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420palace · 10-31-2002, 06:29 PM

Any one know any good companies that some one can pay to get them a high ranking in Google? I know there is a bunch of search engine submission companies out there, but most of them just do basic shit that any one can do. Im wondering if there is a company, that would probably charge a good amount, but will guarantee a top 10 ranking in google? thanks

Nysus · 10-31-2002, 06:33 PM

It can be done, and yes it does cost good money, because it takes a lot of time. You probably couldn't expect a return for quite a while.

I know some people, or maybe I could help you out. Send me a message. ICQ 129060301, or email matt @ nysus.com

Cheers,
Matt

Mario11779 · 10-31-2002, 06:33 PM

I was just down that road. If you find someone who will guarantee anything to an adult site, let me know. Most companies won't work with adult, and the ones that do won't guarantee anything because there is too much competition for the rankings. Most are very pricey too..

Good Luck.

Pornwolf · 10-31-2002, 06:38 PM

I doubt anyone can guarantee high rankings in adult or any other high competition field right now. There's a lot of big companies that are mad about their rankings since the recent changes.

Mario11779 · 10-31-2002, 06:40 PM

It is a relatively easy science when it comes to keywords that are not sought after like certain adult ones. I have encountered a couple of companies that offer a money back guarantee for a top 10 or 20 placement, but they will not offer it to adult.

Google is your bitch huh? Wanna share her?

Pornwolf · 10-31-2002, 06:41 PM

Sorry, I got some more fuckin' to do.

frankfortuna · 10-31-2002, 06:41 PM

Are you prepared / willing to make changes to your existing site? To rank well for the keywords I suspect you will want, a fair amount of content will need to be added to your site.

Mario11779 · 10-31-2002, 06:43 PM

Content (text) is king as far as google goes...

420palace · 10-31-2002, 06:52 PM

so do you guys think that content is more important for google than, link popularity?

Mario11779 · 10-31-2002, 06:59 PM

Of course its gotta be a combination of the two and many other factors. Too bad those bastards won't release any specific info on their algorithm. From what I know (and sometimes that ain't much), if a site has no content, or useless content, or content that is not relevant to a keyword, links won't do much for the PR. I have learned from some pretty good SEO's that you should start by building content pages and then work on linking strategies. But who knows?

google

frankfortuna · 10-31-2002, 07:00 PM

Link popularity to enhance PR is only one part of the formula. You could have all the PR in the world, but it is meaningless without targeted content that contains the keywords / phrases you wish to optimize for.

Civic3D · 10-31-2002, 07:03 PM

Text in your site is good

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frankfortuna · 10-31-2002, 07:06 PM

By the way, how is the ROI with your Overture campaign?

420palace · 10-31-2002, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Civic3D
Text in your site is good

Best Paying Sponsors: You can Make $$$ Here !!
Adultplatinum.com - $40 / Signup Best Ratio
Topbucks.com $35-40 Per Signup ** Hot **
Freeticketcash.com - $1 per Email It's better than lottery

Yeah but the top sites for the keyword "bongs" are some bullshit uk sites that dont even apply to the US market. Thats what's pissing me off. Our text on the site is good and link popularity is pretty good, but we are like number 139 under that key term.
Any ideas?

420palace · 10-31-2002, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna
By the way, how is the ROI with your Overture campaign?

ROI is pretty good, but the competition is so high that I am paying up to 50 cents a click on some terms. Pisses me off.

frankfortuna · 10-31-2002, 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 420palace

ROI is pretty good, but the competition is so high that I am paying up to 50 cents a click on some terms. Pisses me off.

Overture is getting out of hand in many categories. I suspect the bidding aspect brings out the worst in compulsive types.

http://www.overture.com/d/search/?ty...eywords=casino

If you truly want some assistnace, we work with someone who has excellent credentials that can help. If you care to, email me a brief list of things you would like to achieve and I'll pass it along k @ pmpn8ez.com.

420palace · 11-03-2002, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by frankfortuna

Overture is getting out of hand in many categories. I suspect the bidding aspect brings out the worst in compulsive types.

http://www.overture.com/d/search/?ty...eywords=casino

If you truly want some assistnace, we work with someone who has excellent credentials that can help. If you care to, email me a brief list of things you would like to achieve and I'll pass it along k @ pmpn8ez.com.

