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Old 11-02-2002, 09:04 AM   #1
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:mad asshole has stolen my content...and even Lightspeeds

This guy wanted to swap some traffic with our site...we let him check out our members area...and then never heard from him again. Today I check his site and my entire members section is on his site...labled as his own! I then notice that he has stolen some of lightspeeds stuff as well.

What is the best way to handle this?

Thanks for any responses.

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Old 11-02-2002, 09:05 AM   #2
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expose him.
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Old 11-02-2002, 09:07 AM   #3
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C&D. If he fails to comply. Sue him.
Expose him to the webmaster community though, regardless of what the outcome is.
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Old 11-02-2002, 09:14 AM   #4
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www.nebraskacoeds.com

It's not like he's got a great site...and I assume most of the stuff on it is stolen. One of my members actually suggested that I check him out saying that he liked the raw aspect of the site.

The memebers section has a link to a supposed trip taken to the Missouri River...and it's actually Tayler and Raimi from Lightspeed...which I doubt he purchased the rights to.

I'm thinking about making a trip to Nebraska and paying this guy a visit.

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Old 11-02-2002, 09:23 AM   #5
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Send him the email - you're posting my copyrighted images without permission .. you have 24 hrs to take them down before I take further action - blah blah .. if you want my standard copy drop me an email gramma @ grammacash.com
CC it to his host and to his billing company.
This usually works with me.


I've had excellent luck with Yahoo getting them to take down some of those thieving groups. .. They remove the whole group.
MSN on the other hand - asks the group leader nicely to remove the offending photos and that's the end of it.
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Old 11-02-2002, 09:30 AM   #6
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I would contact his processor. It's funny, he seems very protective of this content, isn't it ironic? http://www.nebraskacoeds.com/tour/im...ay/cat003.html
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Old 11-02-2002, 09:35 AM   #7
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to contact Ibill and Reliable Hosting.

This guy is such a fuckin piece of shite.

Thanks again

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Old 11-02-2002, 09:37 AM   #8
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I'm thinking about making a trip to Nebraska and paying this guy a visit.

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Beat him with a baseball bat until his eyeballs pop out of their sockets.
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Old 11-02-2002, 09:42 AM   #9
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I don't see any Lightspeed content on his tour.... Hook me up with a password. If I see any of my stuff inside I'll slam his ass up to the wall. Our attorney is a pit bull and will file a multi-million dollar lawsuit.... It's become a weekly thing with our content!
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Old 11-02-2002, 09:43 AM   #10
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Roc Hard

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Old 11-02-2002, 10:09 AM   #11
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Sue him... thats a lot more fun...
And you WILL make more money that way. No doubt!
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Old 11-02-2002, 10:14 AM   #12
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The problem when contacting some one like a CC processor, host, sponsor is that you have to establish they are your pictures. You own the rights to them and that you are serious about suing them. APIC do not have this problem.

When they get a DMCA from this well known PITBULL, with a bad attitude, about stolen content they tend to sit up and take notice.

A bad reputation can work in certain cases
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Old 11-02-2002, 10:15 AM   #13
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I don't see any Lightspeed content on his tour.... Hook me up with a password. If I see any of my stuff inside I'll slam his ass up to the wall. Our attorney is a pit bull and will file a multi-million dollar lawsuit.... It's become a weekly thing with our content!

can you actually get anything if someone is using your content in their members area, other than making them remove it?

say they had 15 of your exclusive pics that you shot. i know of a few sites that have my content but never wasted the time. if i could get something out of it like taking over the domain maybe it would be worth looking into more.
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Old 11-02-2002, 10:36 AM   #14
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there is a pictures of the girls from voyeurdorm on the tour

candidcam will be able to you if he is buying there stuff or just 'borrowing' it
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Old 11-02-2002, 10:51 AM   #15
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can you actually get anything if someone is using your content in their members area, other than making them remove it?

say they had 15 of your exclusive pics that you shot. i know of a few sites that have my content but never wasted the time. if i could get something out of it like taking over the domain maybe it would be worth looking into more.
Unless you have a lot of money and the shots are "Copyrighted" with the authorities you are going to waste a lot of time and money.

The pirates usually do not have the money, that is why they are stealing. But if you can tie in a big sponsor with a lot of bucks you might have a chance. Some shooters earn good money by suing these people.

They use to cry they did not know and there is nothing they could do. But now once they have been served legal notice they are liable, this was how Adult Check fell down in the Perfect 10 case. They just wiped their hands and said there was nothing they coud do. Fourtunately for the industry, Perfect 10 had an option, sue them.
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Old 11-02-2002, 10:59 AM   #16
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Can I get a pass also? I spoke with that guy a few months ago and he's got my banner on his main page. I hope he doesn't have any of my content in his members area. If anyone sees my stuff, let me know [email protected]
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Old 11-02-2002, 11:07 AM   #17
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Lensman what does contacting his processor do?

Damm IBILL can hardly handle their own problems let alone dealing with someone elses.

Have you had luck dealing with copyright issues in this way?

I can see contacting his hosting company which is how I always deal with this type of problem but I have never contacted CC processors, yet. Hosting companies have a legal obligation to review sites that may have content of a questionable nature.

Maybe I should start contacting CC processors.

Would they shut him down just on the word of another webmaster?

Seems like opening a can of worms here, what about people that are just pissed off at guys like you and me, they could just start calling our processors and saying we have stolen content.

Hosting companies seem to have staff members to look into these issues do CC processors.
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Old 11-02-2002, 11:14 AM   #18
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Sweetcuties:

Check your mail.

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Old 11-02-2002, 12:13 PM   #19
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Fourtunately for the industry, Perfect 10 had an option, sue them.

I cannot believe that you think that this was good for the industry. This is the most moronic statement I have heard in my live. This has huge indications. If you run a sponsorship prog and you get send signups form lets say a celeb site you will be liable. Thank god I am not in the states to have to check for this stuff.
Perfect 10 is just doing this to eliminate compeditors. Basically there images were used only in fake pics but they made AC take down all celeb sites with no content used from them.
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Old 11-02-2002, 12:25 PM   #20
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take all your credit cards, and all your friend's cards, make 100 accounts at his site. this way he'll get so happy hes making more than his usual 3 sales a week, then charge them all back. he'll have fees to pay, will end up closing his shitty site, and you wont have to spend a dime.
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Old 11-02-2002, 12:53 PM   #21
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Can I get a pass also? I spoke with that guy a few months ago and he's got my banner on his main page. I hope he doesn't have any of my content in his members area. If anyone sees my stuff, let me know [email protected]
just post the passes here, and we can all go in and give him a nice BIG bandwidth bill

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Old 11-02-2002, 01:26 PM   #22
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Old 11-02-2002, 01:46 PM   #24
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**the shots are "Copyrighted" with the authorities **

BULLZACKI.


Legally informing the host as well as the processors with the required proof of ownership, IE: a copy of the licensing deal you made with a model, opens them up to be sued as co-defendants upon their not following thru with terminating the pirates business dealings.

Under the US Laws, they are financially gaining as well as the thief. So are open to being held as co-defendants. AND if found guilty... Also a guilty verdict sets all legal fees that you incurred sueing them right in THEIR laps.
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