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Ann Angel webmaster changing percentages to 5%?

10-26-2008, 11:39 AM

Was wondering why my stats on sales seemed to be off:
Affiliate: DigitalAngelDollars

Subaccount:0001-anna-angel.com

Date: 2008-10-25 16:18:56

Type: Single

Sub Id:0308299601000005435

Amount: $2.39

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Then I checked out this:

DigitalAngelDollars

08 Aug 2004

5.000 <---what my percentage of the sale is.

I am thinking this has to be a error. Until I heard this :"Oh, do you know what this is? Anna's bf sets your referral to 5 or 10% when you use pictures that have too much labia, or something.

He doesn't get in touch with you first, he just does that. He waits until you make enough ripped off sales that you notice, and gives that as a reason."

No labia on my galleries.......I think I did see a butthole peeking through though

Would like some answers please

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10-26-2008, 11:42 AM

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10-26-2008, 11:44 AM

CCBILL should yank their account for that - NATS has a policy that if they catch anybody using their software to jerk an affiliate around (shave) then sayonara, CCBILL should have the same - he had the right to terminate you if you broke a rule that is in their Terms and Conditions - but NOT the right to STEAL from you which is exactly what he did by setting your affiliate % to 5% without informing you.

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10-26-2008, 11:44 AM

5% is the new pps

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10-26-2008, 11:44 AM

that doesn't sound good
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10-26-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Mutt

CCBILL should yank their account for that - NATS has a policy that if they catch anybody using their software to jerk an affiliate around (shave) then sayonara, CCBILL should have the same - he had the right to terminate you if you broke a rule that is in their Terms and Conditions - but NOT the right to STEAL from you which is exactly what he did by setting your affiliate % to 5% without informing you.

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10-26-2008, 11:49 AM

That's bullshit! If he didn't inform you of the percentage change he needs to refund you 100% of those sales back not 50%.
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10-26-2008, 11:54 AM

that sucks,...

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10-26-2008, 11:55 AM

Posting about it here is good, and I hope you pulled all links.

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10-26-2008, 11:56 AM

Anywhere to check what payment is set to?
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10-26-2008, 11:57 AM

wow what a crock of shit......very unprofessional

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10-26-2008, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Manowar

Anywhere to check what payment is set to?

"Tools" in ccbill

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10-26-2008, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by Manowar

Anywhere to check what payment is set to?

tools in ccbill will list your programs and the percentage.
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10-26-2008, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -

Posting about it here is good, and I hope you pulled all links.

See what the response is first.

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10-26-2008, 12:02 PM

Thats some serious fucked up shit.

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10-26-2008, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Bods4Mods

See what the response is first.

Fuck that... I would move on no matter what the response. There are plenty of quality programs out there.

I see people cry about the direction of this industry all the time. The only way it will ever change is if people don't forgiving program operators for this kind of of shit. Its like women who stay with men that beat them.

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10-26-2008, 12:07 PM

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Thats some serious fucked up shit.

Yeah, and I guess what pisses me off is that it is one of the better sites out there as far as updating and excellent content. Sites like that are a joy to push.

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10-26-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -

Fuck that... I would move on no matter what the response. There are plenty of quality programs out there.

I see people cry about the direction of this industry all the time. The only way it will ever change is if people don't forgiving program operators for this kind of of shit. Its like women who stay with men that beat them.

I get where you are coming from totally man. Trust me. I would just like to hear what they have to say about it. Digital Angel Dollars will be stricken from bods.

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10-26-2008, 12:13 PM

This reminds me to do my regular check of ccbill affiliate subaccounts.

After login, click on "Tools", change the "Items per page" setting at the very bottom to 500, then click on "Percentage Payout" to rank accounts by that value. You'll clearly see anything that's not kosher.

Unfortunately, you have to check each account individually (click "View") in order to see whether they're shafting you on rebills.
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10-26-2008, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by Bods4Mods

I get where you are coming from totally man. Trust me. I would just like to hear what they have to say about it. Digital Angel Dollars will be stricken from bods.

I have been sending sales for years. I am pretty sure with the thousands of account they have on CCBill that they made a mistake.

Don't worry they'll fixed up.

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10-26-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by TheSenator

I have been sending sales for years. I am pretty sure with the thousands of account they have on CCBill that they made a mistake.

Don't worry they'll fixed up.

If you know ccbill's admin. Please try to guess how such a mistake could happen? I have a hard time doing that.

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10-26-2008, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by rowan

This reminds me to do my regular check of ccbill affiliate subaccounts.

After login, click on "Tools", change the "Items per page" setting at the very bottom to 500, then click on "Percentage Payout" to rank accounts by that value. You'll clearly see anything that's not kosher.

Unfortunately, you have to check each account individually (click "View") in order to see whether they're shafting you on rebills.

Thx for the headsup, will do one now.
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10-26-2008, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by fris

5% is the new pps

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10-26-2008, 12:47 PM

Thats crap, hope to hear a response from someone behind the program

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10-26-2008, 12:49 PM

So is this content provided by them? In promotional packages or is it content taken from the members section by your self?

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10-26-2008, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by Sly

So is this content provided by them? In promotional packages or is it content taken from the members section by your self?

Promo and members. 99% of the sites I promote I do through members area and following the rules set forth by the company.

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10-26-2008, 12:55 PM

If its changed without contacting you that's fucked up and fraud. I hope CCBill take necessary action..
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10-26-2008, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by LukieD

If its changed without contacting you that's fucked up and fraud. I hope CCBill take necessary action..

