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Why do people have a problem with drilling in Alaska?

11-01-2008, 08:18 AM

That is fucking ridiculous. We have all this oil on our own land, and we cant access it because of wildlife in Alsaska? Alaska is way-the-fuck over there, who cares?
We're going to have high gas prices and shoot ourselves in the foot so that a couple of deer and chipmunks wont have to move to a different area of the forest? And we give money to the middle east who then turns around and tries to kill us?

Other countries are laughing at us for being so pusified.
I think Sarah Palin is right. Drill baby drill.
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11-01-2008, 08:41 AM

I heard rumours that part of the initial trade talks to have oil trading in US dollars and to get certain deals made in the middle east that the US had agreed to never tap into it's own sources...

Probably just the stuff that conspiracy theories are made of but you never know. The US does have more than enough to power itself for years to come without needing to import any.

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11-01-2008, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by StuartD

I heard rumours that part of the initial trade talks to have oil trading in US dollars and to get certain deals made in the middle east that the US had agreed to never tap into it's own sources...

Probably just the stuff that conspiracy theories are made of but you never know. The US does have more than enough to power itself for years to come without needing to import any.

Other theories say that we use foreign oil as opposed to ours so that when they run out, we still have our own supply. Seems to make sense if you think about resource management...

We need to get off the oil tit either way... now that prices have dropped back to 2007 prices again nobody seems to care. Wait until the next flare up and they will be throwing a hissy fit again. Short memories...

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11-01-2008, 09:06 AM

i have no problems with them drilling in alaska

we need to get rid of that hick state as soon as we can may as well let the rest of the country benefit from its destruction $0.02

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11-01-2008, 09:22 AM

The U.S. Senate approved the purchase of Alaska from the Russian Empire on March 30, 1867, for $7.2 million at 2 cents per acre, about 5 cents per hectare. When adjusted for inflation, the total sum paid equates to approximately $360 million in 2008 dollars.
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11-01-2008, 09:28 AM

why spend the money and ruin the environment when there are better less destructive ways to run your car.

but lets ignore that simple gem for now, lets say there were no alternative fuels and we had to use oil.

If there were no oil left except alaska, then i could understand the dilema , but theres lots of oil in places that arent as pristine as alaska, so why bother. As one of the least molested states in america theres alot more money to be made with other things.

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11-01-2008, 09:39 AM

I agree with T. Boone Pickens. Drill all you want but it won't solve the problem.

The US consumes 15 million barrels a day yet produces only 5 million a day. The Saudis produce 9 million barrels a day. Can we outproduce the Saudis? Doubt it. Even if we added their production on top of our current production it leaves us 1 million barrels short. That's today. Think 20 years from now when the drilling is done, the pipelines are built, the refineries are upgraded and built. All that money spent, the US now produces 15 million barrels a day...YAY! Whoops, we're using 30 million a day now. Damn!

I also agree with Sly that "We need to get off the oil tit either way...".

Pickens is trying to sell the same idea. Natural gas for one. Clean and abundant in the US. Instead of spending money searching and drilling for oil invest in converting all big rigs to natural gas. Trucks use 1/4 of the fuel burned in the US daily. Think of the jobs created just from the conversion.

Then he suggests wind as a viable alternative for energy generation. He believes in wind so much the guy is investing $10 billion in it. When his farm is complete it will provide electricty to over 1 million homes and businesses. As long as the wind keeps blowin'. Again, more jobs.

There are tons of soultions out there. Pickens has some good ideas. The best part of which are, they're environmentally sound, they create jobs and they look at the long term solution.

Finally, I was stationed in Alaska for 3 years. Beautiful place and if you've never been I highly recommend you visit. As for drilling...go for it. The environment will be fine, I just feel it's a waste of time and money. There are better ways.

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11-01-2008, 10:46 AM

an interesting link about ANWR...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/anwr.asp
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11-01-2008, 11:57 AM

FACT: Alaskan Oil Regions including ANWR would only produce 3% of American Oil once fully tapped and producing after 10 years. 3% is big sure... But is 3% worth ruining the Wild Life Refuge? I do not think so.

