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Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by LukieD

Are you serious? If you really wanted to get hold of someone you can. Post on boards they frequent/ask others for their icq etc.

And dropping an affiliate to 5% until they realise is clearly the best way to get their attention? I lol'd.

The affiliate was emailed 3 times.

HorseShit · 10-26-2008, 04:34 PM

bods sends a lot of sales I'm sure, bet it was nice getting a large % of those sales rather than canceling his account huh?

starpimps · 10-26-2008, 04:37 PM

looks like his account is deactivated now
"Partner account XXX has been deactivated"

that sucks..time to change your links

anyway..do you have a link to your tos annangel

Rorschach · 10-26-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention.

Thanks, you just made me piss my pants laughing.

I guess that's what happens when you get content trying to run a business.

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Your answer is very rude, impolite and confrontating... to sum it up : very bad public relations.

With all the affiliate programs out there, everybody who read that is definitly not going to use you in the future.

Why lowering the percentage to 5 % instead of just suspending the account ? it sounds like a very shady way to keep the affiliate sending sales while suspended.

If I sound rude in my initial reaction it is because this affiliate has been with us for a very long time. When the account was dropped I actually didn't realize right away who it was. The emails were sent out, and there were no replies back. We took the first step before suspension. This affiliate has all my contacts, emails, IMS, etc. He contacted me once on AIM, by the time I got back he wasn't on anymore, so I couldn't get a hold of him. After his initial message, he makes this post. How does that make me feel? Doing business for over 5 years, with thousands of affiliates. We take care of everyone. So to make it seems like we don't be creating a post like this, by an affiliate who has been around us, and knows us, for so long, is a bit backstabbing. So yea, maybe I was a bit impolite. Was this whole post really warranted?

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis

bods sends a lot of sales I'm sure, bet it was nice getting a large % of those sales rather than canceling his account huh?

Let's be clear. He sent about 3 sales, since this change was made. His account was only dropped for a short amount of time and was due to be suspended tomrrow, the first work day of the week. So let's not try to make it look like I tried to make a big scheme here.

Iron Fist · 10-26-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

So let's not try to make it look like I tried to make a big scheme here.

Your frustration is understandable, but let's consider the audience your addressing here

In other news, can you hit me up ICQ 889-8053? Want to get some promo material for your sites

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by starpimps

looks like his account is deactivated now
"Partner account XXX has been deactivated"

that sucks..time to change your links

anyway..do you have a link to your tos annangel

My terms are discussed every time I provide an affiliate with member's area access. Wether it be by ICQ or email. This affiliate, has been with us for a long time and should clearly know what we consider off limits. If an affiliate is using material from our cash program directly, then there is no way to violate terms. It is only the select few who contact me directly on a regular basis that get member's access to use content they choose, that I have the same speech with over and over.

tony286 · 10-26-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Does this really work? pics and vids are available all over the internet, the only thing that can't be reached is the paysite and fhg.

I thought the same thing once its out there its out there.

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I thought the same thing once its out there its out there.

It works to keep the models satisfied/ more comfortable/ safe and also to keep the model's family/ friends from going to their site. Pretty obvious.

rowan · 10-26-2008, 05:11 PM

Results 1 - 21 of about 132,000 for "ann angel"

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=...=Search+Images

These are mostly third party sites. I think that's the point BlackCrayon was trying to make.

ottyhotties · 10-26-2008, 05:15 PM

A shave is a shave -- you don't shave affiliates EVER. Are you now suspending his account because he took offense to your shaving him? That's bullshit. Thought suspension wasn't scheduled until tomorrow? I know Bods and he's honest as the day is long, so if you sent emails to him they weren't received.

Did you try contacting Bods on AIM (he is easily reached) because it seems to me after these 5 years you might have attempted other methods of communication too. I hope you refund his sales and straighten this out quickly. You have a good program and you produce high quality regularly updating websites. You should be an example in this industry of what to do, not an example of what not to do...

Btw, you should have a TOS because us small webmasters often get our promo from bigger sites because your last Ann Angel promo was mid August? Even us small webbies like to look fresh with the big boys and I could be in violation myself of these unposted TOS and not know it and get shaved.

Profits of Doom · 10-26-2008, 05:26 PM

I always love the argument that GFY isn't a support board for so and so program. You're absolutely right, it is a webmaster board, and if you do something that a webmaster considers shady or unethical they are going to discuss it on this board with other webmasters...

