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baddog · 10-20-2008, 03:11 PM

Just a heads up especially for GFY.

GotWebHost has heard your requests and have come up with a solution.

While we feel dedicated IP's are the best as far as SEO is concerned, we understand that not everyone feels the same way, and shared IP's are significantly cheaper.

We are now offering new virtual SEO shared plans. Plans will come with the option to get 5, 10, 14, 20, 25 or 30 different C's, all with different nameservers. Each C will come with two (2) IP's. So if you get 30 Class C's, you get 60 IP's.

These will come with one login so you don't need a different panel for each IP.

We have not published the page with these plans yet, so if you want to get in on the ground floor, hit me up. We feel our pricing easily competes with the new discount SEO hosts out there, and we will not oversell or offer you a designated amount of storage/bandwidth then suspend your account for actually using it. I can assure you our support easily surpasses that offered by the "competition."

I can be reached at ICQ 16 07 54 97 or you can use our contact page for more info.

Thanks.

Sosa · 10-20-2008, 03:33 PM

Nice deal Lloyd.

baddog · 10-20-2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa

Nice deal Lloyd.

Thanks. At $5 an IP, we feel confident that people need look no further.

newbreed · 10-20-2008, 03:47 PM

Sounds like a great deal. I'll be looking in to your hosting soon Buddy, almost ready to add another plan!

baddog · 10-20-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newbreed

Sounds like a great deal. I'll be looking in to your hosting soon Buddy, almost ready to add another plan!

Thanks, it is a great deal. I have been trying to get this set up for a month, but with travel and other stuff, took longer than expected.

Plus, the way DirectAdmin is set up we would have had to give a different panel for each IP and that just wasn't convenient for anyone.

The Duck · 10-20-2008, 03:58 PM

Can someone explain c-classes to me I never picked up on it.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-20-2008, 03:59 PM

Finally you post something news worthy.
I am proud of you for once, progress is important and a sign of evolution.

Is that Therapy working out for you?

baddog · 10-20-2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah

Can someone explain c-classes to me I never picked up on it.

What are "Multiple Class C IP Addresses?"

An IP is an Internet Protocol address which is a numeric address. This address looks like 12.34.567.890 and is in the format A.B.C.D. In the 12.34.567.890, the 567 is in the C place. When you have multiple Class C IP's, they have different C numbers. Modern web hosting companies, if they give you multiple IP's, give them in the same A.B.C class, but with a different D.

V_RocKs · 10-20-2008, 05:17 PM

Nice plans!

The Duck · 10-20-2008, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

What are "Multiple Class C IP Addresses?"

An IP is an Internet Protocol address which is a numeric address. This address looks like 12.34.567.890 and is in the format A.B.C.D. In the 12.34.567.890, the 567 is in the C place. When you have multiple Class C IP's, they have different C numbers. Modern web hosting companies, if they give you multiple IP's, give them in the same A.B.C class, but with a different D.

Thanks, I learned something today.

Shaze · 10-20-2008, 06:11 PM

didn't post pricing.

IhostSEO · 10-20-2008, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah

Can someone explain c-classes to me I never picked up on it.

What are classes of IP?

All IPv4 IPs which we use generally consists of 32 bits which is represented with 4 decimal numbers separated by dots(.) for easiness in reading writing and remembering.

For example :
10.11.12.13 is an IP which represents 00001010.00001011.00001100.00001101 in binary

The 4 separate decimals are 4 classes of the IP as per classless convention..

So, for IP 10.11.12.13...

10 = A Class
11 = B Class
12 = C Class
13 = D Class

Now about C Class IPs..

In terms of SEO(SEO hosting more specifically) C Class IPs implies Different C Class IPs, more clearly IPs on different C Classes.

For example IPs 1.1.1.1 and 1.1.1.2 are same C Class as 1.1.1 is common in both.

But IPs 1.1.1.2 and 1.1.2.2 are on different C Class as they are on different c classes 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 respectively.

Similarly 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.2.2 are on different B Classes.
1.1.1.1 and 2.1.1.1 are on different A Classes.

How it is important for SEO?

Yes, it is most important and we realize this. You can go for some Multiple C Class IP hosting providers like me. They let you host your sites on different c class IPs.

I found a blog at V7N regarding Google's Patent which explains why it is important.. blog.v7n.com/2007/10/02/seo-and-web-hosting/

How do I find out if my sites share the same Class C IP?

