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Splum · 10-09-2008, 02:01 PM

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

pocketkangaroo · 10-09-2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

Too late, Bush has already done it. AIG, Bear Stearns, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae.

By the time Obama takes office, there is nothing left to socialize. The Republicans beat them to the punch.

StuartD · 10-09-2008, 02:04 PM

I'm not sure where people are getting that, especially so soon after McCain talks about having the government take over people's mortgages, take over the Wall Street companies and so forth.

Having universal health care doesn't not immediately mean you're a socialist country.

The US borrows more than it can pay back just so that they don't have to raise taxes as much as many other countries do that don't borrow so much. And it's afraid of universal health care?

_Richard_ · 10-09-2008, 02:11 PM

banks are already being bought.. not sure what's so new

tony286 · 10-09-2008, 02:13 PM

Yeah its going to be obama. lol Well considering we are paying for all the fucking finance screw ups. It would be nice to get some free health care out of the deal.

spanky part 2 · 10-09-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

Good, because we need a total change from the fuck ups that are in office now.

Ethersync · 10-09-2008, 02:14 PM

Funny. It's McCain that wants Uncle Sam to buy your bad mortgage and Obama said no to the idea...

Fletch XXX · 10-09-2008, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

John McCain voted to "buy up all those bad loans" and "rescue banks" not "bail them out."

get your facts together kid.

montel · 10-09-2008, 02:17 PM

if you want to see socialism, look no further than what is happening right now with the "bail outs". how can you say this about obama when it IS ALREADY HAPPENING UNDER THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT?

why is it that people still think the republicans are small government when they have consistently increased spending and the size of government since Reagan? if the republicans actually did what they said they were going to do, i would support them.

yes, perhaps obama will intervene in markets etc. yes this sucks and is socialism... but at least he isnt going to pretend to be a small government/fiscal conservative (like bush and reagan pretended).

SoloGirlsContent · 10-09-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Too late, Bush has already done it. AIG, Bear Stearns, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae.

By the time Obama takes office, there is nothing left to socialize. The Republicans beat them to the punch.

montel · 10-09-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

John McCain voted to "buy up all those bad loans" and "rescue banks" not "bail them out."

get your facts together kid.

so we are trying to work out if his actions are socialist (eg. government intervention in markets). in that context, how are the above any different? in all cases the government is buying private assets to "save" organisations/people. as for "rescue banks" this could mean anything.

borked · 10-09-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

Wtf would you know about what a socialistic life means? Beside it being spoon fed by your media outlets like fox et al? pfffft. Come back with a better argument, when you have one.

pornguy · 10-09-2008, 02:20 PM

I dont understand whats so fucking hard about having universal health care. Do what they do in cuba.

You graduate as a Doctor, your first two years are spent working for the government taking care of " the people ". After that you can do what you like.

Why not do the same with Doctors in the US. Simpley they MUST put in 20 hours per week in assigned clinics/hospitals at no charge.

SoloGirlsContent · 10-09-2008, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by montel

if you want to see socialism, look no further than what is happening right now with the "bail outs". how can you say this about obama when it IS ALREADY HAPPENING UNDER THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT?

why is it that people still think the republicans are small government when they have consistently increased spending and the size of government since Reagan? if the republicans actually did what they said they were going to do, i would support them.

yes, perhaps obama will intervene in markets etc. yes this sucks and is socialism... but at least he isnt going to pretend to be a small government/fiscal conservative (like bush and reagan pretended).

again

BlackCrayon · 10-09-2008, 02:20 PM

DO you consider canada socialist? Either way, when the economy is in the shitter people want more support. Just because we are doing fine, doesn't mean the rest should be left out in the cold.

collegeboobies · 10-09-2008, 02:21 PM

Fact: We already have socialism for the rich.

BradM · 10-09-2008, 02:23 PM

Fact: Splum is one of the dumbest most racist ignorant pieces of shit I've ever seen anywhere.

borked · 10-09-2008, 02:24 PM

I'm actually willing to bet that 99.5% of all US people on this board actually have no idea what life in a socialist country is like.... they just have this idea that has been spoon fed them that socialism == bad, capitilism == good. maybe from school?

2012 · 10-09-2008, 02:24 PM

notoldschool · 10-09-2008, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

Yeah its going to be obama. lol Well considering we are paying for all the fucking finance screw ups. It would be nice to get some free health care out of the deal.

exactly. Fuckin morons scream Obama is a socialist. What the GOP at this point is far worse than a socialist.

aico · 10-09-2008, 02:26 PM

You're an idiot, do you even read the fucking newspaper?