Thanks frankfortuna, ill email you about the site optimization.. about overture... does any one think its worth it paying 50 cents a clik even if its not worth the ROI , but just to make sure your competitors dont get the customers you couldve had?

fiveyes · 11-03-2002, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 420palace

Yeah but the top sites for the keyword "bongs" are some bullshit uk sites that dont even apply to the US market. Thats what's pissing me off. Our text on the site is good and link popularity is pretty good, but we are like number 139 under that key term.
Any ideas?

Not so about the text on your site being good. At http://www.420palace.com/index.php, you do not have "bong" anywhere within the text, only in the meta tags, which is barely glanced at by the search engine spiders any more, and title.

Look at the page being pointed at on the #1 spot on Yahoo Search- http://www.drbongs.com/ and check the center section; it's a classic sample of keyword rich text that is paying off.

My suggestion would be to add three or more paragraphs to your page and sprinkle them liberally with those terms that you want to rank within. Hell, forget 3 paragraphs, there's no such thing as too much text! Write a sales letter and detail what you're offering and why the visitor should buy from you. Move some of your testomonials to that front page too, especially the ones that are rich in keywords.

And use the keywords in the links too, it'll add weight to the usage. I doubt anyone is searching for "ABSOLUT MYSTERY", change the link to "ABSOLUT MYSTERY BONG" or "ABSOLUT MYSTERY WATER PIPE".

A lot of images on that page and none of them have ALT Tags, which is another place that keywords can be used, though not with as much weight as the text and link text.

Also, use keywords in file names (ie. instead of "faq.php", call it "bongs-faq.php") and directory names. Even better is in the domain name itself (hyphens are good for search engines, btw).

It's just a matter of using the key words within the structure of the site as creatively as possible. And, to avoid being flagged as a keyword spammer, keep the density of the usage of each keyword to about 2-5% of the total text and don't try to hide the text.

Ted · 11-03-2002, 11:25 PM

I think I'm in the wrong biz

overture top bids
casino $15.00
sex 14 cents
porn 23 cents

xxxjay · 11-04-2002, 12:33 AM

I've found a good way to get high ranks on Google is to trade links with sites on other networks. Front page links (not to trade traffic - just pr) buried at the bottom acomplishes this well.

Google just re-indexed and I came out real well on it:
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...nt&q=xxx+links

If you have a PR 4 site or higher and would like to trade links - hit me on icq at 62835707.

NickB. · 11-04-2002, 01:17 AM

o LOT of webmasters sell their search engine traffic on a pay-per-click-base, It's A NO CURE NO PAY deal :-) Only your own url will not be listed, but the webmasters' url redirecting the traffic to someone elses.....

I'm looking into doing the same, I'll keep you informed

Mutt · 11-04-2002, 01:50 AM

casino clicks @ $15

i still can't believe there is ONE idiot in this world let alone tens of thousands who actually willingly give money to an online casino located in some third world banana republic.

They are a 1000 times sleazier than Net porners. At least Net porners have established an industry where a fair buck is paid for
traffic or signups. Still waiting for a casino that runs a halfway honest affiliate program.

If those fuckers would pay what's owed running a mainstream site might actually pay off.

Arggggh.

If i found out my mom was playing poker at an online casino I'd have her committed to a mental hospital. I say my mom because I really don't know anybody younger than 50 who is that naive that they would gamble online.

Sports betting even worse. I know tons of people who've been shafted by the fuckers.

I still don't know how or where these people get credit card processing. What bank says 'yeah that sounds like a good risk, let's give the two fat guys from Brooklyn with the casino registered in Ooga Booga a merchant account'?

I see all these processors like NetTeller, Firepay etc on gambling sites? What's up with them? Are they third party processors or what?

Jamie · 11-04-2002, 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxjay
I've found a good way to get high ranks on Google is to trade links with sites on other networks. Front page links (not to trade traffic - just pr) buried at the bottom acomplishes this well.

Google just re-indexed and I came out real well on it:
http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...nt&q=xxx+links

If you have a PR 4 site or higher and would like to trade links - hit me on icq at 62835707.

"XXX links" is searched for 1945 times a month good job.