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ottyhotties

A shave is a shave -- you don't shave affiliates EVER. Are you now suspending his account because he took offense to your shaving him? That's bullshit. Thought suspension wasn't scheduled until tomorrow? I know Bods and he's honest as the day is long, so if you sent emails to him they weren't received.

Did you try contacting Bods on AIM (he is easily reached) because it seems to me after these 5 years you might have attempted other methods of communication too. I hope you refund his sales and straighten this out quickly. You have a good program and you produce high quality regularly updating websites. You should be an example in this industry of what to do, not an example of what not to do...

Btw, you should have a TOS because us small webmasters often get our promo from bigger sites because your last Ann Angel promo was mid August? Even us small webbies like to look fresh with the big boys and I could be in violation myself of these unposted TOS and not know it and get shaved.

There is no reason he did not receive 3 emails. We took this step first before issuing the drop. I suspended it now instead of tomorrow because I don't need it to be a bigger thing than it really is. So what is today, what is tomorrow?

Bods has been with us for a long time and I would think by now he clearly knows what not to use. If a webmaster is getting promo stuff from other sites that are violating terms, than chances are they won't read my terms. Let's keep in mind that this situation is in relation to a single webmaster who KNEW the terms and still violated them. Even after being notified.

Email is the single best way to get a hold of someone, from my own experience of over 5 years. It's difficult to get a hold of someone on AIM when they are not online since messages aren't sent through even if they're signed off, like on ICQ. Bods has his IM turned on at the moment, and my complaints have been sent to his IM, still without reply.

Not saying he is a bad guy, never did. What I said was that this post was completely unnecessary. Just look at the title of the thread. He is implying that I am not taking care of my affiliates, which is clearly not the case, when HE was the one in violation of some simple terms.

After Shock Media · 10-26-2008, 05:37 PM

Where at is your TOS?
Where in your "agreement" does it state your allowed to lower ones percentage for any reason? Especially when it says 50% of all sales and 50% of all re bills for life. *Though it does say they may earn up to 60%.
Also notice your advertisements state 50 - 75% payouts. However your Text link advertising now says 10% on all referrals. No paying 75% of all sales. You may again want to explain that too since there is no TOS. I figure one would and should already be expecting 75% of all sales at least right now with 50% rev share (fair assumption).
I am also curious where in your agreement, or at least email to new affiliates does it explain about the blocking or area's - no matter how small of a region?

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 05:55 PM

Resolution has been found between the parties which is a good thing. I wish that could happen more in this world. We both walked away without hard feelings and such.

TheSenator · 10-26-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bods4Mods

Resolution has been found between the parties which is a good thing. I wish that could happen more in this world. We both walked away without hard feelings and such.

What I say?

He's been around a long time.

Anyway, she sells period.

Show some love

After Shock Media · 10-26-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bods4Mods

Resolution has been found between the parties which is a good thing. I wish that could happen more in this world. We both walked away without hard feelings and such.

Ah nevermind...

Malicious Biz · 10-26-2008, 06:33 PM

what a crock of assshit.

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

what a crock of assshit.

Late for the party this time Mali.

On a side note your cousin from the great state of deliverance is missing - If you see rivetfan up there please send him my way. I have his banjo.

tony286 · 10-26-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

It works to keep the models satisfied/ more comfortable/ safe and also to keep the model's family/ friends from going to their site. Pretty obvious.

Pretty obvious? Once its on the web its on the web. Your site isnt the only place it winds up. If I closed my sites tomorrow the content would be still be all over the web forever.

ottyhotties · 10-26-2008, 06:48 PM

Well, glad to see everything worked out. The Digital Angel sites are some good websites. Get this, they update their websites! Still skip step 2 next time guys -- contact the problem affiliate, wait a couple days, and then suspend the affiliate account until it gets cleared up.

rowan · 10-26-2008, 06:58 PM

top notch

CIVMatt · 10-26-2008, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention.

-cut-

Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Just wow..

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-26-2008, 07:27 PM

Hi Guys.

Kard63 · 10-26-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP.

Lol her parents dont know yet.

camgirlshide · 10-26-2008, 07:46 PM

[QUOTE=Ann-Angelcom;14954626]

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. QUOTE]

I wonder what % of US traffic is NY & NJ

NYC is about 3% by itself based on wikipedia (8M/280M)

TheSenator · 10-26-2008, 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=camgirlshide;14955317]

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. QUOTE]

I wonder what % of US traffic is NY & NJ

NYC is about 3% by itself based on wikipedia (8M/280M)

They way they run their business is up to them. The world is bigger than the tri-state area. Either way I am still making sales.