Fletch XXX · 10-09-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by montel

so we are trying to work out if his actions are socialist (eg. government intervention in markets). in that context, how are the above any different? in all cases the government is buying private assets to "save" organisations/people. as for "rescue banks" this could mean anything.

in regards to "rescue" vs "bailout"

i was using Mccains words against him. He corrected a question asker in the second presidential debate for calling it a bailout, mccain said, "i dont call it a bailout, i call it a rescue"

as for whether it is socialist or not, by definition, I suppose.

http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/co.../cr091002b.htm

montel · 10-09-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

in regards to "rescue" vs "bailout"

i was using Mccains words against him. He corrected a question asker in the second presidential debate for calling it a bailout, mccain said, "i dont call it a bailout, i call it a rescue"

as for whether it is socialist or not, by definition, I suppose.

Perhaps this is what Splum is getting at. Democrats would "bailout" or "buyout" and this is socialism and is bad. Republicans "rescue" and this is good.

I think i understand this better now.

borked · 10-09-2008, 02:30 PM

what's actually quite funny is this dumb ass redneck actually thinks France is a socialist country.

Fletch XXX · 10-09-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by montel

Perhaps this is what Splum is getting at.

no splum is just wanting to bash obama, nothing to do with anything further than shit slinging.

however as a libertarian I taunt both sides ;)

Barefootsies · 10-09-2008, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

Fact: Obama = Socialism

Im just saying.....

FACT: Bush = fascism

mrkris · 10-09-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by borked

what's actually quite funny is this dumb ass redneck actually thinks France is a socialist country.

Hippy ....

Barefootsies · 10-09-2008, 02:46 PM

toe hee...

directfiesta · 10-09-2008, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

FACT: Bush = fascism

FACT : Splum = moron

Barefootsies · 10-09-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

FACT : Splum = moron

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-09-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

Yer black balled from my services.

Just saying!

borked · 10-09-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mrkris

Hippy ....

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seeandsee · 10-09-2008, 03:17 PM

And you all hate it

GatorB · 10-09-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

YOU=IDIOT. WTF do you think Bush's plan is? McCain wants the government to buy back mortgages, WTF is that? Now the Fed guy wants the government to invest in banks. WTF is that? Oh I forgot Bush's perscription drug plan. WTF is that? Oh by the way SOCIALism Security started in 1935 so if you are worried about the US trending to socialism you're 73 years too late you fucking idiot. By the way sometimes a little socialism isn't so bad. If Bush's plans to have personal accounts in SS had gone through I wonder what the people that had their money in those accounts would be thinking right now?

xmas13 · 10-09-2008, 03:40 PM

In America, it's socialism for the wealthy: Bailouts, tax cuts, tax heavens, outsourcing, low cost workers...etc.

You must be kind to them and maybe maybe u will get something back... in another life.

OWNED.

DaLord · 10-09-2008, 03:44 PM

yea... the fucking last thing the "free" world need is change. Put an old guy in office who voted with Bush 95% of the time... that's exactly what the US needs. Why change anything that works so well and is proven right over the last 8 years.

[Irony migth have been used]

Mike

GetSCORECash · 10-09-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

By the time Obama takes office, there is nothing left to socialize. The Republicans beat them to the punch.

So true!

GatorB · 10-09-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Too late, Bush has already done it. AIG, Bear Stearns, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae.

By the time Obama takes office, there is nothing left to socialize. The Republicans beat them to the punch.

I wouldn't be shocked if Bush planned all this so the government and take over all the banks and other finanacial institutions. If Obama wins don't be shocked if Bush delcares Mashall Law on Jan 19th and Obama can't take over as President.

Bill8 · 10-09-2008, 04:05 PM

I think it's funny to watch the rightwing get all desperate and needy.

Ryan St. Germain · 10-09-2008, 04:23 PM

It takes a lot more than healthcare to be socialist, and there is far more that separates france and the US than that.
Healthcare is already offered to the poor, by the way, at my expense.My money takes care of old people, funds a war, and pays for healthcare of terrorist detainee's too. If wanting some healthcare out it of it for myself makes me a socialist than viva la France, motherf#cker!

the Shemp · 10-09-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

its just corporate welfare..you'll get used to it...

SuckOnThis · 10-09-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Splum

If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France.

Im just saying.....

You're just another asshole that was spouting how great Bush was during the 2004 elections. Thanks for your help in ruining the country.

grumpy · 10-09-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

Too late, Bush has already done it. AIG, Bear Stearns, Wachovia, Washington Mutual, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae.

