New Intel Core i7 Processors - First Reviews Out - GoFuckYourself.com

Socks · 11-03-2008, 12:39 PM

Never understand why people are so willing to beta-test new PC architectures on their own dollar, but to each their own! The tests look pretty positive.

http://hothardware.com/Articles/Inte...-Have-Arrived/

When the new Core i7 processors arrive sometime later this month, pricing for the flagship Core 2 Extreme 965 will be set at $999, the Core i7 940 at $562, and the Core i7 920 at $284. Expect enthusiast-class X58 based motherboards to sell for around $300 give or take a few dollars depending on the number of features. Considering what we've seen of the Core i7's performance so far, what this means for Core 2 pricing remains to be seen, but we suspect some price cuts are in order. Ultimately, we can't help but be impressed by the new Core i7 processors. The performance, power profile, and overclockability are all very good even at this early stage. Intel clearly has another strong product in their line-up that will undoubtedly appeal to PC enthusiasts and multimedia professionals alike.

pornguy · 11-03-2008, 01:01 PM

Kool. Not like a need a new one. but its about time they get something new

rowan · 11-03-2008, 03:21 PM

I actually DOWNGRADED my desktop machine from a 4 core Q6600 to a 2 core E2160 because it hardly does any work.

I chose an E1200 Celeron as the CPU to install in my car, surprisingly it's quite a decent processor. It's probably more powerful (and efficient) than a single core P4.

fris · 11-03-2008, 03:24 PM

I currently have a qx9775 quad core extreme, dont think i will be upgrading any time soon

rowan · 11-03-2008, 03:26 PM

Ahh bugger, it's a new socket...

Mr Pheer · 11-03-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

I actually DOWNGRADED my desktop machine from a 4 core Q6600 to a 2 core E2160 because it hardly does any work.

I chose an E1200 Celeron as the CPU to install in my car, surprisingly it's quite a decent processor. It's probably more powerful (and efficient) than a single core P4.

Why would you put a processor in your car?

And where would you put it?

farkedup · 11-03-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Why would you put a processor in your car?

And where would you put it?

carputer's are still better than those in dash hard drives chrysler uses... think of your own limitless mp3 player with touchscreens...

Anyway, video encoding looks like ~40% gains so for all of those that do tons of encoding these processors will be great! its a nice evolutionary step but not something most people will NEED to upgrade to.

I can't wait to see the core 2 pricing as these make their way out.

rowan · 11-03-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

Why would you put a processor in your car?

And where would you put it?

There's also a mainboard and various peripherals installed around the CPU.

It's not a typical "OMG I HAVE 1,000,000 MP3s ON ROTATION" carputer... this one will capture realtime video from cameras at the front and rear windscreens, store GPS logs and regularly phone home the car's position (through GSM+GPRS), do extended navigation based on previously learned routes, etc. How many car computers run Apache+PHP+mysql? :D

farkedup · 11-03-2008, 05:23 PM

cheap small laptops have mostly been replacing carputers the past few years... back in the day I had a 300Mhz P2 in my trunk beack when a 700Mhz Athlon was top of the line... haven't had one in since then ;) my ipod ended up replacing it for me and my cell phone can do about everything else I want in a mobile computer.

blazin · 11-03-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

There's also a mainboard and various peripherals installed around the CPU.

It's not a typical "OMG I HAVE 1,000,000 MP3s ON ROTATION" carputer... this one will capture realtime video from cameras at the front and rear windscreens, store GPS logs and regularly phone home the car's position (through GSM+GPRS), do extended navigation based on previously learned routes, etc. How many car computers run Apache+PHP+mysql? :D

That's madness.......

Where can I get one, lol

Rodent · 11-03-2008, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

There's also a mainboard and various peripherals installed around the CPU.

It's not a typical "OMG I HAVE 1,000,000 MP3s ON ROTATION" carputer... this one will capture realtime video from cameras at the front and rear windscreens, store GPS logs and regularly phone home the car's position (through GSM+GPRS), do extended navigation based on previously learned routes, etc. How many car computers run Apache+PHP+mysql? :D

Yea thats definitely not your normal carputer setup ;)

BigBen · 11-03-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

There's also a mainboard and various peripherals installed around the CPU.

