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Old 10-14-2008, 10:14 AM   #51
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I fuckin hate rap and hip hop with a passion. But I can actually listen to Eminem and old school stuff like sugar hill gang only.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:29 AM   #52
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I fuckin hate rap and hip hop with a passion. But I can actually listen to Eminem and old school stuff like sugar hill gang only.
Rap and Hip Hop? Rap is Hip Hop. Well, one element of Hip Hop. There's no separating the two, lol.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:55 AM   #53
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Exactly. Eminem was successful because he sucked major dick for Interscope and was given attention by Dr Dre.

Go listen to JMT. Check the video that JamesK posted. You faggots need to be educated.

Even R A the Rugged Man is doper than Eminem.






These people that voted for Eminem probably spend more time watching MTV then actually listening to real hip hop.
My favorite part of this video was when he beat himself to death with a shovel.
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Old 10-14-2008, 11:56 AM   #54
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:02 PM   #55
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Look... if a motherfucker can rap and nobody knows him... then how the fuck can he ever be considered the best rapper alive???

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So lets just put it like this... NONE of you know the best rapper alive. But I do and so do my 5 friends. His name is FuckLogic. Hes a bum and lives behind a trash bin in hollywood. But I swear daaawg, hes the best rapper alive. my friends say it too. nothing youve ever heard on record is as good as this guys freestyle. And just because im the only one that knows him dosnt mean hes NOT the best rapper alive. /extremist backpacker logic


that shit dosnt make sense mofos. pull ur backpacks over your faces and find a different song to sing.
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:07 PM   #56
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where do I cast my vote? I love Eminem!
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:13 PM   #57
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BTW, I personally love Cage of the DefJux and think he can give Em a run for his money. But what I understand that most of you dont is, Cage could never be the best rapper alive! Fuckin 1,518 people know him!! how the fuck can he be the best rapper alive? lollllll

another thing, if Eminem never made it and stayed underground, all you underground heads would still be suckin his dick and calling him the best lyricist ever
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:19 PM   #58
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Look... if a motherfucker can rap and nobody knows him... then how the fuck can he ever be considered the best rapper alive???
That's true, but some of the artists are very popular in the underground scene, yet their clips are never on MTV.

I can't blame MTV though... why? Real hip hop is too brutal or serious. You see, nowadays people only want to hear a nice tune. If it has a message, that's a bonus... but as long as it has a nice tune. Generally people want to hear stupid stuff like 50 Cent, Lil Scrappy, Jeezy, Joc, Ying Yang Twins or whatever their fucking names are. Songs where people only moan and brabble bullshit, or rap about thug life bs. That kind of music is more appropriate in clubs for chicks to get wasted and shake their booties on.

Fame doesn't have much to do with skills when it comes to hip hop. And if you think Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique & Apathy are unknown, I'd say you haven't really been involved with the underground culture.
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:20 PM   #59
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another thing, if Eminem never made it and stayed underground, all you underground heads would still be suckin his dick and calling him the best lyricist ever
You're 100% right on that. That's because if he stayed underground he wouldn't be making shit songs for commercial success.
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:30 PM   #60
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That's true, but some of the artists are very popular in the underground scene, yet their clips are never on MTV.

I can't blame MTV though... why? Real hip hop is too brutal or serious. You see, nowadays people only want to hear a nice tune. If it has a message, that's a bonus... but as long as it has a nice tune. Generally people want to hear stupid stuff like 50 Cent, Lil Scrappy, Jeezy, Joc, Ying Yang Twins or whatever their fucking names are. Songs where people only moan and brabble bullshit, or rap about thug life bs. That kind of music is more appropriate in clubs for chicks to get wasted and shake their booties on.

Fame doesn't have much to do with skills when it comes to hip hop. And if you think Jedi Mind Tricks, Immortal Technique & Apathy are unknown, I'd say you haven't really been involved with the underground culture.
I love how you undies always call it "real hip hop" as if a small group of hoodie rockin lyric analyzers make that call.

I hate 90% of the shit thats on the radio/mtv. I just dont feel it. And im not saying underground rap is bad, I listen to El-P, RJD2, Cage, Anticon records and Ive been a Jedi fan since back when they were on Superegular.

