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sltr 11-05-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 15012460)
where does your link say anything about being a myth

it's a bunch of different quotes from different people strung together on the internet

it wasn't even written by tytler, not his concept, nada.

stickyfingerz 11-05-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15012137)
and when he does well, will you be man enough to say i was wrong?

I will be. :2 cents: I'm hoping for the best. Why? Well this is my country too. I don't want bad things to happen. I just fear that they will. :Oh crap But Im staying positive about it. If they reduce criminalizing stupid things like... weed... prostitution.. porn.. etc That would be good. We'll see how things go.

Brujah 11-05-2008 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15008169)
When does the UK, Canada, Australia get their dictatorship? They're ahead of us in the cycle right?

Rob, could you help enlighten me to the answer of this one?

robfantasy 11-05-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sltr (Post 15012503)
it's a bunch of different quotes from different people strung together on the internet

it wasn't even written by tytler, not his concept, nada.

yea but the concept and examples are not a "myth"

robfantasy 11-05-2008 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15012528)
Rob, could you help enlighten me to the answer of this one?

yea cuba

Brujah 11-05-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 15012534)
yea cuba

The question was:
When does the UK, Canada, Australia get their dictatorship? They're ahead of us in the cycle right?

pocketkangaroo 11-05-2008 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15012522)
I will be. :2 cents: I'm hoping for the best. Why? Well this is my country too. I don't want bad things to happen. I just fear that they will. :Oh crap But Im staying positive about it. If they reduce criminalizing stupid things like... weed... prostitution.. porn.. etc That would be good. We'll see how things go.

I'd throw in gambling too. It's time our government stopped butting into our homes and private lives.

stickyfingerz 11-05-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 15012565)
I'd throw in gambling too. It's time our government stopped butting into our homes and private lives.

True I would throw that one in there as well.

MediaGuy 11-05-2008 08:41 PM

However, it seems Democrats leave office with a surplus, while Republicans lately have been leaving behind empty coffers as they waddle away from office with bulging pockets...

Funny.

Ace_luffy 11-05-2008 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bhutocracy (Post 15008243)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 09:04 PM

LOL, as usual, everyone on this board completely misses his point and turns the thread into a typical Republican VS. Democrat thing. It's pretty sad how the people of America are divided into 2 groups and don't see a problem with it, divide and conquer.

Just look at the cycle picture he posted, it's exactly what happened in history, what's happening now, and what is going to happen soon.

Do any of you morons actually think Obama is going to stifle Bush's police state that he has laid the groundwork for? Do you actually think he's going to get rid of the Patriot Act? Of course not, the plan is going right on schedule and will intensify under Obama's presidency.

StuartD 11-05-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15012750)
LOL, as usual, everyone on this board completely misses his point and turns the thread into a typical Republican VS. Democrat thing. It's pretty sad how the people of America are divided into 2 groups and don't see a problem with it, divide and conquer.

Just look at the cycle picture he posted, it's exactly what happened in history, what's happening now, and what is going to happen soon.

Do any of you morons actually think Obama is going to stifle Bush's police state that he has laid the groundwork for? Do you actually think he's going to get rid of the Patriot Act? Of course not, the plan is going right on schedule and will intensify under Obama's presidency.

Again, would you guys be spouting this crap if McCain had won? No.

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15012775)
Again, would you guys be spouting this crap if McCain had won? No.

Jesus Christ. You are a perfect example of how people just don't get it.

Of course I'd be saying the same thing if McCain won.

Brujah 11-05-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15012750)
LOL, as usual, everyone on this board completely misses his point and turns the thread into a typical Republican VS. Democrat thing. It's pretty sad how the people of America are divided into 2 groups and don't see a problem with it, divide and conquer.

Just look at the cycle picture he posted, it's exactly what happened in history, what's happening now, and what is going to happen soon.

I repeat my question. So what about the other countries farther along in the cycle? When do they get their dictators? We'll see it happen first in the UK right?

