TGP owners: are you afraid of tube sites stealing your traffic? - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-17-2008, 04:01 PM

Dozens on new tube sites pop up every day. A lot of them very sucessful.

It's no secret that TGPs/MPGs have less and less traffic each day.

Aren't you afraid that your big TGP sites will eventually fade to nothingness?

Are you taking any measures to secure your business?

What are your thoughs on this?

MindWaste · 10-17-2008, 04:11 PM

No reason to close tgps. They are good to get link prosperity up and trafic trade to funnel and join the fun and make a tube site yourself. never close anything especialy with the badwith allowance so high now a days.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-17-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MindWaste

No reason to close tgps. They are good to get link prosperity up and trafic trade to funnel and join the fun and make a tube site yourself. never close anything especialy with the badwith allowance so high now a days.

Your nick suits you very well.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-17-2008, 04:33 PM

No TGP owners have the balls to speak up?

RogerV · 10-17-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Right

Dozens on new tube sites pop up every day. A lot of them very sucessful.

It's no secret that TGPs/MPGs have less and less traffic each day.

Aren't you afraid that your big TGP sites will eventually fade to nothingness?

Are you taking any measures to secure your business?

What are your thoughs on this?

TGP's are just adding a tubescript to there site shouldnt hurt them much unless they dont switch up

MindWaste · 10-17-2008, 04:37 PM

why whould you close a TGP it cant hurt you is what im saying.. Unless you have huge files..

Snake Doctor · 10-17-2008, 04:40 PM

I will have to let The Leader know about this thread

10-17-2008, 04:47 PM

In short, No.
It's the MGP's that are threatened by tube, as TGP caters to the pic surfer..And yes, there are still TONS of people browsing pics. I'm actually seeing growth this year and better ratios, believe it or not.

As a sidenote, I see a lot of MGP's switching to a tube format..They display like a mgp, but the previews lead to a streaming page. It's like they say: Adapt or die.

notoldschool · 10-17-2008, 04:49 PM

How exactly does a tube site steal traffic from the TGP's?

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-17-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

How exactly does a tube site steal traffic from the TGP's?

Try using your brain for once.

Quagmire · 10-17-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sherm

In short, No.
It's the MGP's that are threatened by tube, as TGP caters to the pic surfer..And yes, there are still TONS of people browsing pics. I'm actually seeing growth this year and better ratios, believe it or not.

As a sidenote, I see a lot of MGP's switching to a tube format..They display like a mgp, but the previews lead to a streaming page. It's like they say: Adapt or die.

Ding ding ding! We have a winner!

People just don't get it.

On a side note, are you going to be in Vegas for Internext? We have to play some more Roulette.

sortie · 10-17-2008, 06:03 PM

The answer is clear. See sig.

KillerK · 10-17-2008, 10:36 PM

I think you mean to say MGP's... Tgps are not really affected by tube sites all that much. Granted some since it's easier to jerk off now but the loyal ones still want pictures.

brassmonkey · 10-17-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sortie

The answer is clear. See sig.

didnt know perl was still in

darksoul · 10-18-2008, 12:43 AM

I don't think mpg owners are afraid of that or even care given that a good number of them trade traffic with the tubes.

aico · 10-18-2008, 12:48 AM

fuzebox · 10-18-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

On a side note, are you going to be in Vegas for Internext? We have to play some more Roulette.

Sherm can't be bothered to make the drive from Henderson... Maybe if they held Internext at Green Valley

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-18-2008, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

I will have to let The Leader know about this thread

Who? SleazyDream?

DamageX · 10-18-2008, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Right

Your nick suits you very well.

Yours doesn't.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-18-2008, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Yours doesn't.

Are all your TGPs dead yet?

It's ok to cry.

DamageX · 10-18-2008, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Right

Are all your TGPs dead yet?

It's ok to cry.

Are you sure you want to play the pissing match game with me, Batts?

Mr. Blue · 10-18-2008, 04:54 AM

(Fill in the Blank) owners: are you afraid of tube sites stealing your (Fill in the Blank)

I think framing your question in that manner would probably suit the situation a little better.