There are some SEO Tools which let you check C Classes of your sites.
I googled class c checker and found webrankinfo.com/english/tools/class-c-checker.php

baddog · 10-20-2008, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Nice plans!

Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaze

didn't post pricing.

Well, I did actually.

10 IP's on 5 C's = $50
all the way to
60 IP's on 30 C's = $300

goodgirl · 10-20-2008, 09:50 PM

All the traveling...plus you had to wait for me too

Which worked out. And today I got to teach you a few things ;)

Jens Van Assterdam · 10-20-2008, 09:54 PM

Goodgirl = Baddogs wife? Someone enlight me.

JFK · 10-20-2008, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam

Goodgirl = Baddogs wife? Someone enlight me.

Partner is the word

marketsmart · 10-20-2008, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

Partner is the word

i thought lloyd was gay....

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-21-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Thanks. At $5 an IP, we feel confident that people need look no further.

WebAir offer $4 per extra IP.

Setup: $60, costs: $5.95/month, 5000Gb transfer, $4 per extra IP

So their virtual hostig actually looks better.

sandman! · 10-21-2008, 12:09 AM

looks good

InternetIsForPorn · 10-21-2008, 12:17 AM

Nice job man!

Hit me up, we have shared interests.

baddog · 10-21-2008, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Right

WebAir offer $4 per extra IP.

Setup: $60, costs: $5.95/month, 5000Gb transfer, $4 per extra IP

So their virtual hostig actually looks better.

Oh, I did not know they offered 30 Class C's on 30 nameservers on their virtual hosting.

Quote:

Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn

Nice job man!

Hit me up, we have shared interests.

Authorization requested.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-21-2008, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Oh, I did not know they offered 30 Class C's on 30 nameservers on their virtual hosting.

You can order 30 extra Class-C IPs for $120 (I have 7 myself)

Setting name nameservers isn't a problem.

baddog · 10-21-2008, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Right

You can order 30 extra Class-C IPs for $120 (I have 7 myself)

Setting name nameservers isn't a problem.

Our 30 C plan comes with 60 IP's. Since nothing is on their site, you want to quote a price for them?

KillerK · 10-21-2008, 12:52 AM

ARe the blocks

11.11.11.11
11.11.12.11
11.11.13.11

??

Also are the names of who owns the class c's different?

Mr.Right - Banned For Life · 10-21-2008, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Our 30 C plan comes with 60 IP's. Since nothing is on their site, you want to quote a price for them?

who the hell needs 60 IPs ? the days of black hat spamming google is long gone.

most people need 10-15 IP's tops for their network.

and it's easily attainable at webair for lesser price.

baddog · 10-21-2008, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Right

who the hell needs 60 IPs ? the days of black hat spamming google is long gone.

most people need 10-15 IP's tops for their network.

and it's easily attainable at webair for lesser price.

Funny, I have people that need more than 10-15 all day long. Had one guy this morning that wanted every available C I had.

He was disappointed that I only had 103.

Shaze · 10-21-2008, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Right

who the hell needs 60 IPs ? the days of black hat spamming google is long gone.

most people need 10-15 IP's tops for their network.

and it's easily attainable at webair for lesser price.

people with huge networks...i currently have about 50...not sure the exact number. i think many more people do this also.

rowan · 10-21-2008, 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IhostSEO

What are classes of IP?

All IPv4 IPs which we use generally consists of 32 bits which is represented with 4 decimal numbers separated by dots(.) for easiness in reading writing and remembering.

For example :
10.11.12.13 is an IP which represents 00001010.00001011.00001100.00001101 in binary

The 4 separate decimals are 4 classes of the IP as per classless convention..

So, for IP 10.11.12.13...

10 = A Class
11 = B Class
12 = C Class
13 = D Class

Now about C Class IPs..

In terms of SEO(SEO hosting more specifically) C Class IPs implies Different C Class IPs, more clearly IPs on different C Classes.

For example IPs 1.1.1.1 and 1.1.1.2 are same C Class as 1.1.1 is common in both.

But IPs 1.1.1.2 and 1.1.2.2 are on different C Class as they are on different c classes 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 respectively.

Similarly 1.1.1.1 and 1.2.2.2 are on different B Classes.
1.1.1.1 and 2.1.1.1 are on different A Classes.

????

Why not just say a C class is a block of 256 continous IPs in the range 192.0.0.0 to 223.255.255.255?

One C class is x.x.x.0 to x.x.x.255

roly · 10-21-2008, 02:34 AM

are these all on the same B class?

baddog · 10-21-2008, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roly

are these all on the same B class?

