...ok i can't argue with that :1orglaugh but still...

sounds like it's ran by revengebuck.com , or am I mistaken Monica?

What is funny and not so funny anymore is that I have half joked with a few people online about making my invite only program into a paid one where affiliates would pay a one time fee to join it after an approval process. Primarily just to screen out those undesired people and keeping it very limited. Plus I figured the sheer drama would be funny as hell.
Never even contemplated doing it MLM style though, guess I just do not have it in me.

In this instance, it does not seem like they are screening anyone though. Anyone with a few bucks and a contact list can sign up. Side note - I have already been hit up on ICQ about 60 times since yesterday. I also was offered this or a very similar program about a month ago when it was in beta. So please stop hitting me up.

Ok so I signed up, I think I'm under TampaToker. I have fixxed a thing just for you guys that want to join, pay only $10 a month instead of $40 if you sign through my ref http://www.allxclubpro.com/1212901

Just click "other options" and choose "associate kit only" for $10. You get all the stuff except the free porn. http://www.allxclubpro.com/1212901

Its had almost as much hype as kimbo slice. I wonder if it will fall as hard. God bless Kb & d$ if they are the real owners. I think this might be the most hyped thing ive seen on gfy in a bit.

Yeap you signed up underneath me i appreciate that! I will be adding you to icq shortly :thumbsup

Hahaha... You people should recheck your math... hehe..

Dude, omg.. your math on your site is actually impossible. It's "MISSING" factors, huge fucking factors.. Like active % base of Webmasters (now surfers) which is already only 8%...

Someone, needs to seriously go over the math on that site. Mathmatically speaking the if you convert any decent 60/40, hell even 50/50 program or any $25+ pps program - you will earn more.

Unless your that one lucky fucker that gets the majority of people under him that are active, and they produce sales, giving you your bonus levels, and all works out - then you might actually get paid for. It's almost mathematically impossible.

In short.. it means you are referring a lot of people you don't get paid on, active people.. yes you may get a % of what they buy, you won't hit the bonus marks, and you won't get any decent money. But if you pushed just about any other program, you get paid without question.

I could sit for hours and pick this apart.. so much math is missing.

Maybe it's so hyped because it may be the "real deal"...

I just want to see how many of these start popping up after this takes off....That IMHO will be the funniest thing EVER! Another "wait til someone else has a good idea, and copy them" deal like MySpace, FaceBook, Ebay or whatever.

And MikeG, you are right on with your reasoning. If it was called a "referral program, more of the pessimistic people would be more eager to join. Its simply a multi-tiered affiliate program...doesn't get simpler than that.

thats what it souds like to me. I'd be worried they get shut down. if thats the only thing they sell to surfers. but I could be wrong. going to see how it plays out. then launch ours which has a full turnkey business behind it and access to tons of porn.

I'm glad so many people are signing up to them though

from what you just said its totally illegal.

In the most legitimate MLM companies, commissions are earned only on sales of the company's products or services. No money may be earned from recruiting alone ("sign-up fees"), though money earned from the sales of members recruited is one attraction of MLM arrangements. If participants are paid primarily from money received from new recruits, or if they are required to buy more product than they are likely to sell, then the company may be a pyramid or Ponzi scheme, which is illegal in most countries.

Ya, It's probably illegal, that might mean the early people might get paid though :P

http://www.allxclubpro.com/1212901/

I will be launching our for sure and it will be 100% legit with a full turnkey porn business behind it.. GetRichInPorn.com was set to be a MLM which it already is just only 3 levels. our new system will blow anyone away.

and the way I see it set up is illegal but then again who cares until they get sued or shut down. I have been researching this for 3 years now. its not a new idea:2 cents:

I just didnt want to launch our mlm until our products made more then the downline/matrix etc.

Roger, hit me up on ICQ...

Ok, make it shady as hell :) please email me when ya about to launch thx

Nearly all MLM programs can be considered “product-based pyramid schemes,” or “recruiting MLM’s” – because they thrive on recruitment of new “distributors” – who are the actual customers. Here the term “recruiting MLM” – or “MLM” for short – refers to schemes that are characterized by multi-level endless chain recruitment of distributors as their primary customers.

Recruiting MLM’s incorporate these “Five Red Flags” in their compensation plans:

1. Recruiting of participants is unlimited in an endless chain of empowered and motivated recruiters recruiting recruiters.

2. Advancement in a hierarchy of multiple levels of “distributors” is achieved by recruitment, rather than by appointment.

3. Ongoing purchases (products, sales “tools,” etc.) by “distributors” are encouraged in order for them to be eligible for commissions and to advance in the business ("pay to play").

4. The company pays commissions and/or bonuses to more than four levels of “distributors.”

5. For each sale, company payout for the total of all upline participants equals or exceeds that for the person actually selling the product, creating an inadequate incentive to sell products directly and an excessive incentive to recruit new participants.