StuartD 11-05-2008 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15012789)
Jesus Christ. You are a perfect example of how people just don't get it.

Of course I'd be saying the same thing if McCain won.

Really? So where was this epiphany 4 years ago? Or even a month ago?

Oh right, it didn't happen until after your candidate of choice lost. Funny how that happens. :glugglug

Drake 11-05-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15012522)
If they reduce criminalizing stupid things like... weed... prostitution.. porn.. [gambling] etc That would be good. We'll see how things go.

The religious right will be thrilled.

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15012801)
I repeat my question. So what about the other countries farther along in the cycle? When do they get their dictators? We'll see it happen first in the UK right?

No dictators yet.

The monetary system is obviously the first thing to be globalized. World leaders have recently been talking about new "world financial orders" and a possible world currency.

They are meeting on November 14th or 15th to decide.

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15012802)
Really? So where was this epiphany 4 years ago? Or even a month ago?

Oh right, it didn't happen until after your candidate of choice lost. Funny how that happens. :glugglug

Dude, you don't get it at all. I would never support McCain or Obama, and you obviously don't even understand why that is, which is the problem in our country.

steved 11-05-2008 09:45 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/image....1&type=profile

Think of how great the next 4 years would be, if he had won...

uno 11-05-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra (Post 15008101)
You're my new favorite person. =]

I've never spoken with him personally, that I can remember, but I could have told you that a long time ago Mark. BTW, we have to hang out soon.

robfantasy 11-05-2008 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15012750)
LOL, as usual, everyone on this board completely misses his point and turns the thread into a typical Republican VS. Democrat thing. It's pretty sad how the people of America are divided into 2 groups and don't see a problem with it, divide and conquer.

Just look at the cycle picture he posted, it's exactly what happened in history, what's happening now, and what is going to happen soon.

Do any of you morons actually think Obama is going to stifle Bush's police state that he has laid the groundwork for? Do you actually think he's going to get rid of the Patriot Act? Of course not, the plan is going right on schedule and will intensify under Obama's presidency.

hey man thanks for being informed and speaking up on behalf of the truth

glad to see there are some people on here who can actually see whats really going on.

MediaGuy 11-05-2008 09:53 PM

That cycle doesn't work in the technological age in which we live being that it relies on the passing nature of culture, politics and the power infrastructure, which nowadays are much more entrenched and don't end up "passing away" the way the old pre-technological societies did...

Witness the bounty of the 700 billion dollar bailout...

Whether or not it actually survives, "democracy" will be a perceived actuarial government form for a lot longer than Babylon or the Roman empire.

robfantasy 11-05-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 15012895)
That cycle doesn't work in the technological age in which we live being that it relies on the passing nature of culture, politics and the power infrastructure, which nowadays are much more entrenched and don't end up "passing away" the way the old pre-technological societies did...

Witness the bounty of the 700 billion dollar bailout...

Whether or not it actually survives, "democracy" will be a perceived actuarial government form for a lot longer than Babylon or the Roman empire.

to be honest, i belive the repubs set up mccain as a fall guy...they looted wall street, stole billions w/ the bailout, all because they knew the next 4 years are going to be a nightmare.. they gave the american people the big fuck you and will lay low for 4 years while they leave dems to clean up the mess.

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by steved (Post 15012867)
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/image....1&type=profile

Think of how great the next 4 years would be, if he had won...

So you think Obama will repeal all of Bush's bullshit laws and executive orders? lol, fat chance! He's going to expand on them.

We were screwed either way in this election, as usual.

uno 11-05-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15012855)
Dude, you don't get it at all. I would never support McCain or Obama, and you obviously don't even understand why that is, which is the problem in our country.

http://bp1.blogger.com/_UMJPRMUyTLA/...04782_9204.jpg

link hotten

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by uno (Post 15012925)

International bankers controlling our financial and political systems is not some fantasy alien "theory" you faggot, it's what actually has been happening for years.