For this shared IP plan, yes. If you want different B's you would have to look at our dedicated IP plans.

pornguy · 10-21-2008, 09:29 AM

Now thats worth a bump!

directfiesta · 10-21-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

????

Why not just say a C class is a block of 256 continous IPs in the range 192.0.0.0 to 223.255.255.255?

One C class is x.x.x.0 to x.x.x.255

Yes, but the post was to illustrate what to look at for DIFFERENT class C IP's ( 192.192.192.192 in regards to 192.192.193.192 )

All our IP's ( about 5000 available at the moment ) are all in the range of 199.84.xx.1 ( Class C )

http://www.networkcomputing.com/netdesign/ip101.html

Quote:

Class Range Allocation
A 1-126 N.H.H.H
B 128-191 N.N.H.H
C 192-223 N.N.N.H
D 224-239 Not applicable

rowan · 10-21-2008, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IhostSEO

10.11.12.13 is an IP which represents 00001010.00001011.00001100.00001101 in binary

The 4 separate decimals are 4 classes of the IP as per classless convention..

So, for IP 10.11.12.13...

10 = A Class
11 = B Class
12 = C Class
13 = D Class

I just re-read this and it makes no sense. It's like you're saying the class is determined by which dotted quad is referenced (?? I can't think of any valid way to describe it)

As per my reply, C classes are all of the 256 IP blocks in the range between 192.0.0.x and 223.255.255.x ... nothing to do with first, second or third dotted quads.

(Of course these days "C class" is often used to refer to a block of 256 IPs anywhere in the IP range, regardless of its real/legacy class...)

baddog · 10-21-2008, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens Van Assterdam

Goodgirl = Baddogs wife? Someone enlight me.

You really think she would have me?

directfiesta · 10-21-2008, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

I just re-read this and it makes no sense. It's like you're saying the class is determined by which dotted quad is referenced (?? I can't think of any valid way to describe it)

As per my reply, C classes are all of the 256 IP blocks in the range between 192.0.0.x and 223.255.255.x ... nothing to do with first, second or third dotted quads.

(Of course these days "C class" is often used to refer to a block of 256 IPs anywhere in the IP range, regardless of its real/legacy class...)

AS I said in the post above :

" it was to show what to look at to see if an IP is on a different class "

So in the example, the "C" ( 12 ) was the factor to look to see if it IS a different class C ...
If "D" ( 13 ) would have been the difference, then the IP is on the SAME Class C

I also posted what your IP range starts with ... Class C ....

Anyway, it is not really important here, since it is quite probable that all those IP's will be picked up and splitt between 3 mainstream account

... leaving a few hundreds for our own usage.

baddog · 10-21-2008, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

I just re-read this and it makes no sense. It's like you're saying the class is determined by which dotted quad is referenced (?? I can't think of any valid way to describe it)

As per my reply, C classes are all of the 256 IP blocks in the range between 192.0.0.x and 223.255.255.x ... nothing to do with first, second or third dotted quads.

(Of course these days "C class" is often used to refer to a block of 256 IPs anywhere in the IP range, regardless of its real/legacy class...)

Okay, you lost me. IP 211.112.121.100

Which is the A? The B? The C? The D? Or are you saying they are each C Classes?

goodgirl · 10-21-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

You really think she would have me?

have you? Why would you want a "crazy" woman?

I was thinking we have been partners for over 6 years, if that was a marriage I guess it works with you being in CA and me in IN.

directfiesta · 10-21-2008, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan

(Of course these days "C class" is often used to refer to a block of 256 IPs anywhere in the IP range, regardless of its real/legacy class...)

Exactly , even checkers do not differentiate between a real class C and a block of different class IP

see here

directfiesta · 10-21-2008, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Okay, you lost me. IP 211.112.121.100

Which is the A? The B? The C? The D? Or are you saying they are each C Classes?

That IP is a real C . To be a C, as he stated ,it has to be in this range:

192.0.0.x and 223.255.255.x

so 72.144.144.1 is not a class C IP ...

PS: how about a pic of you and goodgirl together

thehand · 10-21-2008, 10:29 AM

Good stuff Lloyd!

brand0n · 10-21-2008, 10:29 AM

looks good

baddog · 10-21-2008, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta

PS: how about a pic of you and goodgirl together

baddog · 10-21-2008, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

i thought lloyd was gay....

Only for you jungle cakes.

Rorschach · 10-21-2008, 01:02 PM

I would like to point out the downside of so-called SEO hosting.