For a Govenor of Alaska to step in and want to drill tin ANWR is political suicide. Palin was a 1 term Govenor for sure.

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11-01-2008, 12:02 PM

Its not going to help our government or our oil prices, thats why.

The oil from Alaska, where do you think thats going to go? To Americans? No, its going to be sold by Exxon on the world oil market. Its not enough of a supply to changes world oil prices. If you own stock in major oil companies, you should be for drilling in Alaska. If you dont give me one good reason?
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11-01-2008, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by clickhappy

That is fucking ridiculous. We have all this oil on our own land, and we cant access it because of wildlife in Alsaska? Alaska is way-the-fuck over there, who cares?
We're going to have high gas prices and shoot ourselves in the foot so that a couple of deer and chipmunks wont have to move to a different area of the forest? And we give money to the middle east who then turns around and tries to kill us?

Other countries are laughing at us for being so pusified.
I think Sarah Palin is right. Drill baby drill.

I have no problem with the US dumping all it's trash in your backyard. What is the fucking problem. We can also us it as a sewer too, who would know the difference as you are a pile of shit anyway.

You also might want to look at where the oil they are drilling for is going. It ain't the good ol' usa. It goes to the highest bidder.
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11-01-2008, 12:06 PM

Look at photos of where they want to drill. it is nothing to look at or get excited about. Might as well save New mexico as well. Big ugly empty tracts of land that no one wants are pretty ideal for oil rigs in my mind.

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11-01-2008, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by collegeboobies

Its not going to help our government or our oil prices, thats why.

The oil from Alaska, where do you think thats going to go? To Americans? No, its going to be sold by Exxon on the world oil market. Its not enough of a supply to changes world oil prices. If you own stock in major oil companies, you should be for drilling in Alaska. If you dont give me one good reason?

land rent, jobs, more supply equals lower prices, more revenue for big oil equals more taxes, less control in foreign hands... I am sure there are more.
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11-01-2008, 12:11 PM

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Finally, I was stationed in Alaska for 3 years. Beautiful place and if you've never been I highly recommend you visit.

i'm planning a heliboarding trip there for next year (Valdez)... i can't wait.

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11-01-2008, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by slapass

Look at photos of where they want to drill. it is nothing to look at or get excited about. Might as well save New mexico as well. Big ugly empty tracts of land that no one wants are pretty ideal for oil rigs in my mind.

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sorry you never got to experience Alaska and what it really has to offer...
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11-01-2008, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by quiet

i'm planning a heliboarding trip there for next year (Valdez)... i can't wait.

Totally not near the area being discussed. The oil reserve area is 120 miles from the closest town or village. You are in the pretty southern mountainaous part. This is the ugly tundra northern part.
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11-01-2008, 12:25 PM

who needs wildlife ... LOL fuckem

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11-01-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday

sorry you never got to experience Alaska and what it really has to offer...

You went here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...E2%80%93Alaska

"Alaska is the largest state in the United States in land area at 570,380 square miles (1,477,277 km2), more than twice as large as Texas"

yet no one says we should not drill in Texas or any other state for that matter.
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11-01-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by slapass

Look at photos of where they want to drill. it is nothing to look at or get excited about. Might as well save New mexico as well. Big ugly empty tracts of land that no one wants are pretty ideal for oil rigs in my mind.

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You actually think it is because of the oil rigs.
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11-01-2008, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by AlienQ

FACT: Alaskan Oil Regions including ANWR would only produce 3% of American Oil once fully tapped and producing after 10 years. 3% is big sure... But is 3% worth ruining the Wild Life Refuge? I do not think so.

For a Govenor of Alaska to step in and want to drill tin ANWR is political suicide. Palin was a 1 term Govenor for sure.

It is just a few acres as I recall. A virtual blip on the radar.
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11-01-2008, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by baddog

It is just a few acres as I recall. A virtual blip on the radar.

"The reserved area in Alaska where ANWAR is located is One Million Nine Hundred Thousand acres."

If you think they are just gonna drill in one area, you are even dumber than I think you are, and I think you are a complete idiot.
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11-01-2008, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Sly

Other theories say that we use foreign oil as opposed to ours so that when they run out, we still have our own supply.

that would take like 70 years for them to run out
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11-01-2008, 01:48 PM

You should live in South Louisiana and see what the drilling has done to this place.

fuck your drilling and cheap gas propaganda, its all bad news.