Not a single word from them. A reach around would have been nice

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10-26-2008, 01:24 PM

That's fucked up...reminds me of someone else i know. i'd be curious as to their response on this.

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10-26-2008, 01:30 PM

Without an email and an attempt to resolve issues it's theft and shaving on the program's part. Those sales need to get refunded 100% -- no 50/50 split. Bods got shaved and robbed. Those rebills need to get corrected too.
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10-26-2008, 01:36 PM

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That's fucked up...reminds me of someone else i know. i'd be curious as to their response on this.

Yet another reason I like NATS better.

Why would you like nats better?
Think it would be any different with someone altering a percentage?
Hell with any third party script, not only can they alter the percentage they are also in charge of sending out their own checks. Now you would really trust a company more if they were in control of not only the payout percentages but also all of the money too?

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10-26-2008, 01:39 PM

must have been the work of a rogue employee.
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10-26-2008, 01:59 PM

Out for a while. Hopefully this gets resolved by the time I get back. Feel free to bump in my absence

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10-26-2008, 02:04 PM

thats pretty messed up..

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10-26-2008, 02:10 PM

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10-26-2008, 02:14 PM

I checked my percentage payout with them and it is at 50%
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10-26-2008, 02:17 PM

Haven't I read this before?

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10-26-2008, 02:20 PM

Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of.

That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%.

This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

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10-26-2008, 02:21 PM

I pulled their links after I found out they were blocking IPs on tour links and hosted galleries (all going 403)
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10-26-2008, 02:24 PM

Wow, what a nice shave!!
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10-26-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by F U S I O N

I pulled their links after I found out they were blocking IPs on tour links and hosted galleries (all going 403)

Yes, they has a reason for doing that. I emailed them and it all got fixed.

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10-26-2008, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by Ann-Angelcom

Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of.

That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%.

This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

In the future I would suggest you terminate/suspend partners you believe are in violation of your terms when you can't make contact with them. You are simply asking for trouble doing something like this. I'm not even sure if its legal.

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10-26-2008, 02:31 PM

Hmm... never had a problem with DAD... oh wait.. that doesn't sound right.

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10-26-2008, 02:37 PM

I wanted to give the affiliate benefit of a doubt and it was mainly to draw the affiliate's attention to the problem, since they did not reply to complaint emails. Suspension would have come in only one more week. I think it's fair to give everyone a chance to straighten things up.

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP.

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10-26-2008, 02:50 PM

So you drop their percentage just to get their attention? What is ccbill's take on this, someone should send a link to this thread to corvette, That is so wrong on so many levels, bods has excellent traffic, i know its made me lots of money over the years.

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10-26-2008, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by fris

So you drop their percentage just to get their attention? What is ccbill's take on this, someone should send a link to this thread to corvette, That is so wrong on so many levels, bods has excellent traffic, i know its made me lots of money over the years.

No, I dropped him because he was violating some of our terms in content usage. If someone violates our terms, and they do not reply to our contacts, this is the first step taken. They are given a chance to straighten things out before full suspension.

I guess by trying to do the right thing for the affiliate, I gave myself more of a headache than I had with him violating my terms. I did what was in the best interest of the affiliate.

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10-26-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by Ann-Angelcom

Nice to see that instead of a simple email shot our way to resolve the problem, you make a post about it on GFY. Had an email been sent the problem would have already been taken care of.

That being said, we sent 3 emails to this account regarding violation of our terms of using certain types of material for promo issues. Instead of suspending the account, we dropped it to 5% to get your attention. Apparently it did, so perhaps now you can take care of the issues you were emailed about so we can bump you back up to 50%.

This is an issue only relating to you since you violated some terms. No one else is affected so no one needs to worry. Our business practices are always legit and 100% secure.

Perhaps now you can send a message out to me or contact me via all the contact info you have for me instead of making such a post. That is why we have customer support contacts. Last time I checked, GFY wasn't a customer support contact for DigitalAngelDollars

Your answer is very rude, impolite and confrontating... to sum it up : very bad public relations.

With all the affiliate programs out there, everybody who read that is definitly not going to use you in the future.

Why lowering the percentage to 5 % instead of just suspending the account ? it sounds like a very shady way to keep the affiliate sending sales while suspended.

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10-26-2008, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by Ann-Angelcom

I guess by trying to do the right thing for the affiliate, I gave myself more of a headache than I had with him violating my terms. I did what was in the best interest of the affiliate.

Are you serious? If you really wanted to get hold of someone you can. Post on boards they frequent/ask others for their icq etc.

And dropping an affiliate to 5% until they realise is clearly the best way to get their attention? I lol'd.
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10-26-2008, 03:30 PM

The affiliate's account has now been suspended until they are able to resolve the issue we have notified them of several times.

We provide great support and affiliate care. If any affiliate has a problem, has any questions, or is in need of more promo tools, we have a 24/7 email support system. We can easily resolve any problem or situation within a matter of minutes that comes up.

I am hurt that this affiliate who has been with us for such a long time has gone this route and that we had to come to the suspension of the account. Hopefully "Bods4Mods" can straighten this out so we can get back to business as usual.

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10-26-2008, 03:31 PM

Originally posted by Ann-Angelcom

Further, 403 errors are caused in NY and NJ, that's it. This is done for some pretty obvious reasons. If you feel you need to pull the program because we protect our models, then so be it. We can release single IPS from these areas if needs be. So if you are an affiliate and have a problem, we can always release your IP.

Does this really work? pics and vids are available all over the internet, the only thing that can't be reached is the paysite and fhg.

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