Yet another sign that this election is pretty much in the bag

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  • Mutt
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Sep 2002
    • 34431

    #16
    i would not be counting any chickens before they hatched in this election in particular -
    1)the Bradley Effect and 2)young voters who are overwhelmingly for Obama never get their lazy asses out to vote, they talk a great game on the Net tho
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    • tiger
      Confirmed User
      • Apr 2002
      • 6986

      #17
      I hope its true but under estimating the GOP isn't smart.

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      • Snake Doctor
        I'm Lenny2 Bitch
        • Mar 2001
        • 13449

        #18
        Originally posted by Mutt
        i would not be counting any chickens before they hatched in this election in particular -
        1)the Bradley Effect and 2)young voters who are overwhelmingly for Obama never get their lazy asses out to vote, they talk a great game on the Net tho
        1) The Bradley effect is pretty much urban legend. It's just something they have to talk about on cable news to fill 24 hours.
        http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...lective_m.html

        http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...5653453.column


        2) The young voters are the reason Obama won the nomination, they came out in record numbers. It's hard to imagine a scenario where they would vote for him in the primary and then stay at home for the general.
        Also, I'm sure all of the major pollsters are including variables like turnout in their predictions.

        Look at it this way, the most standard "likely voter" scenario that is standard practice in polling, is to assume the electorate will be the same as it was 4 years ago. 4 years ago was the highest republican turnout in history. (for alot of reasons, but mostly the gay marriage referendums on the ballot in alot of states)
        Even the polls using that model show Obama up overall and up in the battleground states.

        This is going to be a depressed turnout year for republicans and a record turnout year for democrats.


        It wouldn't be right for Obama/Biden or any of their surrogates to start dancing in the streets now, you guys are right about that. I, however, can dance all I want....just like when I said the primary was pretty much over after Texas and Ohio, and I was right about that......alot of folks were trying to spin scenarios of how Hillary could win, but it really was over.
        At that point Hillary couldn't catch up in delegates.

        At this point in the general, there are no more debates, conventions, VP picks, or anything left really to shift the momentum. McCain is way behind in the polls and almost out of resources, while Obama is starting to advertise in some very red states, has bought a half hour on the networks Wednesday night, and I can't imagine a scenario where that doesn't help him in the polls, because he's very telegenic and a gifted orator.....and he'll be saturating the airwaves in all of the battleground states from now until election day because he has pretty much unlimited funds to do so.
        Just think about the term "battleground state", that used to mean Florida, Ohio, and Michigan. (purple states) Now McCain has to play defense in North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Missouri (red states). It's getting really ugly for the republicans at this point.

        Something outside of McCain's control could happen (terrorist attack, Russia invades Georgia for real, Iran invades Iraq, etc) but those things have a fraction of a percent chance of happening, and even then it's not guaranteed that they would help him, what with Colin Powell rumored to be endorsing Obama this weekend and beefing up his foreign policy/national security bona fides even more.
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        • DaddyHalbucks
          A freakin' legend!
          • Feb 2004
          • 18975

          #19
          Every scumbag on the planet is backing Obama.

          The outcome for our country looks bleak.

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          • fris
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Aug 2002
            • 55679

            #20
            Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
            Every scumbag on the planet is backing Obama.

            The outcome for our country looks bleak.

            You would rather have mcsane?

            The guy is a nut, and is GW's twin when it comes to policy, hes gonna die in office, they are gonna have to prop him up like weekend at bernies.

            Plus im sure everyones heard enough of him crying about his war record.
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            • mikeyddddd
              Viva la vulva!
              • Mar 2003
              • 16557

              #21
              Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
              Every scumbag on the planet is backing Obama.

              The outcome for our country looks bleak.

              The father of a friend of mine is a retired Navy officer.

              He said that if McCain is elected then the United Sates is done. He thinks McCain will complete the job Bush has begun in destorying the economy, military, integrity and respect of the US.