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its not like petro is the only thing that makes energy... gimme a break.

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11-01-2008, 01:56 PM

Why do any more drilling in the US at all? Why are so many people so fucking stupid... How much would all the new drilling actually supply the US in 10 YEARS? 5% total maybe? Spending all that money and time on something that gets depleted? Imagine the type of savings could be made in 10 years if money was thrown into increasing the efficiency of vehicles.. switching to alternate fuels.. 10 years is a fuck of a long time when it comes to technology advancements... Not to mention alternate fuels..
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11-01-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by Tempest

Why do any more drilling in the US at all? Why are so many people so fucking stupid... How much would all the new drilling actually supply the US in 10 YEARS? 5% total maybe? Spending all that money and time on something that gets depleted? Imagine the type of savings could be made in 10 years if money was thrown into increasing the efficiency of vehicles.. switching to alternate fuels.. 10 years is a fuck of a long time when it comes to technology advancements... Not to mention alternate fuels..

Well said tempest.

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11-01-2008, 04:06 PM

I thought it had to do with the cost of extracting it, its much cheaper to do it from the desserts (iraq) than in Alaska?
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11-01-2008, 04:25 PM

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I thought it had to do with the cost of extracting it, its much cheaper to do it from the desserts (iraq) than in Alaska?
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11-01-2008, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Tempest

Why do any more drilling in the US at all? Why are so many people so fucking stupid... How much would all the new drilling actually supply the US in 10 YEARS? 5% total maybe? Spending all that money and time on something that gets depleted? Imagine the type of savings could be made in 10 years if money was thrown into increasing the efficiency of vehicles.. switching to alternate fuels.. 10 years is a fuck of a long time when it comes to technology advancements... Not to mention alternate fuels..

This is one of those issues that I see the exact opposite of you and can't see why you don't see it my way. Weird huh? Why drill anywhere? The money invested in drilling is returned and more as profit. So not sure what you mean by the that.

There are companies working on more efficient vehicles and alt fuels now. It is not a zero sum game. We can do both.
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11-01-2008, 04:32 PM

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I thought it had to do with the cost of extracting it, its much cheaper to do it from the desserts (iraq) than in Alaska?
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I think you are thinking of the tar oil fields.
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11-01-2008, 04:38 PM

Why do americans think that oil drilled ( extracted ) from Alaska is going to go to them ???

And if it does, why would they think that they are going to get it way cheaper ????

OIL is a business, a big and DIRTY business with DIRTY oil men in it ...

Do you really think they care about your sorry ass... ?

You expect them to " distribute the wealth " ....

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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11-01-2008, 05:12 PM

Replace cars and roads with a high speed electromagnetic rail system that extends right up to your house.

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11-01-2008, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by clickhappy

That is fucking ridiculous. We have all this oil on our own land, and we cant access it because of wildlife in Alsaska? Alaska is way-the-fuck over there, who cares?
We're going to have high gas prices and shoot ourselves in the foot so that a couple of deer and chipmunks wont have to move to a different area of the forest? And we give money to the middle east who then turns around and tries to kill us?

Other countries are laughing at us for being so pusified.
I think Sarah Palin is right. Drill baby drill.

YOU=REATRD Ok even if we drilled everywhere in the US and got every single drop we only have 3% of the world's oil. We use 25% of the worlds oil. Do the fucking math idiot.

If we could suck all the oil out of ANWAR at once and used that for out oil it would last 15 months. Yep that's it, 15 month supply, that's all. And that's IF there is as much oil as neo-cons say there is up there.

Anyone that think we can drill ourselves out of this problem is an idiot. Anyone that thinks drilling will solved even 25% of the problem is an idiot. Fact is if lazy fuck would spend $1 ona tire gauge and use the FREE air most gas stations supply and keep their tires properly inflated we would save MORE oil every day than can be drilled from ANWAR. This is FACT and it CAN NOT be DENIED. So my question is why you lazy fucks REFUSE to even try to do it? I get a lugh out of lazy fucking idiots bitching about gas prices when poor tire pressure and lousy maintance( if any at all ) and lousy driving practices costs them 50 cents a gallon.
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11-01-2008, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Sly

Other theories say that we use foreign oil as opposed to ours so that when they run out, we still have our own supply. Seems to make sense if you think about resource management...

