Peter Schiff Predicts Crisis - Mid 2006

[Vendot]

Hey, it wasnt a long time before things took off but it was long enough before hand to get ridiculed by the other guy........ well worth seeing this.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Lfasc...eature=related

[gornyhuy]

Smart dude! Its scary accurate.

[Vendot]

Thats the way it is always is though.... you get a few smart people speaking up like Schiff, Roubini, Krugman, Rogers, Soros etc and everyone else rubbishing everything they said till it happens

Schiff is now predicting a rally in a dollar (a false rally) which is happening, followed by a crashing of the dollar.

[Kudles]

Kinda scary

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Vendot

Schiff is now predicting a rally in a dollar (a false rally) which is happening, followed by a crashing of the dollar.

Jim Rogers predicted that actually. Schiff is surprised by how strong the dollar has been lately. What Schiff really missed the boat on is how fucked Europe is. His clients with large European exposure are going to be livid...

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Jim Rogers predicted that actually.

Sorry, I stand corrected but Schiff was right about the key elements of whats happened...... and you gotta love how he's owned that smug guy over how the crisis played out.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Vendot

Sorry, I stand corrected but Schiff was right about the key elements of whats happened...... and you gotta love how he's owned that smug guy over how the crisis played out.

Yeah, Schiff is great. I agree.

[Doctor Dre]

Not Your Grandfather’s Depression


The current stock market crash has spurred a vital national debate about the causes and catalysts of the Great Depression. The dominant school of thought believes that the stubborn refusal of then president Herbert Hoover to intervene after the stock market crash of 1929, and his preference for free market solutions, led directly to the ensuing decade-long catastrophe. Through this lens, our leaders assure us that the most recent raft of government measures will prevent another episode of bread lines, Hoovervilles and pencil salesmen. As usual they have it completely wrong. In my view, the Depression was created precisely because Hoover followed the path that our government is now taking.

When the stock market bubble of the Roaring Twenties (which was created as a result of the loose monetary policy of the newly created Federal Reserve) finally popped, Hoover would not allow market forces to correct the imbalances. His policies were aimed at propping up unsound businesses, artificially supporting prices, particularly wages, and providing Federal funds for public works projects. These moves went well beyond the progressive reforms of Teddy Roosevelt, and established Hoover as the most interventionist president ever up to that point. In fact, much of what eventually became the New Deal had its roots in Hoover’s policies.

However, at the time, there were those who recommended a different course. Andrew Mellon, the long-serving Secretary of the Treasury whom Hoover had inherited from the prior two Republican Administrations, was labeled by Hoover as a “leave it alone isolationist” who wanted to “liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmers, and liquidate real estate.” Hoover would have none of it. In fact, during his nomination speech for a potential second term, Hoover bragged “We determined that we would not follow the advice of the bitter liquidationists and see the whole body of debtors of the United States brought to bankruptcy and the savings of our people brought to destruction.”

Hoover chose to ignore the sound advice of his Treasury Secretary (in contrast to today where the current Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is actually leading the charge over the cliff) and instead used every tool at his disposal to “fix” the problem. As a result, rather than allowing a recession to run its course, with healthy and rapid liquidations of the mal-investments built up during the boom, Hoover inadvertently created what became the Great Depression.

When Roosevelt took office he continued the same failed policies only on a grander scale. The magnitude and the idiocy of many New Deal programs, such as the wage and price setting National Recovery Administration (NRA), compounded the problems. So while Mellon’s advice would have caused a sharp but relatively brief economic downturn (which occurred after the Panic of 1907, for example), the Depression plodded on for nearly a decade until the country began gearing up for the Second World War.

In an amazing feat of revisionist history, somehow Hoover’s interventionist policies have been completely forgotten. It is taken as fundamental that his inaction led to the Depression and Roosevelt’s “heroics” got us out. Unfortunately, since we have learned nothing from history, we are about to repeat the very mistakes that lead to the most dire economic circumstance of the last century.

A major difference however, is that the structure of the U.S economy today is far weaker than it was in the fall of 1929. Years of reckless consumer borrowing and spending, and enormous trade and budget deficits have resulted in a hollowed out industrial base and an unmanageable mountain of debt owed to foreign creditors. Instead of the support of a strong currency backed by gold, the public now must deal with a modern Fed free to print as much money as politicians want. So rather than getting the benefits of falling consumer prices (as happened during the Depression), consumers today will contend with much higher consumer prices, even as the economy contracts.

With Barack Obama now waiting in the wings to conjure a newer New Deal, far larger than even FDR could have imagined, and at a time when we cannot even afford the old one, this will not be your grandfather’s Depression. It may be much worse.

on his website

[aico]

So where's the other idiot (Art Laffer, appropriately named) and the woman telling him how crazy he is now? Someone should deliver this video to their doorsteps.

[- Jesus Christ -]

Originally Posted by aico

So where's the other idiot

A Reaganite

EDIT: My bad, I thought you said "who". He was recently on real time with bill Maher... he has changed his tune slightly. :P

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

A Reaganite

EDIT: My bad, I thought you said "who". He was recently on real time with bill Maher... he has changed his tune slightly. :P

Bill Maher brings it up here:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=z3WjgKUf-kA

[IllTestYourGirls]

He was giving our speeches to realtors and in great detail about what was happening in 2006. Here is part1 of 8

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6G3Qefbt0n4

If you are not listening to him now you are a fool.

[aico]

Originally Posted by - Jesus Christ -

A Reaganite

EDIT: My bad, I thought you said "who". He was recently on real time with bill Maher... he has changed his tune slightly. :P

It did say "who" for a short period of time.

[pigman]

I would like to see them have this discussion today.

[Vendot]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

He was giving our speeches to realtors and in great detail about what was happening in 2006. Here is part1 of 8

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6G3Qefbt0n4

If you are not listening to him now you are a fool.

Damn straight....... I just saw all 6 parts. Smart guy.