WARNING: Where data has become available for MLM companies with these 5 red flags in their compensation plans (which is most MLM’s), approximately 99.9% of participants lose money – after subtracting purchases from the company. You would be wise to avoid participating —regardless of how great the products, how many "respectable" people manage it or endorse it, and whether or not law enforcement has taken any action against them. Your odds of profiting from gambling in Las Vegas are far better. (See “Which Does the Greater Harm,” posted at www.mlm-thetruth.com)

you are right, there is no difference. except you have to PAY for this.

MLM's a great if done right.. Now I'm afraid this system will fuck up the hardwork I put into launching a real mlm and jade what i'm doing:(

Which, as also mentioned before, eliminates deadbeat webmasters/distributors...

which makes it illegal ask any attorney. unless I'm still missing something

You are missing something Roger... you have to offer a service or product of equal or greater value than the cost, and in order to become a distributor and make money, there is a different level of membership...plain and simple.

And my question is still ignored..... So I will continue to my bashing.

And what question is that Doc?

Sounds like an affiliate program with a built in shaving scheme... so how many surfers do you think are going to magically become webmasters and refer others in my downline. I think about none, well okay... maybe one, but even if it was 3 levels deep, it doesn't make any financial sense based on the premise of it all being ADULT related. Porn sites is taboo at best.... downright illegal at worst... to be honest, there is a reason why MLM is in mainstream, you think these guys in MLM havn't thought of this before? Your all kidding yourselves - it's been thought out a long time ago, and I can't see it working, other than the OWNER collecting all those memberships from webmasters now, instead of from surfers. Talk about a sucker punch... good luck with it those that "signed up", you'll need it!

Finally... I have been trying to find out what sites you actually push to the surfer. I saw the vod, sex store, but I wasn't sure what people were pushing.

You push us, what appears to be a Webmaster version, so I assume the surfer isn't getting the same pitch.

Holy shit man, you could NOT be more wrong on that... :mad::mad::mad:

yea, maybe if it was 300 to join. any deadbeat can afford 10-40 dollars.

And let me ask this. If you make your money from your down lines monthly residual, What happens when they don't pay anymore?

Oh, come on, of course you know who the industry leaders are... You know, the ones that scammed their way to riches many times over by now, so this Ponzi scheme should come as no surprise. :Graucho

lolol man i had almost typed something to that comment as well but i was like 'fuck it'

edit: mmmm post 69...

The products being included in the offering come from a few different resources

1. Sex Stores
2. VOD
3. FREE DVD (Comes from the Sex Store)
4. CHAT - CAMZ
5. DATING - IWANTU.COM (working out minor details on this offering)

AllXClub is also looking for other companies who would like to offer their "product" to be added as a part of the membership. It would be in a similar fashion as providing members with "XYZ" as part of their membership, and this would bring traffic from places you may not have been getting before since this is also being pushed heavily in the mainstream sector. I am not the deal maker, but any company with an interest can pass their product offering along to me, and it will be provided to the deal makers.

I'm thinking that a lot of the people here have no experience in MLM and are thinking it's a great new thing because it has a paysite attached to it...

Nope, not at all. My buddy helped create the porn side of it, and I figured I'd have some fun with it so I made Monica join :)

yep.

scary :upsidedow

Here's a little excerpt from a good article...


MLM is a Good Business

Yes, there are some bad companies out there and pure pyramid schemes. Over all MLM is the last hope in America for the little person to learn how to make money and actually make it. There are over 10 million people that earn a part time to a full time MLM income. People that hate MLM always ignore the part time person because the ?Bashers? (see below) would rather have them washing dishes or waiting tables....

Buffet paid $1Billion for Pampered Chef, ? an MLM
Amway does Billions for years ? and MLM
Tupperware? MLM
Avon ? an MLM
Monavie - $1 Billion/year?. In 6 years!


Read the full article here Full Story

Yup that is indeed a good article, biased but good.
Suppose an article that details the aspects of a Ponzi scheme would fall into the bad article category?

BTW since the FAQ is very blank when it comes to questions. Say someone joins under someone. They like the idea of the porn. Well their one month free trial (er access) expires to so and so site and they join or get up sold to a premium membership. Who gets the money earned on it- The MLM member who signed them up and their upstream or?
What about any future offers, or products with such upgrade abilities that may be offered to the buyers via newsletter, blog, or whatever in the future?

:1orglaugh

yeah that article is clearly unbiased and impartial....

and stating how much each company makes has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with how much someone who joins an MLM makes. what is DOES say is how much you folks at the top could make. which is great i guess.

the hilarity continues :upsidedow

just rambling
 

crying out loud people it is just another tool. If it makes money great if it doesn't you're not out much. $10 per month, $40 per month whatever, if it's not making you money after whatever period of time you've decided is necessary for it to be a failure or success in your mind simply quit.

allxclubpro.com/1197201

Well, good luck to you... if you had *ANY* experience in MLM, you wouldn't be here saying that... then again, MLM is all about recruitment, so you wouldn't be saying it anyways. :mad:

funny to hear you knock them, then copy them.... way to go!!! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

I wonder how many people using your shit spend more than they make a month... wouldn't that be illegal in your own words???

ASM was active in this thread.

I get sad every time I see him in an old bump. :(