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Paul Markham · 11-04-2002, 01:06 PM

Eva has just told me the solution. Get the black guy to stand in the middle where there is the most light.

She also said he's should be in the middle as he's the best looking one.

bawdy · 11-04-2002, 01:16 PM

Charly do you do video?

If so what format do you prefer to shoot on?

Do you think mini-dv is a professional format suitable for porn production?

Paul Markham · 11-04-2002, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by railz
What would you buy for a complete beginner?

What Camera, lights, ect?

Any SLR film camera costing $100-200 and then send him out to shoot anything he likes except nudes for a year.

The last thing he needs to tackle is porn, as a complete beginner. His pictures will be worse than the "amateur" pics he is trying to imitate. These are shot by lovers prior to having sex and the model looks like she is ready.

Not some guy trying to fathom out what is wrong with his camera and showing the model how confused he is. She is thinking "When can I get out of here"

But if you insist, you have to decide digital or film. Then go with something like the Nikon D100 (Digi) or the Cannon EOS3 (Film) for lights you need to work out where you will be shooting. In high rise apartment measuring 12 ft X 10 ft or my studio 2000 sq ft. You will need different power and numbers of lights. For the smaller set up go for 3 heads @ 200 Jules each a bigger set up would need 5 heads @ 600 Jules. You then need light stands, umbrellas, hoods, honeycombs and softlights (it?s a light fitting). Plus a very good light meter that gives you direct light and reflected light.

Then some good books on the basic mechanics of cameras, shooting models, shooting Erotic and lighting techniques. A book on psychology will be useful as well, we do not always end up with the most helpful and brightest girls in the world.

Paul Markham · 11-04-2002, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by bawdy
Charly do you do video?

If so what format do you prefer to shoot on?

Do you think mini-dv is a professional format suitable for porn production?

Yes we do shoot video, but have been concentrating on stills. the videos on the siite sell and people are asking for more, but editing is time consuming and I do not have it. But I may have a solution soon. Watch the site.

What format depends on what you are shooting, Playboy Channel or ButtMan. Middle of the market and lower is fine for Mini DV, but you might want to consider a professional camera $8,000 approx (I think) or at least the Cannon Mini DV I cannot remember the name but around $3,000. You can try it with a $300 camera but remember what the girl is thinking "Bloody tosser, he's just some amateur. Does not even have a proper camera"

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 12:07 AM

Any more questions?

redshift · 11-05-2002, 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Any more questions?

yea!!
how often do you get to bone the models?

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by redshift

yea!!
how often do you get to bone the models?

Not often enough.

redshift · 11-05-2002, 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Not often enough.

Yea right

your just saying that 'cause Eva is reading this

UnseenWorld · 11-05-2002, 01:43 AM

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Originally posted by CeKilleR
is it true that crap designs for freesites work better then high quality ones?

Charly mishandled this one so I'll answer it again: The idea behind a free site is the opposite of a pay site. In a pay site, you want your visitor to stay and join your site. In a free site, you want him to go and join someone else's site. That understood, if you're designing a free site, you want it to be frustrating and ugly so that the visitor says, "Jesus fuckin' Christ, I hate this site...but this banner looks interesting."

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Charly mishandled this one so I'll answer it again: The idea behind a free site is the opposite of a pay site. In a pay site, you want your visitor to stay and join your site. In a free site, you want him to go and join someone else's site. That understood, if you're designing a free site, you want it to be frustrating and ugly so that the visitor says, "Jesus fuckin' Christ, I hate this site...but this banner looks interesting."

Is this right or is he "just pulling our legs"? If I went to a bad site the last thing I would do is hang around to look at the banners.

I thought the idea of a freesite was to get the guys attention, arouse interest enough to make him want to take the action to go to a place you have chosen. This was how I was taught to design a good advert and I think it still works.

Attention
Interest
Desire
Action

Unseen why not take this chance to ask some photography questions, this is something I do know about

Could tell you the correct way to get the soft focus look yoou like and how to control it.

AaronM · 11-05-2002, 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by charly
This is a very tricky one and made even more dificult when using a wide angle lens to get all the beer bellies into the picture.

However there are some simple solutions.

1; Paint him white or use white lipstick around his lips and eyes. this will help to hi-lite him.

2; Failing that you need to get the fat guy to get on his hands and knees (Doggy Style I'm sure he knows the postion) in front of the black dude so the light bounces up.

3; Stop buying those disposable cameras.

LMAO....Nice one bro. You owe me a few drinks for setting that one up for you.

AaronM · 11-05-2002, 09:18 AM

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Originally posted by redshift

Yea right
your just saying that 'cause Eva is reading this

Um..Not so...You clearly do not know what makes Eva tick.

redshift · 11-05-2002, 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Um..Not so...You clearly do not know what makes Eva tick.