Since you asked about TGPs though, quality sites will always remain, a person running a quality site doesn't necessarily have to worry about the new flavor of the week that comes along to "destroy" them.

There's going to be crappy tgps that fall off, but they were crappy to begin with so their demise was bound to happen anyway. The better ones might lose some traffic, but certainly not enough for them to "fade to nothingness"

Barefootsies · 10-18-2008, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Yours doesn't.

seeandsee · 10-18-2008, 06:31 AM

Tube evil

Klen · 10-18-2008, 06:37 AM

As longest there is traffic,there wont be dead tgp or mgp sites.

Matyko · 10-18-2008, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

I will have to let The Leader know about this thread

Ha-ha! +1 :DDD

commonsense · 10-18-2008, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Are you sure you want to play the pissing match game with me, Batts?

I thought Batts was out of the business, still owes people money and sold/lost all his content?

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-18-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by commonsense

I thought Batts was out of the business

He did.

I'm not Batts.

SpicyM · 10-18-2008, 07:57 AM

I dont understand one thing, how exactly do they attract people better than MGP sites??

By clip lenght? By clip quality?? Just dont understand it.. I can also include 30 second clips on my MGP gallery.. that would make up to 2 minutes of video.. or do they only want those 10 minute files??

Well then why not provide them freehosted video galls with 2 minute clips?

teomaxxx · 10-18-2008, 10:22 AM

as a long time former paid spot advertiser on biggest TGPs, I can tell you that their traffic has dropped over 50% in just 3 years (yes, thehun traffic too) according to Sextracker stats

that traffic should go somewhere else and I doubt it went to other TGPs, MGPs or Torrents. It went to tubes with long movies

Jarmusch · 10-18-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

or do they only want those 10 minute files??

Have you been living in a cave? Surfers now want 30min+ tube videos.

DBS.US · 10-18-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sherm

In short, No.
It's the MGP's that are threatened by tube, as TGP caters to the pic surfer..And yes, there are still TONS of people browsing pics. I'm actually seeing growth this year and better ratios, believe it or not.

As a sidenote, I see a lot of MGP's switching to a tube format..They display like a mgp, but the previews lead to a streaming page. It's like they say: Adapt or die.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-18-2008, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

as a long time former paid spot advertiser on biggest TGPs, I can tell you that their traffic has dropped over 50% in just 3 years (yes, thehun traffic too) according to Sextracker stats

that traffic should go somewhere else and I doubt it went to other TGPs, MGPs or Torrents. It went to tubes with long movies

QUOTED FOR THE TRUTH.

brand0n · 10-18-2008, 11:35 AM

so who is "mr right"
?

cosis · 10-18-2008, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx

as a long time former paid spot advertiser on biggest TGPs, I can tell you that their traffic has dropped over 50% in just 3 years (yes, thehun traffic too) according to Sextracker stats

that traffic should go somewhere else and I doubt it went to other TGPs, MGPs or Torrents. It went to tubes with long movies

The way I see the people who went from tgp's/mgp's to tubes are the hardcore leeching surfers that aren't ever going to buy anything anyway.

tony286 · 10-18-2008, 11:43 AM

utgps convert for me. I think more buyers go to tgps.JUst because something has a ton of traffic that doesnt mean the traffic has value. Look at youtube it cant make a profit,it loses money.

BlackCrayon · 10-18-2008, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

so who is "mr right"
?

Whoever it is, they are using Batts nick.

teomaxxx · 10-18-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cosis

The way I see the people who went from tgp's/mgp's to tubes are the hardcore leeching surfers that aren't ever going to buy anything anyway.

It was not only hardcore leeching surfers as there was drop in SUs too, but not exactly in the same % range - the drop in visitors numbers didnt exactly compared with number of SUs - something like 50% drop in visitors numbers causing a 30% drop of SUs.
thats only gross estimates, coming from my own stats, there could be always another 10 factors causing drop in SUs. I had spots on thehun for 4.5 years, month by month, so I know what sites could do well there and what sites not.

but hey, even as webmaster I bought at least one membership a year to some small site as I wanted to check their content

I dont buy memberships anymore...

