Mr.Fiction

Regardless of which party you belong to, or how your vote otherwise, it would be best to keep a balance of power in our government. Voting for a Democrat in your Senate race today is a good idea.

The reason there are three branches of government is so that they check each other. If Republicans take over the senate there will be no check.

If you do decide vote Republican, I hope A-sh-hahahahaha arrests you before he does those smart enough to see the big picture.

Mr.Fiction

For both of you that still think Bush is a great president, and Republicans are going to save you from the mean scary terrorists, read this article. You may be scared of terrorists, but you might be more scared to find out that Bush wants to take away your weed:

Bush's reefer madness

Terrified that an increasingly pot-tolerant America will spell the end of their moral crusade, the president's anti-drug warriors are making a last stand over marijuana.

Nov. 5, 2002 | The new front in the nation's drug war came into sharp focus at 7 a.m. on Sept. 5, when loud shouts and stomping woke Valerie Corral at her home north of Santa Cruz, Calif. Suspecting that the intruders weren't ordinary burglars, she snuck out a back entrance and walked around to her front door to tell them to leave. When she opened the door, stunned federal agents in flak jackets trained M-16s on the 50-year-old homeowner. When she asked to see a search warrant, the officers screamed at her to get down. They pushed her to her knees, then forced her to lie face down on the floor. With her hands handcuffed behind her back, an officer pressed his rifle muzzle to the back of her head.

Valerie Corral tried explaining to the agents (there were about 30) that she and her husband, Michael, 53, ran Wo/Men's Alliance for Medical Marijuana, a legal cooperative in California that has grown the drug for 250 terminally ill and sick patients, many with cancer or AIDS, for almost nine years. Twenty-two of their clients have died in the past 12 months -- but to the officers from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration, that didn't matter. The DEA took Valerie, still in green silk pajamas, and Michael to a federal detention center in San Jose. Under the Federal Controlled Substances Act, marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug -- dangerous and with no possible medicinal value -- right up there with heroin. Not only did they uproot and seize 167 marijuana plants, but they also confiscated the co-op's patient list.

"We do not target drug users," insists Will Glaspy, a DEA spokesman in Washington. "We target drug traffickers. There is no such term as 'medical marijuana,' except as created by the marijuana lobby."

In California and other states -- including three that will feature marijuana initiatives on Tuesday's ballots -- the marijuana lobby happens to be the voters.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...war/index.html

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IMHO....This "war on drugs" is a total failure and another example of wasting tax payer money. The time and resources spent to "target drug traffickers" can be much better served elsewhere like education and the war on terrorism. Legalizing Marijuana with distribution methods set in place like Nevada is voting on today would go a long way in getting rid of the "Traffickers" along with the crime and violence which breeds within a black market.

IMHO...This comes down to 2 issues.

1) Marijuana should not be rated as a schedule 1 narcotic when cocaine is a schedule 2 and Marinol(TM) the government produced synthetic form of THC is schedule 3?

2) States rights for those states which vote on the issue to legalize use especially those states in which marijuana use must be prescribed and/or recommended by a health care provider and providers are working with their local and state officials to comply with all state laws.

However you feel about this issue and others important to you and your family...Don't forget to VOTE TODAY!!!

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Sunshine McGillicutty

The demo's sometimes tend toward bad fiscal policies, higher taxes etc. but the most important thing in this election is the Federal Judiciary and the Supreme Court.

If the Repubs win control of the Senate there will be no way to stop the Bush from stacking the Judiciary with religious fundamentalists, as he has been trying to do for the last 2 years.

Its important to remember that moderate and liberal Judges have been responsible for striking down unconstitutional attempts at regulating the internet, banning anything considered by religious nuts to be 'obscene', upholding civil liberties for unpopular minorities (like us..), supporting reproductive freedom for women, and a whole host of other stuff we now take for granted.

You might not like some of the borderline socialist democrats, but giving religious fundamentalists effective control of all three branches of government will be infinitely worse in the long run.

DX

fuck em all. stay home. no matter who wins, you lose.

one side wants to take all my money and give it to people that
don't have the slightest desire to get off their asses and fend for themselves.

the other wants to take away all my freedoms, get in my bedroom, and control what I watch or listen to.

they're all a bunch of completely useless hypocrites.

Sunshine McGillicutty

Do me a favor and refrain from reproducing. We don't need any more apathetic morons fucking up the democratic process in this country.

Honeyslut

I would like to see HOW Governor Davis is going to help this state for the next 4 years !

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DX

Nice job resorting to insults instead of trying to dispute my points.

Sunshine McGillicutty

California Governor is one race where I would have seriously considered voting Republican. Unfortunately the fact that Simon is virulently anti-gay, and anti-abortion prohibits me.

Richard Riordan would have kicked Davis' ass.

ColKurtz

I agree with DX. Either way nothing ever really gets done. And with only two parties there is undesireable groups on BOTH sides.

I believe in conservative politics. Socialistic programs just dont work in this country because they aren't run efficently. So essentially democrats want more and more of my money to put in inefficent programs. Its a waste.

Gemini

Dem or Independent all the way. Whats a repub?!?!

Sunshine McGillicutty

You don't have any points worth disputing, but if you insist..

"one side wants to take all my money and give it to people that
don't have the slightest desire to get off their asses and fend for themselves."

Fact is that state welfare funding accounts for a minute portion of all the taxes you pay. The only merit your position has, if it can be called merit, is that lying to people about how all their money is going to indigents is effective in whipping a certain portion of the electorate.. the mindless, knee jerk idiots.. into going out and voting. Pathetic.

But lets assume that the democrats did want to create a country where a large percetange of your taxes goes to funding various social welfare programs. This would be roughly on the same level as countries like Canada and many European countries like Sweden and England.