We need to get off the oil tit either way... now that prices have dropped back to 2007 prices again nobody seems to care. Wait until the next flare up and they will be throwing a hissy fit again. Short memories...

imagine if what you say is true that if they run out, but the US still has there's who do you think will be the primary target of MANY? Now the US spend all of its time and money trying to protect itself on a daily basis. In the long run that plan is not a smart one IF true. by the time they run out of oil the US will be in an even bigger debt and have even less $ while thos oil countries will have all the $ that they want at their disposal which will make the US and extremely easy target. Again, this is assuming that the theory that you mentioned is in fact true and this is also just my opinion.

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11-01-2008, 05:52 PM

I'd rather pay a few extra bucks to fill up my tank if it means we save the environment. As someone mentioned, we've virtually destroyed the gulf coast. There are dead areas of the ocean where nothing lives, nothing at all.

Get some new alternative energy sources and get some cars on the road that are actually efficient.
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11-01-2008, 05:53 PM

Because we need that oil as a military reserve for the coming wars with asia.

In the slow wars of the future, when we are all fighting to the death over the last oil, the last water, and the last topsoil, that oil is the energy reserve that will let us hold off the super-populations of asia.

Much smarter to buy it on the world market, and much smarter still to start moving to the post-oil economy and technology.
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11-01-2008, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta

Why do americans think that oil drilled ( extracted ) from Alaska is going to go to them ???

And if it does, why would they think that they are going to get it way cheaper ????

OIL is a business, a big and DIRTY business with DIRTY oil men in it ...

Do you really think they care about your sorry ass... ?

You expect them to " distribute the wealth " ....

Um dude, Alaska is in the US so it is domestic production.
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11-01-2008, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by slapass

Um dude, Alaska is in the US so it is domestic production.

Um dude, Alberta is in Canada so it is domestic production ... sold to the USA ....

You obviously do not have the intellect to understand the big oil picture :

Money Talks ....

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

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11-01-2008, 06:46 PM

Originally posted by directfiesta

Um dude, Alberta is in Canada so it is domestic production ... sold to the USA ....

You obviously do not have the intellect to understand the big oil picture :

Money Talks ....

which is pretty stupid considering we sell OUR oil to the US and buy it back from them at an even higher price. This is why the price at our pumps is more.

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11-01-2008, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by Yngwie

which is pretty stupid considering we sell OUR oil to the US and buy it back from them at an even higher price. This is why the price at our pumps is more.

Worse:

Canada imports more than half of the crude oil it needs. We purchase around 55 per cent of our oil from countries such as Algeria, Saudi Arabia and Venezuela. We are also turning increasingly toward new sources including Russian and African producers. Canadians should question whether we can count on those suppliers for a steady supply of oil.
http://www.canadians.org/energy/issu...adian_oil.html

Makes the point of the guy that thinks that oil in Alaska extracted by Exxon will stay in the US and will be cheaper ....

I know that Asspimple is stoopid ... As he says, it is a FACT !

But I can't figure out how he can breathe or type , at the same time ....
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11-01-2008, 06:56 PM

we have get off oil.there is no question. Better to deal with it now or wait in 20 yrs when it will be really bad.
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11-01-2008, 07:01 PM

Supply is controlled by OPEC. If drilling in Alaska produced any significant amount of oil to flood the world market, OPEC would just cut production by that much to negate any effect on price.

THINK ABOUT IT!!! Why would a company fight for something that would LOWER THEIR PROFITS!!!!! If drilling in Alaska would really reduce oil prices, Exxon and all the other companies would be totally against it.

As for T. Boone Pickens. You have to see through his nonsense. He knows electricity is a totally gamed system now. He wants grants and tax breaks so he can build wind farms for free, then in the end you all will be paying the same for electricity you do now, the only difference is T. Boone Pickens will be producing it for free from wind.

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