It's not a typical "OMG I HAVE 1,000,000 MP3s ON ROTATION" carputer... this one will capture realtime video from cameras at the front and rear windscreens, store GPS logs and regularly phone home the car's position (through GSM+GPRS), do extended navigation based on previously learned routes, etc. How many car computers run Apache+PHP+mysql? :D

Slick. You have any pictures (installation/UI/etc)? Would love to hear the details of how you made it all work.

rowan · 11-03-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBen

Slick. You have any pictures (installation/UI/etc)? Would love to hear the details of how you made it all work.

Still a work in progress, the above is from a test run where I was fooling around with video capture code...

Specs are:

E1200 CPU
2GB RAM
2 x 250GB 2.5" SATA HDs in RAID1 config
2 x analog vid capture cards
2 x USB wifi (one as a host for my PDA to connect to, one as a client to transfer video and GPS data to my home network when the car is in the garage)
GSM phone connected via USB - also charges it too
GPS receiver
100W 12V ATX power supply (puts out everything including the 4 pin P4 connector, SATA power, etc)
SLA battery to keep the PC running for up to 2 hours after the engine is off
Electronic equipment case custom butchered to my needs
FreeBSD 7.0 i386, PHP, Apache, Mysql

The hw is pretty much final, although there's now an extra fan and I'll probably add a SATA-CF adapter so that video is saved to solid state memory while the vehicle is moving, then dumped to HD once the engine is off. It's the software that's going to be the fun bit, I've been pulling my hair out trying to get FreeBSD's meteor (video capture) driver to work properly... the sample code on the man page does NOT compile and no one else on the planet seems to have figured out how to do it yet.

I need to find a way to plug in mains sourced 12V (and not forget it's connected) so I can at least fully install it, then continue doing the s/w development via wifi+SSH... the wiring for the cameras, GPS and power is hidden inside the car, ready and waiting.

</geek>

brandonstills · 11-03-2008, 10:49 PM

New design looks good. Should make for much better performance.

Walrus · 11-03-2008, 10:54 PM

Still on Intel Pentium D (SmithField) here. CPUs certainly made a major change since then. And that was only a little over two years ago that I bought this computer.

A side note: I just read an entire chapter on CPUs from an A+ Certification book. I still haven't quite grasped it all. A little confused about what sockets are, and how you're supposed to memorize all the different sockets and amount of cache per L1 and L2.

TheDoc · 11-03-2008, 10:56 PM

Killer geekness Rowan, I love it!

rowan · 11-03-2008, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walrus

Still on Intel Pentium D (SmithField) here. CPUs certainly made a major change since then. And that was only a little over two years ago that I bought this computer.

Depending on how much you pay for power you may actually save $ by upgrading your "D" foot warmer. I bought one in late 2005, and recently calculated that a new m/b plus E1200 Celeron would pay itself off within something like 7 months, solely on power savings... might even try sticking the E1200 into the 2005-era m/b and see if it works.

kane · 11-03-2008, 11:28 PM

I think I am getting one this weekend. I have a friend that is an engineer at intel and he works with all the new processors so he gets some nice freebies and I get whatever he doesn't want. It is kind of like nerd Christmas.

famous · 11-04-2008, 01:12 AM

I picked up a intel 3.0 quadcore extreme, a bit mobo and 8 gigs of memeory from newegg for less then 1500 like 6 months ago. This thing can run 2 warcrafts play music and movie at the same time

only thing i dont like was being forced to vista 64bit. Its had its drawbacks but still would do it again

InternetIsForPorn · 11-04-2008, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Still a work in progress, the above is from a test run where I was fooling around with video capture code...

Specs are:

E1200 CPU
2GB RAM
2 x 250GB 2.5" SATA HDs in RAID1 config
2 x analog vid capture cards
2 x USB wifi (one as a host for my PDA to connect to, one as a client to transfer video and GPS data to my home network when the car is in the garage)
GSM phone connected via USB - also charges it too
GPS receiver
100W 12V ATX power supply (puts out everything including the 4 pin P4 connector, SATA power, etc)
SLA battery to keep the PC running for up to 2 hours after the engine is off
Electronic equipment case custom butchered to my needs
FreeBSD 7.0 i386, PHP, Apache, Mysql

The hw is pretty much final, although there's now an extra fan and I'll probably add a SATA-CF adapter so that video is saved to solid state memory while the vehicle is moving, then dumped to HD once the engine is off. It's the software that's going to be the fun bit, I've been pulling my hair out trying to get FreeBSD's meteor (video capture) driver to work properly... the sample code on the man page does NOT compile and no one else on the planet seems to have figured out how to do it yet.

I need to find a way to plug in mains sourced 12V (and not forget it's connected) so I can at least fully install it, then continue doing the s/w development via wifi+SSH... the wiring for the cameras, GPS and power is hidden inside the car, ready and waiting.