Would you rather live in a mildly (by European standards) socialist state, or one in which the US version of the Taliban.. and they are just as bad in their own way.. controls every aspect of your life and uses your tax money to fund religious proselytization in schools, "faith based" programs where the main goal is to convert people, a general climate of hatred towards non-believers, pagans, gays, and anyone who doesn't tow the fundie line.. and the like.

The choice comes down to this: Would you rather have social and intellectual freedom while maybe having to pay for some fiscal programs you disagree with... or enjoy slightly more fiscal freedom while living in a state run by religious facists.

Its a no brainer for me.

DX

funny... your comment: "Unfortunately the fact that Simon is virulently anti-gay, and anti-abortion prohibits me. "
sounds a lot like it would be covered by my "the other wants to take away all my freedoms, get in my bedroom, and control what I watch or listen to. " point.

Sunshine McGillicutty

You are right about that, but my dispute was with your apathetic contention that neither option is better than the other.

dickblast

no points made, ur just a fucking idiot

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ColKurtz

Welfare might only account for such and such dollars but I look at the big picture.

Problem in this country is the destruction of the family and lack of personal responsiblity. Mothers who have multiple children out of wedlock and are encouraged to have more. Men who get multiple girls pregnant and contribute nothing to the upbrining of the kid, financially or otherwise.

Now what happens with those kids. Chances are they will be on some form of public assitance when they grow up. Chances are the girls will get pregnant at an early age. Chances are the boys will get some girls pregnant.

Chances are they will get into some problems with the law. Who pays for more cops, who pays for public defenders, who pays for the cost of running a prison, the taxpayers.

And its a cycle that keeps going and going.


Until people are held accountable, socialism cant work.

dickblast

teen pregnancy is down, teen drug use is down, teen smoking is down

however that doesnt mean kids are going to vote in record numbers, even tho a couple states do have under-20 state reps now.

gen Y and younger represent the next big baby boom amplified, so while the biggest group in the US under the poverty line will be children well have the most buying power and certainly the most voting power. only thing we have 2 wait and see is if the MTV and advertising generation uses all this media connectivity to get out there and make a difference or just to keep buying overpriced crap.

too easy 2 say 'kids r gonna go out get drugged up get arrested get knocked up' w/o looking at the bigger picture

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ColKurtz

Not really sure what your talking about. I was just giving an example of why sociallism dosent work in this country.

DX

Please tell me.... How is either REALLY better or any different than the other?

Sunshine McGillicutty

The destruction of the '50's style nuclear family is not a bad thing. That institution only ever existed because women were forced into it by lack of reproductive control and employment opportunity. The "good old days" is a myth. They never existed, anywhere, at any point in history.

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Mothers who have multiple children out of wedlock and are encouraged to have more.

How many specific cases of mothers with multiple, out of wedlock welfare birth who have been encouraged to have more do you know of? This is largely just another boogeyman created by Repulicans (Reagan in this case..) to scare gullible people into voting for them.

Same thing with most of the rest of the problems you list. Democrats and liberals in San Francisco will today pass one of the toughest welfare laws in the nation. It takes away cash payments to single homeless and poor people and replaces it with vouchers for shelter, food and medical services. It is a myth, but a very skillfully propogated one, that only republicans want to solve these problems. Most democrats are perfectly willing to tighten up welfare systems and make people accountable for their actions.

There are a small group of radical homeless and welfare "advocates" who don't want these things, but they do not represent the majority of democrats, even very liberal democrats.

dickblast

ya but half of ur statement wasnt really correct so i was pointing out that the generation can be a positive element 4 change

as much as u monkeys try to berate Europe as being a mess almost all those countries have a better standard of living than the US. Canada has more unemployment than the US per capita but their ppl live better. hmmm ... must be that fucking SOCIALISM ruining their lives!

btw, just 2 clarify, there is no socialism in this country. our welfare system and other 'social' programs (public schools?) are such a joke no socialist nation would even consider them useful.

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ColKurtz

The thing euros and canadians dont understand is if they had the same problems as the usa, their sociallism would be a total failure.


"The destruction of the '50's style nuclear family is not a bad thing. That institution only ever existed because women were forced into it by lack of reproductive control and employment opportunity. The "good old days" is a myth. They never existed, anywhere, at any point in history. "

I think this whole statement is utter bullshit. A family where one parent works and makes enough money, and the other parent stays home and make sure the kid gets off to school, does their homework, stays out of trouble, is given attention, makes sure they are fed properly IS the model for success. I dont care what anyone says.

dickblast

chicken or the egg?

do we have the same problems because crime and poverty are rampant in our nation, becuz we dont have health care, etc etc?

we r a nation run by corporations and our gov't will do everything 2 keep it that way. we want to DEregulate our economy becuz noone else does it so why shouldnt it work?! we r being set up to fail by the gov't and the corporate interests backing it becuz when we fail we can always go deeper into credit card debt (which is now of course as important as back taxes or child support) or work for a lower minimum wage etc.

the fact that having a good family is ur only DEFENSE against poverty, and that the gov't hangs u out to dry if u are one of the 60+ percent who get divorced or 14 million who lose their jobs 4 no reason ... isnt helping

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Sunshine McGillicutty

Why marry & have kids in the first place? Technology has freed us from the need to be slaves to our biology. The world is down to what, its last 6.5 billion people? lol

The vast majority of people make absolutely no contribution to society by breeding.

I saw a USA Today poll once which said that something like 65% of people who had actually raised kids either regretted having them in the first place, or had become ambivalent to their breeding decision.

I think people have as little a fundamental right to inflict their spawn upon the rest of society as they do whatever other mindless, hormone driven urges they may have.

The myth (mostly propogated by right wingers) that becoming a parent somehow enobles people has much more to do with the low income breeding problem in this country than Democrats.