missile system that can strike down THEIR missiles.

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 15018320)

You'd have to be incredibly naive to think the anti missile system is for defence against Iran. Iran's best missle can barley reach eastern europe.

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15018017)

We are gong to have to agree to agree on this. The Russians don't have much choice but to respond to such an aggressive move from the US. I think the US is making the correct move to place the missiles (to counteract Iran), but the Russians don't have much choice but to respond or else look helpless. Putin certainly knows this. Of course Obama is so far out of his league when it comes to a geopolitical chess match with Putin that it would be funny if it was not so dangerous. :helpme

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15019638)

You make a good point that Iran currently poses no threat to Europe. The missile defense system is primarily symbolic as an expression of US power in the region. But it would also be naive to assume the Iranians are standing still and are not developing a longer range ballistic missile along with their nuclear program. The Iranians have long stated their intention to have long range nuclear ballistic missile capability and they are doing everything they can to archive that as quickly as possible. Only the most naive apologist or a propagandist would try to suggest otherwise (which one are you Buzzy?).

At the same time it is perfectly understandable how an expression of US power in Poland would upset the Russians. Putin has no choice but to make some kind of symbolic response.

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15011062)

The Russians can sense weakness. They know the election of Obama weakens the US and encourages its enemies. Now is the perfect time to make a move. The US public has decided they prefer to be liked rather than respected. I am sure that the various global powers have received the message that the US is no longer to be feared. The election of Obama was the equivalent of waving a big white flag to our enemies. That is why the enemies of the US were so supportive of electing Obama and why they were celebrating last night and making their plans this morning. :disgust

Originally Posted by Gambrinus (Post 15024215)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7717669.stm

Obama 'to honour' missile plans

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 15023019)

Can you blame the Iranians for wanting to advance their weaponary when they are weekly threatened by not only Israel but the USA also of a blitz on their country. Regardless what Ahmadinejad said about wiping the Israeli regime off the map, it dosen't add up to the countless times that the USA and Israel have threatened it.

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15024456)

Of course I don't blame the Iranians for wanting to have nuclear weapons and long range missile delivery systems. It would vastly increase their power in the region and their bargaining power worldwide. At the same time I don't blame the US, the Israelis and the Saudis from wanting to stop them. The US is fighting a proxy war with Iran in Iraq as we speak. The Israelis have been fighting a proxy war with Iran (through Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad) for a very long time. The Saudi leadership fears Iranian and Shia domination in the region. They all have very good reasons to fear Iran going nuclear.

Like many conflicts there are many sides and many interested parties. As an American I support the US and Israel in this conflict. You support Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, etc. along with many others who feel the same. Obviously Iran going nuclear will be a huge victory (both politically and strategically) for militant Islam while at the same time represent a huge setback for the Western interests which are are battling against it. Neither side has a monopoly on righteousness. In a battle for survival people must pick sides. I know what side I am on. You know what side you are on.

Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 15012345)

btw the russians are playing this exactly like the american warlords they only use a little less politicaly correct talk. Turn the tables on the situation, if the russians would place a missile shield in mexico how would the US react?

see the big picture here its all a game of money and power and we the public are being brainwashed and conditioned into supporting war. Im astonished some people in this thread still fall for it, havent you learned anything from all the wars?

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 15024520)

I disagree. It's far from being black and white as you portray it. I support justice, so if i feel that someone is being dealt with unjustly i will support them. The problem i see with Israel calling for Iran to stop it's (non-existant) nuclear problem is that Israel has hundreds of nukes of its own.

Originally Posted by cykoe6

Like many conflicts there are many sides and many interested parties. As an American I support the US and Israel in this conflict. You support Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, etc.