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              • cherrylula
                lol
                • Jan 2002
                • 15969

                #22
                better hope they are tuning up the voting machines...

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                • pornask
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 6518

                  #23
                  If you look at Odrama?s major sponsors, you?ll see he has a full list of bankers and other behind the scenes elite that wants to control the world. They are the ones who decide who?s gonna be in the office. They control all voting stations and all electronic voting machines. Odrama has long been chosen because he?s the most corrupt and evil of them all, plus he?s the easiest to buy. They wouldn?t be able to buy people like Ron Paul who was sincere about helping the country and the people. Hence he was booted out of the race early on. Without illuminati influence, antichrist Odrama would never get this far. So yeah, the election has been in the bag long ago. Reports from the media controlled by the elite are also purposefully manufactured in such a way so dumb ones believe Odrama won presidential debates and is the messiah. And the dumb ones ate it with the shoes on.

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                  • RobertD
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2001
                    • 1149

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Snake Doctor
                    2) The young voters are the reason Obama won the nomination, they came out in record numbers.
                    Something like 1/3 of 18 - 24 don't even have landlines in their homes, just cellphones. Those additional Obama supporters don't show up in poll numbers.
                    Last edited by RobertD; 10-18-2008, 10:26 AM. Reason: broken quote
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                    • pocketkangaroo
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 8452

                      #25
                      You guys have to factor in early voting too. Even if McCain catches up, early voting has dug him a hole that's awfully tough to get out of. It'll take a major event to change this election. As someone on TV said the other day, outside of Bin Laden being caught with a cell phone with Obama's number on speed dial, this race is over.

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                      • pornask
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 6518

                        #26
                        Originally posted by pocketkangaroo
                        outside of Bin Laden being caught with a cell phone with Obama's number on speed dial, this race is over.
                        I'm sure Obama took all necessary precautions and explained his good buddy Osama that he can't be calling him until the election's over.

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                        • tranza
                          ICQ: 197-556-237
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 57559

                          #27
                          Yep, I agree. This one is pretty much in the bag.

                          I'm just a newbie.

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                          • Verbal
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 3420

                            #28
                            Originally posted by baddog
                            That had to be pretty disheartening.
                            Nah, not really a baseball fan, but it goes to show. I think if that if young voters get the idea that it's 'in the bag', then they might not feel the need to go out and vote. If that's the case, it will be a lot closer than what people are expecting.

                            All I'm saying is that it would be a big mistake to take your foot off the gas at this point.

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                            • escorpio
                              I love to racism, bro!
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 23487

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Verbal
                              Nah, not really a baseball fan, but it goes to show. I think if that if young voters get the idea that it's 'in the bag', then they might not feel the need to go out and vote. If that's the case, it will be a lot closer than what people are expecting.

                              All I'm saying is that it would be a big mistake to take your foot off the gas at this point.
                              Don't listen to this guy, Obamaniacs. Your boy has already won. No need to go out and vote on election day, just stay home and wait for the change.
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                              • AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE
                                best designer on GFY
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 30307

                                #30
                                After 8 years of definitive failure after failure and compounded epic failure by Republicans you got to be a complete fucking idiot and deusch bag to even consider voting Republican this election year.

                                There are some kids around here breaking McCain posters on peoples front yards and I applauded them last night. I live in a really conservative part of California probably the only Conservative bastion left in California and it's stunning to see many front yards with McCaine posters on them.

                                It proves how fucking retarded people are on the Conservative side.

                                Dispite the last 8 years, the over 1 Million Iraqi's dead, the number of American soldier's dead, the illegal wire tapping, the utter destruction of the economy, the rampant healthcare problem in America there are quite simply some really fucking dumb ignorant and retarded American voters out there that will click the McCain button...

                                I goto question if them people even have a right to breath anymore while being just fortunate enough to even remember taking a breath.
                                They disgust me and are dismissed as the dumbest of the dumb in the world.
                                Last edited by AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE; 10-18-2008, 11:17 AM.

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