WiredGuy · 11-04-2002, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ted
I think I'm in the wrong biz

overture top bids
casino $15.00
sex 14 cents
porn 23 cents

Not really. Can you afford say 1000 clicks? Got a $15,000 USD budget to play with? I've been in this game for over 2 years and I barely have touched PPC with casinos, you need a huge budget to even consider it. Master Adult PPC marketing, then move on to bigger ponds.

WG

Jamie · 11-04-2002, 01:59 AM

Anyone who is making money off of google isn't going to tell you how to do it. PERIOD. Why do we need you're sorry ass as competition?

I for one have 1000+ search listings on google that are top 10. And no I'm not going to tell you how, so go away.

I will tell you however that google is a cash cow if you're smart. Especially since Yahoo is now showing google results. If you get a nice position on Google it's pretty much going to show up on Yahoo.

WiredGuy · 11-04-2002, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamie
Anyone who is making money off of google isn't going to tell you how to do it. PERIOD. Why do we need you're sorry ass as competition?

I for one have 1000+ search listings on google that are top 10. And no I'm not going to tell you how, so go away.

I will tell you however that google is a cash cow if you're smart. Especially since Yahoo is now showing google results. If you get a nice position on Google it's pretty much going to show up on Yahoo.

Got any high ranking domains your willing to sell?

WG

Jamie · 11-04-2002, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy

Got any high ranking domains your willing to sell?

WG

No, I don't.

We make too much money to sell out.

WiredGuy · 11-04-2002, 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jamie

No, I don't.

We make too much money to sell out.

Fair response, I have the same position.
WG

420palace · 11-04-2002, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fiveyes

Not so about the text on your site being good. At http://www.420palace.com/index.php, you do not have "bong" anywhere within the text, only in the meta tags, which is barely glanced at by the search engine spiders any more, and title.

Look at the page being pointed at on the #1 spot on Yahoo Search- http://www.drbongs.com/ and check the center section; it's a classic sample of keyword rich text that is paying off.

My suggestion would be to add three or more paragraphs to your page and sprinkle them liberally with those terms that you want to rank within. Hell, forget 3 paragraphs, there's no such thing as too much text! Write a sales letter and detail what you're offering and why the visitor should buy from you. Move some of your testomonials to that front page too, especially the ones that are rich in keywords.

And use the keywords in the links too, it'll add weight to the usage. I doubt anyone is searching for "ABSOLUT MYSTERY", change the link to "ABSOLUT MYSTERY BONG" or "ABSOLUT MYSTERY WATER PIPE".

A lot of images on that page and none of them have ALT Tags, which is another place that keywords can be used, though not with as much weight as the text and link text.

Also, use keywords in file names (ie. instead of "faq.php", call it "bongs-faq.php") and directory names. Even better is in the domain name itself (hyphens are good for search engines, btw).

It's just a matter of using the key words within the structure of the site as creatively as possible. And, to avoid being flagged as a keyword spammer, keep the density of the usage of each keyword to about 2-5% of the total text and don't try to hide the text.

Thanks fiveyes,
great advice, i appreciate it, will get to work on it right away.. Alex

10-31-2002, 06:38 PM	#4
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	I doubt anyone can guarantee high rankings in adult or any other high competition field right now. There's a lot of big companies that are mad about their rankings since the recent changes. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-31-2002, 06:41 PM	#6
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Sorry, I got some more fuckin' to do. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-31-2002, 06:41 PM	#7
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	Are you prepared / willing to make changes to your existing site? To rank well for the keywords I suspect you will want, a fair amount of content will need to be added to your site. Last edited by frankfortuna; 10-31-2002 at 06:44 PM..

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420palace Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: www.420palace.com Posts: 163	so do you guys think that content is more important for google than, link popularity? __________________ <IFRAME frameBorder=0 height=60 width=120 scrolling=no src="http://www.420palace.com/sig/sig.html"> </IFRAME><br>

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xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	I've found a good way to get high ranks on Google is to trade links with sites on other networks. Front page links (not to trade traffic - just pr) buried at the bottom acomplishes this well. Google just re-indexed and I came out real well on it: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...nt&q=xxx+links If you have a PR 4 site or higher and would like to trade links - hit me on icq at 62835707. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