Underground hiphop i have no problem with (aside form the fools that make a career out of dissing mainstread hiphop). The problem is the underground fans... the ones who think they are better then everyone else cus they can name shit no ones heard of, the ones who clown someone cus they listen to something thats on the radio, the ones that diss their favorite rapper cus they went mainstream cus they are tired of living in their moms basement and eating roach covered hot pockets, the ones that think they are cool cus they can name 2 more underground acts then the next guy. bla bla bla.


still the point stands. how can someone be the best rapper alive if not even 1% of music fans know they exist???

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You're 100% right on that. That's because if he stayed underground he wouldn't be making shit songs for commercial success.
So fuck change, keep making the same ol shit talkin about the same ol shit in the same ol style. Lets not step it up a notch. Lets pretend we're battling the neighbor when we write our songs, ALWAYS. Or diss something in mainstream. I dont buy it James
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Old 10-14-2008, 03:51 PM   #61
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The problem is the underground fans... the ones who think they are better then everyone else cus they can name shit no ones heard of, the ones who clown someone cus they listen to something thats on the radio, the ones that diss their favorite rapper cus they went mainstream cus they are tired of living in their moms basement and eating roach covered hot pockets, the ones that think they are cool cus they can name 2 more underground acts then the next guy. bla bla bla.


I agree on some points with ya man, and on some I don't. Anyway I won't go into this any further, 'cause I have a shitload of work to do and this discussion is endless as we both have a different view on the genre.
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Old 10-14-2008, 05:40 PM   #62
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Exactly. Eminem was successful because he sucked major dick for Interscope and was given attention by Dr Dre.

Go listen to JMT. Check the video that JamesK posted. You faggots need to be educated.

Even R A the Rugged Man is doper than Eminem.




These people that voted for Eminem probably spend more time watching MTV then actually listening to real hip hop.
RA the rugged man? give me a break. guy has the worst monotone voice and cant flow for shit. i think you need to expand your variety of music and give up the "any rapper or album that sells a lot of copies is garbage". you're about as ignorant as the idiots that thing eminem is the best and only rapper in the game.

the funny thing about backpackers is they spend more time bitching about commercial rappers and pretending that their knowledge and taste in rap is superior to everyone else than they do listening to and giving new music a chance.
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Old 10-14-2008, 05:46 PM   #63
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BTW, I personally love Cage of the DefJux and think he can give Em a run for his money. But what I understand that most of you dont is, Cage could never be the best rapper alive! Fuckin 1,518 people know him!! how the fuck can he be the best rapper alive? lollllll

another thing, if Eminem never made it and stayed underground, all you underground heads would still be suckin his dick and calling him the best lyricist ever
i totally agree, cage is an amazing rapper and i would have to say i have and like every one of his albums. the problem with most of these guys is that when a shitty underground rapper comes out and all he has going for him is multi syllable rhymes and a lot of good punch lines they will worship the ground he walks on, and theres way too much more than that to be a talented musician.
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Old 10-14-2008, 09:10 PM   #64
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I don't know about best.. but hes up there
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This is one of the best new rap out... so what if he made a Disney movie? My vote goes to ICE CUBE point blank period the end ... yeah Rakim but can we hear about some of the things going on now, besides money and bitches ? Things are kind of fucked up did you notice for awhile now ... not only rap but everything. Where is the anger for the last 8 years? Maybe I'm missing some things ... wait money and bitches ? merry christmas

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This is one of the best new rap out... so what if he made a Disney movie? My vote goes to ICE CUBE point blank period the end ... yeah Rakim but can we hear about some of the things going on now, besides money and bitches ? Things are kind of fucked up did you notice for awhile now ... not only rap but everything. Where is the anger for the last 8 years? Maybe I'm missing some things ... wait money and bitches ? merry christmas

ice cube fell off for several albums, that new song is really good though. i got the album and there was still a lot of garbage on it, but that song reminds me of old school cube.
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Old 10-14-2008, 10:27 PM   #67
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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WI7Z6W2kp1Q < ----- the birth of rap hippies .... thank you.


Hey, anybody remember those two dudes? One guy had a cane. The other guy was kind of fat. I think they were jewish. they made a song about "dissin" vanilla ice most likely shown on MTV raps. I can't think of the song or their names ... old school 80's. But I think Ruggid man listened to them alot !
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Old 10-15-2008, 02:01 AM   #68
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wow what ever happened to his other girl before coco. she had some ASS too !
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