Hmmm interesting

SexyMarie · 11-05-2002, 10:44 AM

Hi Charly,

Thanks for all your words of advice

My questions, if you don't mind:

I use digital camera with manual settings and use it's preview screen for checking the lighting - and do some 'test shots' which I upload to the laptop. I thought it is enough but somebody told me that I should use lighting meter anyway...
What is your opinion (lighting meter for digital cam)?

If so... My next question, maybe stupid but i'm curious...

When using a lighting meter do I need an assistant for this or is it OK to ask the model to hold it?

And last question...
What is your opinion on Jan Saudek's coloured photos?

As you are in the Czech Rep you must be familar with his work

thanks,

Marie

TheFLY · 11-05-2002, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by RedShoe
How profitable would a side job of small stock (non-adult) photography be? We have several cameras which include a Bronica Medium format ETRsi, a Nikon F5, and a Sony DSCF-707. All are great cameras, and I've been extrememly pleased with my results.

Now I have ton of pics lying around with no real theme. I'd like to maybe set up a small site selling niche created stock photos. I don't have 1000's of pics per category. (mostly abstract, and some nature stuff) So what I'd like to do is set up to take outdoor shots. Some closeup nature, some landscapes, as well as some abstract shit like close ups of keyboards, monitors, computer parts... for corporate type newsletters... or whatever. But is it worth it? I mean I enjoy taking the photos, but is a small stock photo business like that worth the time to categorize and set up a site and maintain it? I've never done mainstream so I'm not even sure if the marketing is the same.

ask oliver klozov -- hes yer neighbor and i think he could help you in this arena

AaronM · 11-05-2002, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by SexyMarie
Hi Charly,

Thanks for all your words of advice

My questions, if you don't mind:

I use digital camera with manual settings and use it's preview screen for checking the lighting - and do some 'test shots' which I upload to the laptop. I thought it is enough but somebody told me that I should use lighting meter anyway...
What is your opinion (lighting meter for digital cam)?

Charly believes in light meters so much that he even uses them when shooting in night vision mode.

pimplink · 11-05-2002, 10:52 AM

Hey Charly,

I'll take you up on your offer. What is a good but affordable digital camera set up for producing "amateur" style photos along the lines of LightSpeedcash's sites? Based on my experience, highly produced "professional" type pics by outfits like Matrix Content is too "slick" and don't convert as well for me.

I'd appreciate the tips. Thanks in advance

AaronM · 11-05-2002, 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by pimplink
Hey Charly,

I'll take you up on your offer. What is a good but affordable digital camera set up for producing "amateur" style photos along the lines of LightSpeedcash's sites? Based on my experience, highly produced "professional" type pics by outfits like Matrix Content is too "slick" and don't convert as well for me.

I'd appreciate the tips. Thanks in advance

If this is a serious question then you are asking the wrong person. Charly does not produce that type of image. Lightspeed uses the Nikon 900 series digital cameras...At least they used to. Pretty much any $600-$1000 digital camera could produce the same results when in the hands of somebody who knows how to shoot that kind of content. Lightspeed and his crew shoot different than most people because they have a true interest in what they are shooting. The stuff is top notch because of this.

pimplink · 11-05-2002, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by AaronM

If this is a serious question then you are asking the wrong person. Charly does not produce that type of image. Lightspeed uses the Nikon 900 series digital cameras...At least they used to. Pretty much any $600-$1000 digital camera could produce the same results when in the hands of somebody who knows how to shoot that kind of content. Lightspeed and his crew shoot different than most people because they have a true interest in what they are shooting. The stuff is top notch because of this.

Aaron,

Thanks for responding to my question. Please advise re which makes and models of digital camera to look into in the $600 to $1000 price range. Also, any advice re lighting? My connection's looking into indoor shoots only.

Thx,
Jeff

TheFLY · 11-05-2002, 11:07 AM

aaron if you were serious about shooting black n white people together... just run "curves" in photoshop and boost the low values and keep the rest fixed... if yer camera didn't drop out the detail in that range through compression or whatever...

in painting it's always easy to spot an amateur painting from a photograph... cameras tend to drop out the rich colors in dark areas... one of the major benefits of painting a live model

AaronM · 11-05-2002, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by pimplink

Aaron,

Thanks for responding to my question. Please advise re which makes and models of digital camera to look into in the $600 to $1000 price range. Also, any advice re lighting? My connection's looking into indoor shoots only.

Thx,
Jeff

There are several cameras that would work...My personal suggestion is the Canon Powershot G2 or G3.

As for lighting...I am not sure that Lightspeed would want me to give any of their specifics out but I think you could get by with 1 or 2 decent hot lights....oh....and no, a light meter is NOT necessary.

gothweb · 11-05-2002, 11:30 AM

I know where you can get an Olympus E20 for about $850. That's a great camera, from all I have heard, the consumer end of the digital SLR market. I was considering it for quite a while, but decided to hold out for something a little beefier... Until a little while before starting this thread, in fact.