10-31-2002, 06:29 PM	#1
420palace Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: www.420palace.com Posts: 163	High ranking on Google Any one know any good companies that some one can pay to get them a high ranking in Google? I know there is a bunch of search engine submission companies out there, but most of them just do basic shit that any one can do. Im wondering if there is a company, that would probably charge a good amount, but will guarantee a top 10 ranking in google? thanks __________________ <IFRAME frameBorder=0 height=60 width=120 scrolling=no src="http://www.420palace.com/sig/sig.html"> </IFRAME><br>

10-31-2002, 06:33 PM	#2
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	It can be done, and yes it does cost good money, because it takes a lot of time. You probably couldn't expect a return for quite a while. I know some people, or maybe I could help you out. Send me a message. ICQ 129060301, or email matt @ nysus.com Cheers, Matt

10-31-2002, 06:33 PM	#3
Mario11779 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 45	I was just down that road. If you find someone who will guarantee anything to an adult site, let me know. Most companies won't work with adult, and the ones that do won't guarantee anything because there is too much competition for the rankings. Most are very pricey too.. Good Luck.

10-31-2002, 06:40 PM	#5
Mario11779 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 45	It is a relatively easy science when it comes to keywords that are not sought after like certain adult ones. I have encountered a couple of companies that offer a money back guarantee for a top 10 or 20 placement, but they will not offer it to adult. Google is your bitch huh? Wanna share her?

10-31-2002, 06:43 PM	#8
Mario11779 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 45	Content (text) is king as far as google goes...

10-31-2002, 06:59 PM	#10
Mario11779 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 45	Of course its gotta be a combination of the two and many other factors. Too bad those bastards won't release any specific info on their algorithm. From what I know (and sometimes that ain't much), if a site has no content, or useless content, or content that is not relevant to a keyword, links won't do much for the PR. I have learned from some pretty good SEO's that you should start by building content pages and then work on linking strategies. But who knows? google

10-31-2002, 07:00 PM	#11
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	Link popularity to enhance PR is only one part of the formula. You could have all the PR in the world, but it is meaningless without targeted content that contains the keywords / phrases you wish to optimize for.

10-31-2002, 07:03 PM	#12
Civic3D Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Bkk Posts: 177	Text in your site is good Best Paying Sponsors: You can Make $$$ Here !! Adultplatinum.com - $40 / Signup Best Ratio Topbucks.com $35-40 Per Signup Hot Freeticketcash.com - $1 per Email It's better than lottery

10-31-2002, 07:06 PM	#13
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	By the way, how is the ROI with your Overture campaign?

11-03-2002, 11:25 PM	#19
Ted Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 830	I think I'm in the wrong biz overture top bids casino $15.00 sex 14 cents porn 23 cents

11-04-2002, 01:17 AM	#21
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	o LOT of webmasters sell their search engine traffic on a pay-per-click-base, It's A NO CURE NO PAY deal :-) Only your own url will not be listed, but the webmasters' url redirecting the traffic to someone elses..... I'm looking into doing the same, I'll keep you informed

11-04-2002, 01:50 AM	#22
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	casino clicks @ $15 i still can't believe there is ONE idiot in this world let alone tens of thousands who actually willingly give money to an online casino located in some third world banana republic. They are a 1000 times sleazier than Net porners. At least Net porners have established an industry where a fair buck is paid for traffic or signups. Still waiting for a casino that runs a halfway honest affiliate program. If those fuckers would pay what's owed running a mainstream site might actually pay off. Arggggh. If i found out my mom was playing poker at an online casino I'd have her committed to a mental hospital. I say my mom because I really don't know anybody younger than 50 who is that naive that they would gamble online. Sports betting even worse. I know tons of people who've been shafted by the fuckers. I still don't know how or where these people get credit card processing. What bank says 'yeah that sounds like a good risk, let's give the two fat guys from Brooklyn with the casino registered in Ooga Booga a merchant account'? I see all these processors like NetTeller, Firepay etc on gambling sites? What's up with them? Are they third party processors or what? __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

11-04-2002, 01:59 AM	#25
Jamie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CelebPay.com Posts: 2,517	Anyone who is making money off of google isn't going to tell you how to do it. PERIOD. Why do we need you're sorry ass as competition? I for one have 1000+ search listings on google that are top 10. And no I'm not going to tell you how, so go away. I will tell you however that google is a cash cow if you're smart. Especially since Yahoo is now showing google results. If you get a nice position on Google it's pretty much going to show up on Yahoo. __________________ CelebPay: Promote Celebrity Reviews i/c/q - :1851935