Bods4Mods · 10-26-2008, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Retox Josh

Hi Guys.

Would you please stop changing names - jesus

stickyfingerz · 10-26-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kard63

Lol her parents dont know yet.

Yes family and friends are the normal reason to block a state.

seeric · 10-26-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of.

That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%.

This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

What terms were violated?

seeric · 10-26-2008, 08:04 PM

Nevermind.

Wagerboy · 10-26-2008, 08:12 PM

This thread was a real eye opener. Thanks

Jim_Gunn · 10-26-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Does this really work? pics and vids are available all over the internet, the only thing that can't be reached is the paysite and fhg.

Sound ridiculous to me that a site owner would try and tell his models they are protecting them by trying to block their home states from accessing the sites. Someone they know is going to end up seeing them online anyway on an affiliates site or elsewhere. I prefer to hire models that love porn and don't mind being seen all over. I was even able to pull this off back in the 90's when I filmed in NY & NJ. Hot girls are plentiful nowadays, no need to mislead them with the idea that a simple ip block will keep them anonymous. And cutting an affiliate's percentage down to 5% for any reason doesn't make sense either.

fris · 10-26-2008, 08:29 PM

too funny, 404 all NJ and NY traffic cause the model doesnt want people to know what she does.

You made the choice the day you wanted to be content.

bDok · 10-26-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

seriously!

I'm so sick of threads like these. People should come to the board after well documented accounts of trying to get in touch with the program, or contact with the program in question that is failing to come to resolution.

- Jesus Christ - · 10-26-2008, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bDok

I'm so sick of threads like these.

Are you joking?

This is what has always made GFY entertaining... or are you here for the pulp news copypastas and [pic] threads?

Hell, I originally found this board because I wanted to bitch at lensman about his PPC program way back in the day.

Sly · 10-26-2008, 09:34 PM

I'm guessing the 403 policy is only created to give the model some type of false hope? A surfer/family member is much more likely to find them listed on a site like The Hun or the thousands of others just like it then they would by clicking a pay site link.

Iron Fist · 10-26-2008, 09:39 PM

Yeah I don't know about blocking access to the main site, there's thousands of galleries remotely hosted on sites/blogs/forums/imagehosts everywhere, that the program doesn't have control over, so is IP blocking really going to protect the model from someone else seeing the content in the end? Probably not...

Seems like a lot of work for nothing.

Rorschach · 10-26-2008, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Yeah I don't know about blocking access to the main site, there's thousands of galleries remotely hosted on sites/blogs/forums/imagehosts everywhere, that the program doesn't have control over, so is IP blocking really going to protect the model from someone else seeing the content in the end? Probably not...

Seems like a lot of work for nothing.

Basically all they're guaranteeing is that the 1/8 th of the US population that lives in NY can't sign up, regardless how eager they might be after having seen the content on a third party site.

TheSenator · 10-26-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Sound ridiculous to me that a site owner would try and tell his models they are protecting them by trying to block their home states from accessing the sites. Someone they know is going to end up seeing them online anyway on an affiliates site or elsewhere. I prefer to hire models that love porn and don't mind being seen all over. I was even able to pull this off back in the 90's when I filmed in NY & NJ. Hot girls are plentiful nowadays, no need to mislead them with the idea that a simple ip block will keep them anonymous. And cutting an affiliate's percentage down to 5% for any reason doesn't make sense either.

You should just back off.....

I went threw a similar thing back in 1999-2001.

I don't think you know what you are talking about.

Ann-Angelcom · 10-26-2008, 10:38 PM

The Ip block was created at model's request. Since the block she hasn't been bothered by family or friends, they simply think the site is dead. This goes for all models. Sure they can find some content if they really search for it, but at least they won't be able to click on the site. If anything the girl now has the chance to say, ya I did it, but I don't do it anymore. Not like dad will keep searching the web for the pics. What was done is done and they can move on with their lives knowing the site "doesn't exist" anymore. This is not false hope nor is it a plot into luring models. I always explain clearly that her promo content on other sites won't be blocked. They understand that, but can sleep better at night knowing the site is blocked. If that makes them happy, I am happy to do it for them! Nothing wrong with keeping models happy.

pocketkangaroo · 10-26-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP.

I've honestly never heard this done by any program ever. It seems if you don't want people to see you nude, you don't model nude. That's a big chunk of traffic and sales you give up and it'd be silly for anyone to promote.