</geek>

LOL I remember doing this couple of years ago.

I actually made a "suspension" for the box under the seat so that everything is shock proof.

I had a touch-screen display in my 2-din slot connected via VGA/USB to the carputer running windows XP.

While it was _cool_, I found it totally pointless after couple of days. What's the point of capturing video from my cams? What's the point of storing all GPS data? Watching TV-shows in my car while driving? Please.

Ended up tearing it out, installing a small Pioneer cd changer and listening/streaming music from my iPhone. Whenever I need something more I take out the Asus EEE.

But yeah, I remember the geeky orgasmination while building the PC into my car

rowan · 11-04-2008, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn

While it was _cool_, I found it totally pointless after couple of days. What's the point of capturing video from my cams? What's the point of storing all GPS data? Watching TV-shows in my car while driving? Please.

I go for regular country drives. This initially started as a simpler GPS tracker project but the "bargain" $99 GPS+GSM+GPRS device I bought turned out to need a $700 software license to even program it. I figured I may as well just do it with normal PC hardware and add some extra things while I was at it.

The cameras are for a couple of things... firstly, so I can review any footage from a specific location or region I've been through. There is a business reason for this. Secondly, closer to home/civilisation I can capture the stupid things that other drivers do and post it to youtube or something.

Since it has 250GB of storage I'll probably also use it as a roving backup, perhaps even using it to ferry (important) data between the home office and anywhere I visit regularly.

So there are some good reasons for setting it up, but yeah, a large part of that is geek value.

Socks · 11-04-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

Cloth seats? ....

Just kiddin man, that's awesome!!! I'd love to have all my MP3's in my car, but then again, I'd need a pretty ridiculous LCD just to be able to navigate them relatively painlessly.

The camera recording thing is neat too, and GPS tracking.. Can you actually overlay your route on a map, calculate distances, etc?

tony286 · 11-04-2008, 07:45 PM

the problem is most software isnt set up to use all this power to its advantage.

bronco67 · 11-04-2008, 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

the problem is most software isnt set up to use all this power to its advantage.

It's great for us artists that do 3D. Every core will get used in Softimage/XSI, Lightwave, etc. After Effects is also multicore threaded.

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	New Intel Core i7 Processors - First Reviews Out Never understand why people are so willing to beta-test new PC architectures on their own dollar, but to each their own! The tests look pretty positive. http://hothardware.com/Articles/Inte...-Have-Arrived/ When the new Core i7 processors arrive sometime later this month, pricing for the flagship Core 2 Extreme 965 will be set at $999, the Core i7 940 at $562, and the Core i7 920 at $284. Expect enthusiast-class X58 based motherboards to sell for around $300 give or take a few dollars depending on the number of features. Considering what we've seen of the Core i7's performance so far, what this means for Core 2 pricing remains to be seen, but we suspect some price cuts are in order. Ultimately, we can't help but be impressed by the new Core i7 processors. The performance, power profile, and overclockability are all very good even at this early stage. Intel clearly has another strong product in their line-up that will undoubtedly appeal to PC enthusiasts and multimedia professionals alike.

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I actually DOWNGRADED my desktop machine from a 4 core Q6600 to a 2 core E2160 because it hardly does any work. I chose an E1200 Celeron as the CPU to install in my car, surprisingly it's quite a decent processor. It's probably more powerful (and efficient) than a single core P4.

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rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Ahh bugger, it's a new socket...

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Walrus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: USA Posts: 2,150	Still on Intel Pentium D (SmithField) here. CPUs certainly made a major change since then. And that was only a little over two years ago that I bought this computer. A side note: I just read an entire chapter on CPUs from an A+ Certification book. I still haven't quite grasped it all. A little confused about what sockets are, and how you're supposed to memorize all the different sockets and amount of cache per L1 and L2.

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I think I am getting one this weekend. I have a friend that is an engineer at intel and he works with all the new processors so he gets some nice freebies and I get whatever he doesn't want. It is kind of like nerd Christmas.

11-04-2008, 01:12 AM	#19
famous Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 674	I picked up a intel 3.0 quadcore extreme, a bit mobo and 8 gigs of memeory from newegg for less then 1500 like 6 months ago. This thing can run 2 warcrafts play music and movie at the same time only thing i dont like was being forced to vista 64bit. Its had its drawbacks but still would do it again

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	the problem is most software isnt set up to use all this power to its advantage.