Like a previous poster stated, the days of having huge internally linked networks is long gone - you can cross link all day but if you don't have link juice coming in you're dead in the water. Look at a vector space map of any cross linked network and it stands out like a sore thumb. Trust, authority, and quality link backs going to (apparently) quality domains is the direction that SEO is going, rather than the huge networks of crap of the late 90s and early 00s.

I would also point out that anyone (including google) can look up what IP is assigned to what host at ARIN; if your IPs are connected to a host that is known for advertising to people that deliberately want to influence their SE rankings, you are potentially setting yourself up for trouble.

The forward thinking SEO has dozens (or hundreds) of virtual accounts at different hosts, providing completely unrelated IPs and a mix of the hosts' and anonymous nameservers. He also quickly writes a custom bot for each host (with copious error management) that plugs into the back end of his management system to abstract the crap work of adding and managing domains.

You have to slide under the radar, and sometimes that means putting in a little extra effort.

BradM · 10-21-2008, 01:04 PM

This is a great idea.

baddog · 10-21-2008, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rorschach

I would like to point out the downside of so-called SEO hosting.

Ask 10 SEO "experts" the same question, get 10 different answers.

BradM · 10-21-2008, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Ask 10 SEO "experts" the same question, get 10 different answers.

An SEO expert doesn't reveal anything. They just get #1 rankings and travel the world.

Rorschach · 10-21-2008, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Ask 10 SEO "experts" the same question, get 10 different answers.

You are a salesman and have a vested interest in pushing the particular model of SEO that your hosting supports... This is an open discussion forum and I am just pointing out the other side of the coin. Having a lot of IPs is no magic bullet.

baddog · 10-21-2008, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rorschach

You are a salesman and have a vested interest in pushing the particular model of SEO that your hosting supports... This is an open discussion forum and I am just pointing out the other side of the coin. Having a lot of IPs is no magic bullet.

Actually, no. It is not my job to convince you what you need. Those that need it know why they need it. I just provide the solutions for them.

You know very little about what we do or how we do it, so you end up making lots of inaccurate assumptions. But that is okay. Like I said, those that need it know why they need it. I just provide the solutions for them.

BradM · 10-21-2008, 01:27 PM

Here's a question I've wanted to know and this is a good a place as any to ask it.
If I am interlinking my network, should each site be on its own class C? Say 20 sites. Does having them all on the exact same IP devalue the link weight?

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baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	New shared SEO plans now available. Just a heads up especially for GFY. GotWebHost has heard your requests and have come up with a solution. While we feel dedicated IP's are the best as far as SEO is concerned, we understand that not everyone feels the same way, and shared IP's are significantly cheaper. We are now offering new virtual SEO shared plans. Plans will come with the option to get 5, 10, 14, 20, 25 or 30 different C's, all with different nameservers. Each C will come with two (2) IP's. So if you get 30 Class C's, you get 60 IP's. These will come with one login so you don't need a different panel for each IP. We have not published the page with these plans yet, so if you want to get in on the ground floor, hit me up. We feel our pricing easily competes with the new discount SEO hosts out there, and we will not oversell or offer you a designated amount of storage/bandwidth then suspend your account for actually using it. I can assure you our support easily surpasses that offered by the "competition." I can be reached at ICQ 16 07 54 97 or you can use our contact page for more info. Thanks.

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Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	I would like to point out the downside of so-called SEO hosting. Like a previous poster stated, the days of having huge internally linked networks is long gone - you can cross link all day but if you don't have link juice coming in you're dead in the water. Look at a vector space map of any cross linked network and it stands out like a sore thumb. Trust, authority, and quality link backs going to (apparently) quality domains is the direction that SEO is going, rather than the huge networks of crap of the late 90s and early 00s. I would also point out that anyone (including google) can look up what IP is assigned to what host at ARIN; if your IPs are connected to a host that is known for advertising to people that deliberately want to influence their SE rankings, you are potentially setting yourself up for trouble. The forward thinking SEO has dozens (or hundreds) of virtual accounts at different hosts, providing completely unrelated IPs and a mix of the hosts' and anonymous nameservers. He also quickly writes a custom bot for each host (with copious error management) that plugs into the back end of his management system to abstract the crap work of adding and managing domains. You have to slide under the radar, and sometimes that means putting in a little extra effort.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	Here's a question I've wanted to know and this is a good a place as any to ask it. If I am interlinking my network, should each site be on its own class C? Say 20 sites. Does having them all on the exact same IP devalue the link weight?