By the time Obama takes office, there is nothing left to socialize. The Republicans beat them to the punch.

you nailed it

SuckOnThis · 10-09-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

I wouldn't be shocked if Bush planned all this so the government and take over all the banks and other finanacial institutions. If Obama wins don't be shocked if Bush delcares Mashall Law on Jan 19th and Obama can't take over as President.

The floodgates of hell would be opened at that point.

Drake · 10-09-2008, 05:19 PM

Obama is competent enough to screw us over while making us feel like we're all ok. If Palin gets in office, she'll do a half-assed job of screwing us over; no illusions, no mind games, no nothing. Obama is clearly the lesser of two evils.

Drake · 10-09-2008, 05:19 PM

Need proof? Last night I caught myself shouting "Yes we can!" while all alone in my basement.

pigman · 10-09-2008, 06:02 PM

Would it be such a scary thing if all americans would get health care?

buzzy · 10-09-2008, 06:04 PM

I would nationalize everything, petrol so you can fill your car up for like $5 to airlines so you can fly for low dollah.

Young · 10-09-2008, 06:12 PM

Is anyone surprised that this thread was started right about the time that McCain's Town Hall meeting turned into a McCarthy'ish event chock full of cries of socialism?

Neocon scumbags. They have no clue what words mean...all they do is parrot them.

buzzy · 10-09-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Young

Neocon scumbags. They have no clue what words mean...all they do is parrot them.

So true man.

10-09-2008, 02:01 PM	#1
Splum Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 6,195	Fact: Obama = Socialism If you listen closely to what his advocates are saying, Obama plans on socializing banking, health care, insurance and more. Basically there will be no difference between the USA and France. Im just saying.....

10-09-2008, 02:04 PM	#3
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	I'm not sure where people are getting that, especially so soon after McCain talks about having the government take over people's mortgages, take over the Wall Street companies and so forth. Having universal health care doesn't not immediately mean you're a socialist country. The US borrows more than it can pay back just so that they don't have to raise taxes as much as many other countries do that don't borrow so much. And it's afraid of universal health care? __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

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montel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: See sig! Posts: 2,606	if you want to see socialism, look no further than what is happening right now with the "bail outs". how can you say this about obama when it IS ALREADY HAPPENING UNDER THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT? why is it that people still think the republicans are small government when they have consistently increased spending and the size of government since Reagan? if the republicans actually did what they said they were going to do, i would support them. yes, perhaps obama will intervene in markets etc. yes this sucks and is socialism... but at least he isnt going to pretend to be a small government/fiscal conservative (like bush and reagan pretended). __________________ Barefootsies

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pornguy Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Homeless Posts: 62,911	I dont understand whats so fucking hard about having universal health care. Do what they do in cuba. You graduate as a Doctor, your first two years are spent working for the government taking care of " the people ". After that you can do what you like. Why not do the same with Doctors in the US. Simpley they MUST put in 20 hours per week in assigned clinics/hospitals at no charge. __________________ PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online! TChicks.com \| Angeles Cid \| Mariana Cordoba \| MAILERS WELCOME!

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Yeah its going to be obama. lol Well considering we are paying for all the fucking finance screw ups. It would be nice to get some free health care out of the deal.

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Ethersync Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: London, Saint-Tropez, Bermuda, Moscow Posts: 5,289	Funny. It's McCain that wants Uncle Sam to buy your bad mortgage and Obama said no to the idea...

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DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	yea... the fucking last thing the "free" world need is change. Put an old guy in office who voted with Bush 95% of the time... that's exactly what the US needs. Why change anything that works so well and is proven right over the last 8 years. [Irony migth have been used] Mike

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Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	I think it's funny to watch the rightwing get all desperate and needy.

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Ryan St. Germain Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,269	It takes a lot more than healthcare to be socialist, and there is far more that separates france and the US than that. Healthcare is already offered to the poor, by the way, at my expense.My money takes care of old people, funds a war, and pays for healthcare of terrorist detainee's too. If wanting some healthcare out it of it for myself makes me a socialist than viva la France, motherf#cker!

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Obama is competent enough to screw us over while making us feel like we're all ok. If Palin gets in office, she'll do a half-assed job of screwing us over; no illusions, no mind games, no nothing. Obama is clearly the lesser of two evils.

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Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	Is anyone surprised that this thread was started right about the time that McCain's Town Hall meeting turned into a McCarthy'ish event chock full of cries of socialism? Neocon scumbags. They have no clue what words mean...all they do is parrot them. __________________ ★★★