TheFLY · 11-05-2002, 11:33 AM

My opinion on why content sucks ass.

#1 ugly model
#2 artificial light
#3 boring concept

Even if you have no artistic skill, inspiration or training -- if you have a hot model with natural light and a good concept I want your content.

UnseenWorld · 11-05-2002, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by charly
Is this right or is he "just pulling our legs"? If I went to a bad site the last thing I would do is hang around to look at the banners.

I thought the idea of a freesite was to get the guys attention, arouse interest enough to make him want to take the action to go to a place you have chosen. This was how I was taught to design a good advert and I think it still works.

Attention
Interest
Desire
Action

Charly, when someone wants to leave a site, he frequently does so by clicking on a banner or interesting-sounding link. The point is that a free site should not be a place to STAY, because someone is chewing up bandwidth he hasn't paid for and can only pay for if he leaves.

AIDA works for the banners and links on the free site, not the site itself. Once someone comes to the ugly-ass free site, a cute banner or interesting link gets his attention and interest. A desire swells in him to investigate (because the rest of the ugly-ass site isn't crying to be seen), and he takes the action of visiting the sponsor.

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

LMAO....Nice one bro. You owe me a few drinks for setting that one up for you.

You told me you wanted some ice tea consider it done

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by AaronM

Um..Not so...You clearly do not know what makes Eva tick.

And you do??

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SexyMarie
Hi Charly,

Thanks for all your words of advice

My questions, if you don't mind:

I use digital camera with manual settings and use it's preview screen for checking the lighting - and do some 'test shots' which I upload to the laptop. I thought it is enough but somebody told me that I should use lighting meter anyway...
What is your opinion (lighting meter for digital cam)?

If so... My next question, maybe stupid but i'm curious...

When using a lighting meter do I need an assistant for this or is it OK to ask the model to hold it?

And last question...
What is your opinion on Jan Saudek's coloured photos?

As you are in the Czech Rep you must be familar with his work

thanks,

Marie

A good light meter is essential, one that gives you a direct reading from your lights to the subject (taken from where the models are) and one that gives reflected light (taken from where the shooter is standing aimed at the models.

Learn how to use a light meter by testing all the angles so you can meter the different light sources. Put the light meter against the model and take a reading. For flash you need a light meter that registers flashlights.

This will ensure that you get an even distribution of light and hi-lites to seperate the models from the backgrounds. Look at good pictures and see the side/head of the models have the white glow around them.

Check the image on your computer sreen, which should be checked reguarly for light and color. Then open the image in Photooshop and check the "Levels".

Sorry do not know who Jan Saudek is.

Nydahl · 11-05-2002, 01:46 PM

YOU don't know Jan Saudek?Ok never mind -you are in adult biz and I am sure he doesn't know you, but he is worldwide very respected art photographer.....the top

SexyMarie · 11-05-2002, 01:56 PM

Thanks for the info about the light meter

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
Sorry do not know who Jan Saudek is.

Jan Saudek is a contemporary Czech photographer.
He takes black and white pics and then colours them.
Sometimes it's a really strange stuff...

Unfortunately his website http://www.saudek.com/ is not working but you can see some of his work here http://www.ambrosiana.cz/Saudek/Saudek_en.html

dada · 11-05-2002, 01:59 PM

Hi Charlie!

Just wondering,
are you shooting prints, slides, of digital ?
where do you develope prints and slides for porn ?

Cheers

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimplink
Hey Charly,

I'll take you up on your offer. What is a good but affordable digital camera set up for producing "amateur" style photos along the lines of LightSpeedcash's sites? Based on my experience, highly produced "professional" type pics by outfits like Matrix Content is too "slick" and don't convert as well for me.

I'd appreciate the tips. Thanks in advance

For amateur you need speed, you need to catch the moment and keep the models active and "alive".

The problems with some cheaper cameras is they are too slow, they stop to write to the disc. This is frustrating for the photographer and the model. the session starts to slow down and you lose the sponanity of the shoot.

Also remember you can make a good image seem bad easily, but trying to improve a bad image is a lot more dificult.

Fortunately Nikon now have the answer, the new Nikon D100 is affordable and a great camera. If you are on a tight budget get it on lease. Plus with a 500 meg chip you can shoot 400 pics then edit out the bad ones or keep them in.

I said in my opening post that some of my answers will be expensive, I believe in doing things right.

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by SexyMarie
Thanks for the info about the light meter

Jan Saudek is a contemporary Czech photographer.
He takes black and white pics and then colours them.
Sometimes it's a really strange stuff...