SpicyM · 10-18-2008, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosis

The way I see the people who went from tgp's/mgp's to tubes are the hardcore leeching surfers that aren't ever going to buy anything anyway.

yeah, seems like that but then I am affraid if the drop is ever going to stop ??

what do u think??

Lamis · 10-18-2008, 04:04 PM

AFRAID??????

Man, this is a FACT ALREADY..... Check dansmovies.com and thehun.com on ALEXA and compare them with redtube... Funny thing is that those MGPS are still charging the same money for PAs..

cosis · 10-18-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

yeah, seems like that but then I am affraid if the drop is ever going to stop ??

what do u think??

The traffic drop seemed to even out a few months ago - not quite sure why this is yet. There will always be traffic for TGP's. It's kind of like when link sites had all the traffic and TGP's starting getting popular. Sites like Persian Kitty's traffic when down a lot but it still up and running and I am pretty sure still turning a good profit.

cosis · 10-18-2008, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lamis

AFRAID??????

Man, this is a FACT ALREADY..... Check dansmovies.com and thehun.com on ALEXA and compare them with redtube... Funny thing is that those MGPS are still charging the same money for PAs..

This is true however remember sites like redtube, pornotube, etc. link to movies loading off pages from they're own domains. I am pretty sure even Alexa counts these "raw" hits towards traffic numbers.

slavdogg · 10-18-2008, 07:59 PM

large TGPs and MPGs should look into selling their sites while they still can

cosis · 10-18-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg

large TGPs and MPGs should look into selling their sites while they still can

selling now is kind of pointless - however some changes may be needed in the future to keep up. I am not saying turning into a full blown tube site however linking to some of the shorter tube clips provided by sponsors may keep your traffic from shrinking.

SpicyM · 10-19-2008, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamis

AFRAID??????

Man, this is a FACT ALREADY..... Check dansmovies.com and thehun.com on ALEXA and compare them with redtube... Funny thing is that those MGPS are still charging the same money for PAs..

I know. My question was if this is going to stop at some level or they will just die? And yes, the prices are crazy.

Davy · 10-19-2008, 02:38 AM

Porn Ass · 10-23-2008, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX

Are you sure you want to play the pissing match game with me, Batts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Right

He did.

I'm not Batts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

so who is "mr right"
?

Bump, https://gfy.com/sell-and-buy-forum/799403-program-sale.html

Batts thinks his shit suddenly doesnt stink, fuckin tool

Corleone · 10-23-2008, 03:49 AM

alot of tgp owners loosing traffic rigjt now. the smart ones work on tubes already

10-17-2008, 04:01 PM	#1
Mr.Right - Banned For Life I guarantee it Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 18,314	TGP owners: are you afraid of tube sites stealing your traffic? Dozens on new tube sites pop up every day. A lot of them very sucessful. It's no secret that TGPs/MPGs have less and less traffic each day. Aren't you afraid that your big TGP sites will eventually fade to nothingness? Are you taking any measures to secure your business? What are your thoughs on this?

10-17-2008, 04:11 PM	#2
MindWaste Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Tac Town Posts: 3,662	No reason to close tgps. They are good to get link prosperity up and trafic trade to funnel and join the fun and make a tube site yourself. never close anything especialy with the badwith allowance so high now a days. __________________ Traviss Solomon ----- HOGDICE.COM HOGDICE.COM is a broken website if you have advice email me....

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shermo Guest Posts: n/a	In short, No. It's the MGP's that are threatened by tube, as TGP caters to the pic surfer..And yes, there are still TONS of people browsing pics. I'm actually seeing growth this year and better ratios, believe it or not. As a sidenote, I see a lot of MGP's switching to a tube format..They display like a mgp, but the previews lead to a streaming page. It's like they say: Adapt or die.

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SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,560	I dont understand one thing, how exactly do they attract people better than MGP sites?? By clip lenght? By clip quality?? Just dont understand it.. I can also include 30 second clips on my MGP gallery.. that would make up to 2 minutes of video.. or do they only want those 10 minute files?? Well then why not provide them freehosted video galls with 2 minute clips?

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