Mutt · 10-27-2008, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I've honestly never heard this done by any program ever. It seems if you don't want people to see you nude, you don't model nude. That's a big chunk of traffic and sales you give up and it'd be silly for anyone to promote.

it's done on lots of solo girl sites - it doesn't work, geo-IP is at best 75% accurate, but if it makes the model feel better there's nothing wrong with it. it's just unfortunate in this case it's a huge state like NY/NJ rather than an Iowa or South Carolina.

i would not do it for a girl from a large state - if i did i'd let affiliates know.

After Shock Media · 10-27-2008, 02:00 AM

Either way it is yours to run how you want. No matter what everything should be listed in plain sight via a terms of service so affiliates have that information to make their own choice before signing up. Same goes for how you handle violations, what content is usable and where.
Then would you please explain the signature. It clearly "now paying 75% of all sales".

Ann-Angelcom · 10-27-2008, 02:02 AM

Fact is sales are as strong as ever, and this has not adversely affected us in ANY WAY. Therefore I am happy to do it for any of my girls if it helps them sleep better at night. I think affiliates of our sites will vouch for this. If I have to give up 2-5 sales a month from NY as opposed to the 50 per day a site gets, it's all worth it to keep a model happy.

Ann-Angelcom · 10-27-2008, 02:06 AM

The signature is also accurate. Some affiliates who have contacted me who send larger amounts of traffic/ sales, will get bumped to 75% for a decided period of time as a reward for their efforts. We have also run promos in the past where everyone received 75% for a period of time. We will most likely do it again this Christmas for all affiliates.

After Shock Media · 10-27-2008, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Ann-Angelcom

The signature is also accurate. Some affiliates who have contacted me who send larger amounts of traffic/ sales, will get bumped to 75% for a decided period of time as a reward for their efforts. We have also run promos in the past where everyone received 75% for a period of time. We will most likely do it again this Christmas for all affiliates.

Perhaps it should then read up to 75% instead of how it currently reads.
You still have given tons of valid reasons to yourself and your business as to why you block an area, yet you have not given a single one as to why not just have a clear TOS that explains such that affiliates can read before they sign up.

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-27-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

it's done on lots of solo girl sites - it doesn't work, geo-IP is at best 75% accurate, but if it makes the model feel better there's nothing wrong with it. it's just unfortunate in this case it's a huge state like NY/NJ rather than an Iowa or South Carolina.

i would not do it for a girl from a large state - if i did i'd let affiliates know.

Hey, don't go doing that now!

timlover · 10-27-2008, 09:35 AM

I can understand where people are coming from on both sides of this issue, but you really shouldn't use money/sales as a matter of leverage in disputes between a customer and the agent. Infact, in the real world thats pretty much considered theft.

If you don't pay your electric bill or cable bill, the company doesn't turn off half your service or readjust your rate to get your attention. If they mail you and you don't get your letters....or you don't respond...it gets suspended.

Sometimes good intentions don't always make for good business practices.

probably just a learning lesson for both parties.

10-26-2008, 04:37 PM	#53
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10-26-2008, 05:26 PM	#63
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10-26-2008, 05:37 PM	#65
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Where at is your TOS? Where in your "agreement" does it state your allowed to lower ones percentage for any reason? Especially when it says 50% of all sales and 50% of all re bills for life. *Though it does say they may earn up to 60%. Also notice your advertisements state 50 - 75% payouts. However your Text link advertising now says 10% on all referrals. No paying 75% of all sales. You may again want to explain that too since there is no TOS. I figure one would and should already be expecting 75% of all sales at least right now with 50% rev share (fair assumption). I am also curious where in your agreement, or at least email to new affiliates does it explain about the blocking or area's - no matter how small of a region? __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

10-26-2008, 05:55 PM	#66
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10-26-2008, 07:46 PM	#77
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10-26-2008, 04:34 PM	#52
HorseShit Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,513	bods sends a lot of sales I'm sure, bet it was nice getting a large % of those sales rather than canceling his account huh?

10-26-2008, 05:11 PM	#61
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Results 1 - 21 of about 132,000 for "ann angel" http://images.google.com/images?gbv=...=Search+Images These are mostly third party sites. I think that's the point BlackCrayon was trying to make.