Last guy who tried to challenge the bankers was JFK, look what happened to him.

Obama has never said he would get rid of the Federal Reserve, therefore he is obviously going to continue to let them control our money, instead of putting it back into the hands of the treasury and the congress as the constitution calls for.

Mutt 11-05-2008 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15012522)
If they reduce criminalizing stupid things like... weed... prostitution.. porn.. etc That would be good. We'll see how things go.

and then all you Bible Belters will blame the liberals for more moral decay in America

half of the people whom you side with politically after hanging some black criminals from a tree would love to hang the pornographers next

cykoe6 11-05-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15012958)
International bankers controlling our financial and political systems is not some fantasy alien "theory" you faggot, it's what actually has been happening for years.

Last guy who tried to challenge the bankers was JFK, look what happened to him.

Obama has never said he would get rid of the Federal Reserve, therefore he is obviously going to continue to let them control our money, instead of putting it back into the hands of the treasury and the congress as the constitution calls for.

While your paranoid delusions about the Federal Reserve are patently ridiculous the general idea about the cycle of dependency and how it relates to political freedom is quite true. It is quite sad to see how easily people are willing to give up more and more personal and political freedoms in exchange for more dependency on the government. The US was built on the ideas of individual freedoms and individual responsibilities and these concepts are being seriously eroded by both political parties. The US is clearly on the path to European style democratic socialism and I personally think that is a real shame. :(

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15013059)
While your paranoid delusions about the Federal Reserve are patently ridiculous the general idea about the cycle of dependency and how it relates to political freedom is quite true. It is quite sad to see how easily people are willing to give up more and more personal and political freedoms in exchange for more dependency on the government. The US was built on the ideas of individual freedoms and individual responsibilities and these concepts are being seriously eroded by both political parties. The US is clearly on the path to European style democratic socialism and I personally think that is a real shame. :(

It's strange how you come across as seeming to know what's going on, yet you don't seem to understand the history and workings of the Federal Reserve, our central bank.

Great presidents like Lincoln and JFK have died opposing these central banks. They tried to kill Andrew Jackson for opposing the First Bank of the United States, but failed. Jackson said he wanted "I Killed the Bank" written on his tombstone.

But most people won't listen, they are convinced the FED is a government entity, and won't even question the root of it's existence.

The Federal Reserve is about as federal as Federal Express.

SuckOnThis 11-05-2008 10:40 PM

So do you have fantasies over a guy named Rob, Tom Cruise, a guy named Rob that looks like Tom Cruise, or are you Rob and fantasize over Tom Cruise? I'm fuckin confused man!

steved 11-05-2008 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15012916)
So you think Obama will repeal all of Bush's bullshit laws and executive orders? lol, fat chance! He's going to expand on them.

We were screwed either way in this election, as usual.

Where did I say that? Calm the fuck down man:pimp

StickyGreen 11-05-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by steved (Post 15013093)
Where did I say that? Calm the fuck down man:pimp

You basically said that by the picture you posted.

You're implying that since Obama is elected, we don't have 4 more years of "Bush".

And I asked you, do you really think Obama is going to repeal the laws and executive orders that were made under the Bush admin?

robfantasy 11-05-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 15013081)
So do you have fantasies over a guy named Rob, Tom Cruise, a guy named Rob that looks like Tom Cruise, or are you Rob and fantasize over Tom Cruise? I'm fuckin confused man!


my first venture was an escort/stripper service when i was 18.

hence the picture of tom cruise in risky business

steved 11-05-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by StickyGreen (Post 15013109)
You basically said that by the picture you posted.

You're implying that since Obama is elected, we don't have 4 more years of "Bush".

And I asked you, do you really think Obama is going to repeal the laws and executive orders that were made under the Bush admin?

Bush sucked and still sucks. McCain and Palin were not a real choice for any sane person. Who did you vote for? Nader?

NTSS 11-06-2008 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 15008043)
Did you guys cry this much when Bill Clinton was elected?

probably not


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