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Old 11-04-2008, 01:56 PM   #1
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Filipino Chat dudes are now calling me on the phone

k, the weekly annoying ICQ's were already bad enough. Today I had a guy join our program and call me because my number is listed in the webmaster area.

For the reps and owners out there, you know who i'm talking about.

Call comes in from Unknown number.

Me - Hello?
Chatter - What kind of traffic do you take?
Me - What kind of traffic do you have, I will tell you if we accept it or not.
Chatter - I have an office of 40 chatters in Phillipines, we can make 500 sales per week by talking to customers on yahoo.
Me - No, i'm sorry we can't accept that.
Chatter - what do you mean?
Me - well, that traffic is worthless, we don't accept it.
Chatter - well, i already joined your program we can start today!
Me - no
Chatter - is there any we can do business together.
Me - if you do revshare I will take it (knowing these guys are scammers and would never do this)
Chatter - On your site it says $50 per signup.
Me - thats not for webmasters from the phillipines who chat. we only do revshare
Chatter - can you show me where it says this on your site?
Me - I will email you the link
Chatter - Okay, we can bring 500 signups per week.
Me - K, bye.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:58 PM   #2
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I wonder if it's the same guys I terminated last week
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:00 PM   #3
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That's pretty fucking wild.

Why would they be so honest about it?

Crazy shit though, 500 sales weekly from IM spam.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:00 PM   #4
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Damn what a muppet lol
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:04 PM   #5
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Have you seen those chat logs? I have! They tell the surfer to join a site to see them, then the surfer asks where are you? They say, oh, you have to goto this link and join too.. no charges, no worries.. again and again.. some people get conned into joining 4-5 times.. its sick
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:06 PM   #6
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I wonder if it's the same guys I terminated last week
I had never even heard of these chat centers until last winter. It's stange because i will get a bunch of them over a months period that sign-up and then nothing for 2 months.

I picked one of the guys brains on ICQ to get a better understanding of how it works. He explained that the people in his office are paid commish only and get about 80-90% of every signup they generate. Revshare would be bad for the simple fact that the going rate over there is about $30 per sale.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:13 PM   #7
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bad enough getting these guys on icq all the time... if they started calling me i'd fucking scream
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:16 PM   #8
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I had never even heard of these chat centers until last winter. It's stange because i will get a bunch of them over a months period that sign-up and then nothing for 2 months.

I picked one of the guys brains on ICQ to get a better understanding of how it works. He explained that the people in his office are paid commish only and get about 80-90% of every signup they generate. Revshare would be bad for the simple fact that the going rate over there is about $30 per sale.
They don't want revshare.. they want PPS and they all ask if you can pay via wire. I terminated a bunch of them last week when they were flagged for fraud
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:21 PM   #9
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:29 PM   #10
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:42 PM   #11
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Holy shit, I didn't realize anyone else knew about these guys. I have hundreds of chat logs with these guys on Yahoo Messenger from this past summer. They have a group that mass spams their yahoo/hotmail im address to hundreds of different chat rooms posing as females looking for fun. When you message them they all follow the same routine, ask you where you are from to qualify you, then engage in small talk and try and get you to go to their link with the incentive that they will give you a free cam show after you sign up. The two primary sponsors they were sending to this summer were webcams.com and an eroticagateway.com link (not sure if thats quickbuck)

They were wreaking havoc on my chat rooms even after I gave them multiple warnings to stop. So I began posing as Philippino authorities investigating them for credit card fraud and started scaring a bunch of them into quitting the group. I was able to finally talk to the supposed leader of the group and acted like I was interested in a partnership. He would recruit these workers for his group and give them their own individual links to use to identify their sales, but all would go to his affiliate account and he would send them out a check when he got paid. I finally told him to keep his group out of my chat rooms and for the most part he has complied. I should post some of the chat logs, they are hilarious.

Now I'm getting spam from a different guy that spams the yahoo address blondegurl22ca and lolaluv702 Both those accounts are bots when you message them and direct surfers to http://webcamfantasies.com/member/BBY/
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:07 PM   #12
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Lol, I love messing with these guys. I just messaged one spamming one of my chat rooms, here is the log from five minutes ago. Notice how the dude is clueless I know what he's up to until the end.

pusher_punisher: hey
Jennifer Collen: hello
Jennifer Collen: how aer you
pusher_punisher: good
Jennifer Collen: im fine
Jennifer Collen: wer uf rom
pusher_punisher: nyc
Jennifer Collen: ok
Jennifer Collen: what are yo up to
pusher_punisher: just getting ready for my trip
Jennifer Collen: ok
Jennifer Collen: wer u now
pusher_punisher: oh im here, just packing my clothes for my big trip to manilla
Jennifer Collen: wer u now
pusher_punisher: im here at home
Jennifer Collen: alone
pusher_punisher: are you at work?
pusher_punisher: do they let you work at home or do you have to go in to an office and work with your group?
Jennifer Collen: babe, I will show u my cam here and i will play with you naked, but can u first vote me to my site as a good model,dont worry babe U dont need to pay anything to my site, its free!
pusher_punisher: sure id love to vote for you, but since I'm going to be in Manilla next week, we can just hook up then, no need to play over the silly computer when we can have some real fun in person
Jennifer Collen: ok
Jennifer Collen: just only click my link there babe,then register ther so that you can vote me.
http://wow.eroticagateway.com/track/NTc3OTU6Mzo0NQ/join
Jennifer Collen: after you did lets play her ein my cam nakd bbae
Jennifer Collen: only is rate me in my site first for free
Jennifer Collen: ok
Jennifer Collen: tell me if yo done babe
Jennifer Collen: wait you here
Jennifer Collen: ok
pusher_punisher: did you forget to read my last comment?
Jennifer Collen: why
pusher_punisher: I'm going to be in the Philippines next week, there is no need to play over the computer when we can meet in person
Jennifer Collen: be
pusher_punisher: where would you like to meet, I'm free next Wednesday, what day is good for you?
Jennifer Collen: bye
pusher_punisher: How about if I stop by your spam group office, how will I know its you?
Jennifer Collen has signed out. (11/4/2008 3:04 PM)


Which sponsor is this eroticagateway link, they've been spamming the hell out of that for months, it just leads to a nameless join page with cross sales.
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:09 PM   #13
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I've been getting at least one of these a week for a while now.
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:13 PM   #14
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I figured they were saying free and pissing surfers off. The couple of members they did get to join before I busted them spent ZERO dollars.
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:18 PM   #15
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I figured they were saying free and pissing surfers off. The couple of members they did get to join before I busted them spent ZERO dollars.
They always tell you its free and all you need to do is enter your cc for age verification. They mostly use goofy tactics like saying they need your "vote".
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:57 PM   #16
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:38 PM   #17
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i wonder how much it cost to buy myself a room of filipino chatters. Going to get them to chat up as many people from canadia as possible and make them vote me in for president of canadia
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