10-26-2008, 05:15 PM	#62
ottyhotties Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: MI Posts: 188	A shave is a shave -- you don't shave affiliates EVER. Are you now suspending his account because he took offense to your shaving him? That's bullshit. Thought suspension wasn't scheduled until tomorrow? I know Bods and he's honest as the day is long, so if you sent emails to him they weren't received. Did you try contacting Bods on AIM (he is easily reached) because it seems to me after these 5 years you might have attempted other methods of communication too. I hope you refund his sales and straighten this out quickly. You have a good program and you produce high quality regularly updating websites. You should be an example in this industry of what to do, not an example of what not to do... Btw, you should have a TOS because us small webmasters often get our promo from bigger sites because your last Ann Angel promo was mid August? Even us small webbies like to look fresh with the big boys and I could be in violation myself of these unposted TOS and not know it and get shaved.

10-26-2008, 06:33 PM	#69
Malicious Biz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Put Shoe On Head Plz Posts: 4,575	what a crock of assshit.

10-26-2008, 06:48 PM	#72
ottyhotties Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Location: MI Posts: 188	Well, glad to see everything worked out. The Digital Angel sites are some good websites. Get this, they update their websites! Still skip step 2 next time guys -- contact the problem affiliate, wait a couple days, and then suspend the affiliate account until it gets cleared up.

10-26-2008, 06:58 PM	#73
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	top notch

10-26-2008, 07:27 PM	#75
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10-26-2008, 08:04 PM	#82
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	Nevermind.

10-26-2008, 08:12 PM	#83
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10-26-2008, 08:29 PM	#85
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10-26-2008, 09:34 PM	#88
Sly Let's do some business! Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 31,339	I'm guessing the 403 policy is only created to give the model some type of false hope? A surfer/family member is much more likely to find them listed on a site like The Hun or the thousands of others just like it then they would by clicking a pay site link. __________________ Vacares - Web Hosting, Domains, O365, Security & More - Paxum and BTC Accepted Windows VPS now available Great for TSS, Nifty Stats, remote work, virtual assistants, etc. Click here for more details.

10-26-2008, 09:39 PM	#89
Iron Fist Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 23,400	Yeah I don't know about blocking access to the main site, there's thousands of galleries remotely hosted on sites/blogs/forums/imagehosts everywhere, that the program doesn't have control over, so is IP blocking really going to protect the model from someone else seeing the content in the end? Probably not... Seems like a lot of work for nothing. __________________ i like waffles

10-26-2008, 10:38 PM	#92
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	The Ip block was created at model's request. Since the block she hasn't been bothered by family or friends, they simply think the site is dead. This goes for all models. Sure they can find some content if they really search for it, but at least they won't be able to click on the site. If anything the girl now has the chance to say, ya I did it, but I don't do it anymore. Not like dad will keep searching the web for the pics. What was done is done and they can move on with their lives knowing the site "doesn't exist" anymore. This is not false hope nor is it a plot into luring models. I always explain clearly that her promo content on other sites won't be blocked. They understand that, but can sleep better at night knowing the site is blocked. If that makes them happy, I am happy to do it for them! Nothing wrong with keeping models happy. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

10-27-2008, 02:00 AM	#95
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	Either way it is yours to run how you want. No matter what everything should be listed in plain sight via a terms of service so affiliates have that information to make their own choice before signing up. Same goes for how you handle violations, what content is usable and where. Then would you please explain the signature. It clearly "now paying 75% of all sales". __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

10-27-2008, 02:02 AM	#96
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	Fact is sales are as strong as ever, and this has not adversely affected us in ANY WAY. Therefore I am happy to do it for any of my girls if it helps them sleep better at night. I think affiliates of our sites will vouch for this. If I have to give up 2-5 sales a month from NY as opposed to the 50 per day a site gets, it's all worth it to keep a model happy. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

10-27-2008, 02:06 AM	#97
Ann-Angelcom Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: new york Posts: 500	The signature is also accurate. Some affiliates who have contacted me who send larger amounts of traffic/ sales, will get bumped to 75% for a decided period of time as a reward for their efforts. We have also run promos in the past where everyone received 75% for a period of time. We will most likely do it again this Christmas for all affiliates. __________________ Digitalangeldollars.com 10% on all referrals!! NOW PAYING 75% OF ALL SALES!!!

10-27-2008, 09:35 AM	#100
timlover Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 540	I can understand where people are coming from on both sides of this issue, but you really shouldn't use money/sales as a matter of leverage in disputes between a customer and the agent. Infact, in the real world thats pretty much considered theft. If you don't pay your electric bill or cable bill, the company doesn't turn off half your service or readjust your rate to get your attention. If they mail you and you don't get your letters....or you don't respond...it gets suspended. Sometimes good intentions don't always make for good business practices. probably just a learning lesson for both parties. __________________