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B.Diker · 11-02-2002, 04:01 PM

this is my last post about ati graphic card but please respond if you know something ;

my system is
pentium 4 - 2.0MHz
512 mb ddr ram 333mhz

my power supply is 300 watt - not true 300watt-maybe max 260
i have 3 harddisks + cdrom + floppy + mainboard + soundcard + ati radeon9700 pro graphic card which needs extra power directly from power supply

here are the problems appearedAFTER started to using the new graphic card

while i was using windows xp professional edition it rebooted often while playing games or surfing on the net.
screen frozen sometimes , resets and many more things

now i am using windows 98 and installed win98 drivers of graphic card : still running smoothly , never rebooted or frozen

in that case the problem is only DRIVERS or POWER problem ?

KRL · 11-02-2002, 04:08 PM

ATI's graphic cards have always been plagued with driver problems. They make a nice product, and I've had a few of their cards over the years, but always ran into the same stuff like you're experiencing. Its the drivers no doubt.

Gemini · 11-02-2002, 04:14 PM

XP is a memory hog. Besides s*cking! Might be a while before you can get a patch for that ATI driver. We had the same probs in the advent of new ATI's with 98 but they got it worked out soon enough. Check ATI's site for updates.

B.Diker · 11-02-2002, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
ATI's graphic cards have always been plagued with driver problems. They make a nice product, and I've had a few of their cards over the years, but always ran into the same stuff like you're experiencing. Its the drivers no doubt.

if it is just drivers , no problem i can wait
i am sure they will develop some new drivers or i will give the card back and wait for ge force nv30 (nvidia)

let me ask to you again
u sure the problem is just drivers
? it seems "yes" but wanna be sure

still running cool with win98 and played lots of games without rebooting or freezing

Machete_ · 11-02-2002, 04:34 PM

its the powercupplu.. together with the p4 CPU your grafix card need at least a 300w TRUE.. buy a 420 or 460.... makes your cd-rom spin-up time better as well

B.Diker · 11-02-2002, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ebus_dk
its the powercupplu.. together with the p4 CPU your grafix card need at least a 300w TRUE.. buy a 420 or 460.... makes your cd-rom spin-up time better as well

would you advice me an online store where can i buy it immediately

** now i am using windows 98 but not rebooted or frozen yet
it has been 2.5 hours around

but i have forgotten to tell you something , i am using only 2 hdd's right now , disabled the 3rd one .. maybe the problem is really power supply

any advices ????

jimmyf · 11-02-2002, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B.Diker

would you advice me an online store where can i buy it immediately

** now i am using windows 98 but not rebooted or frozen yet
it has been 2.5 hours around

but i have forgotten to tell you something , i am using only 2 hdd's right now , disabled the 3rd one .. maybe the problem is really power supply

any advices ????

How are you using more than 2 *Physical* hard drive's with win98 +cdrom if so you must have SCSI

Machete_ · 11-02-2002, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by B.Diker

would you advice me an online store where can i buy it immediately

** now i am using windows 98 but not rebooted or frozen yet
it has been 2.5 hours around

but i have forgotten to tell you something , i am using only 2 hdd's right now , disabled the 3rd one .. maybe the problem is really power supply

any advices ????

I live in Denmark, so it would be pretty bad if i recomended a store i know.. it would take 3 monthe for it to arrive...

B.Diker · 11-02-2002, 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
How are you using more than 2 *Physical* hard drive's with win98 +cdrom if so you must have SCSI

they are not scsi

maybe you misunderstood. i have 3 harddisks

c:
d:
e:

right now i disabled my hdd which hAs win xp installed and running my others. one of them has win98 and other does not have any operation systems

normally i run them all at the same time but right now just testing and trying to find the real problem of these reboots and freezes

Tex Willer · 11-02-2002, 05:23 PM

speaking of XP... I have both XP and Win98 installed on my PC
i usually use Win98 but I do need XP from time to time

question is: is there a way to make Win98 default OS in the boot menu

Machete_ · 11-02-2002, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tex Willer
speaking of XP... I have both XP and Win98 installed on my PC
i usually use Win98 but I do need XP from time to time

question is: is there a way to make Win98 default OS in the boot menu

yes.. change the order in this file; c:\boot.ini
It looks like this:
[
boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microso ft Windows 2000 Professional" /fastdetect

Tex Willer · 11-02-2002, 07:20 PM

thanks ebus, got it!

btw for anyone else trying to do the same: little ini fucker is a hidden file

11-02-2002, 04:01 PM	#1
B.Diker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,286	need help,need help,need help this is my last post about ati graphic card but please respond if you know something ; my system is pentium 4 - 2.0MHz 512 mb ddr ram 333mhz my power supply is 300 watt - not true 300watt-maybe max 260 i have 3 harddisks + cdrom + floppy + mainboard + soundcard + ati radeon9700 pro graphic card which needs extra power directly from power supply here are the problems appearedAFTER started to using the new graphic card while i was using windows xp professional edition it rebooted often while playing games or surfing on the net. screen frozen sometimes , resets and many more things now i am using windows 98 and installed win98 drivers of graphic card : still running smoothly , never rebooted or frozen in that case the problem is only DRIVERS or POWER problem ?

11-02-2002, 04:08 PM	#2
KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	ATI's graphic cards have always been plagued with driver problems. They make a nice product, and I've had a few of their cards over the years, but always ran into the same stuff like you're experiencing. Its the drivers no doubt.

11-02-2002, 04:14 PM	#3
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	XP is a memory hog. Besides s*cking! Might be a while before you can get a patch for that ATI driver. We had the same probs in the advent of new ATI's with 98 but they got it worked out soon enough. Check ATI's site for updates.

11-02-2002, 04:34 PM	#5
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	its the powercupplu.. together with the p4 CPU your grafix card need at least a 300w TRUE.. buy a 420 or 460.... makes your cd-rom spin-up time better as well

11-02-2002, 05:23 PM	#10
Tex Willer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,105	speaking of XP... I have both XP and Win98 installed on my PC i usually use Win98 but I do need XP from time to time question is: is there a way to make Win98 default OS in the boot menu

11-02-2002, 07:20 PM	#12
Tex Willer Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,105	thanks ebus, got it! btw for anyone else trying to do the same: little ini fucker is a hidden file