Unfortunately his website http://www.saudek.com/ is not working but you can see some of his work here http://www.ambrosiana.cz/Saudek/Saudek_en.html

Now this guy is a good photographer, put's my work to shame

Paul Markham · 11-05-2002, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by dada
Hi Charlie!

Just wondering,
are you shooting prints, slides, of digital ?
where do you develope prints and slides for porn ?

Cheers

We shoot all three types.

Today we did a casting. Shot prints for our models file, digital for the net and slides with the flash on camera for the "Readers Wives" section of a very well known men's magazine. Or did you think all those pics were sent in by the husbands/boyfriends??

Paul Markham · 11-06-2002, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by TheFLY
My opinion on why content sucks ass.

#1 ugly model
#2 artificial light
#3 boring concept

Even if you have no artistic skill, inspiration or training -- if you have a hot model with natural light and a good concept I want your content.

Agreed 101% problem is finding attractive/beautiful girls, they form about 10% of available females 18-25, then getting enough natural light to shoot a set and dreaming up a concept that is dificult.

And to sell a set at $40 perhaps 20 times over a year. Maybe that's why there's so much bad content out there. We can shoot a great set but it costs and there's more money in what we do.

Look at the sets on our site 6000 t0 6012 some are great sets and took a day to shoot. Do they sell better than the teen sets we shoot 3 a day? You create the supply you are willing to pay for.

Well that's it, unless someone can get in quick wiith a question. I'm off to Prague in a couple of hours. Hope some of this has been useful.

AaronM · 11-06-2002, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by charly
And you do??

Only from what you have told me bro.

Mutt · 11-06-2002, 02:26 AM

good thread.

finding enough pretty models is a bitch. everybody keeps telling me that they do better with 'plain Jane' type girls in the amateur market...............how come nobody wants them then? And i'm running through a lot of webmasters, seems to me 90% of webmasters want the cutest girls.

I do have a few new 'average' looking girls if anybody's interested. Blonde, Latina and a redhead.

[email protected]

the indigo · 11-06-2002, 02:29 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Charly, when someone wants to leave a site, he frequently does so by clicking on a banner or interesting-sounding link. The point is that a free site should not be a place to STAY, because someone is chewing up bandwidth he hasn't paid for and can only pay for if he leaves.

AIDA works for the banners and links on the free site, not the site itself. Once someone comes to the ugly-ass free site, a cute banner or interesting link gets his attention and interest. A desire swells in him to investigate (because the rest of the ugly-ass site isn't crying to be seen), and he takes the action of visiting the sponsor.

Hmm... my bet is that you don't make bank on marketing

As a surfer, the first thing I do on an ugly site is hit the back button and go back to the TGP, LL, SE or TL

the indigo · 11-06-2002, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SexyMarie
Thanks for the info about the light meter

Jan Saudek is a contemporary Czech photographer.
He takes black and white pics and then colours them.
Sometimes it's a really strange stuff...

Unfortunately his website http://www.saudek.com/ is not working but you can see some of his work here http://www.ambrosiana.cz/Saudek/Saudek_en.html

Pretty awesome stuff

11-04-2002, 01:06 PM	#51
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11-05-2002, 10:44 AM	#64
SexyMarie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 52	Hi Charly, Thanks for all your words of advice My questions, if you don't mind: I use digital camera with manual settings and use it's preview screen for checking the lighting - and do some 'test shots' which I upload to the laptop. I thought it is enough but somebody told me that I should use lighting meter anyway... What is your opinion (lighting meter for digital cam)? If so... My next question, maybe stupid but i'm curious... When using a lighting meter do I need an assistant for this or is it OK to ask the model to hold it? And last question... What is your opinion on Jan Saudek's coloured photos? As you are in the Czech Rep you must be familar with his work thanks, Marie __________________ Try me - real amateur program, real girl = real money

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bawdy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,424	Charly do you do video? If so what format do you prefer to shoot on? Do you think mini-dv is a professional format suitable for porn production?

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TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	aaron if you were serious about shooting black n white people together... just run "curves" in photoshop and boost the low values and keep the rest fixed... if yer camera didn't drop out the detail in that range through compression or whatever... in painting it's always easy to spot an amateur painting from a photograph... cameras tend to drop out the rich colors in dark areas... one of the major benefits of painting a live model

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TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	My opinion on why content sucks ass. #1 ugly model #2 artificial light #3 boring concept Even if you have no artistic skill, inspiration or training -- if you have a hot model with natural light and a good concept I want your content.

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11-06-2002, 02:26 AM	#86
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	good thread. finding enough pretty models is a bitch. everybody keeps telling me that they do better with 'plain Jane' type girls in the amateur market...............how come nobody wants them then? And i'm running through a lot of webmasters, seems to me 90% of webmasters want the cutest girls. I do have a few new 'average' looking girls if anybody's interested. Blonde, Latina and a redhead. [email protected] __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!