I was planning on tracking you down on ICQ or something this weekend. Glad you're around. What I think has to happen is somebody with a VOICE to show the sponsors its worth the 15 minutes to code a simple PHP script that'll spit this output out. I believe that when I can get a solid base together it will help me have a louder voice. Your standard has been sitting there basically and STXT also put one together.

Nubiles CSV export is nice but XML is where its at since CSV is well.... not clean at all!

I have been MANUALLY processing feeds from quite a few different sponsors and putting them into a format I can use. One of the things that piss me off about the TEVS import tools is they don't use the categories provided by the sponsor. Most sponsors keep these feeds completely in the members area which will make it a bitch since I have to manually go in every so often to update the feed.

Shit even if they could set me up with a password protected directory with this simple XML dump I can use CURL to login and if like only I have that login then they still keep these lists out of public consumption.

You need to get all the sponsors on board, that's the hard part because we all know
your system will work.

One thing i'll say about nubiles tube is the admin is actually pretty easy i thought. I love the channels feature and the gallery spider is bad ass! It lacks a lot of other stuff on the front end.

Never used tevs, wont comment on that :)

I use farked's ES script on one site and the load on that site is very very low with the cache features. :thumbsup

Whenever you tube coders decide on what format you want jlmk.

My script will output any format that's in use atm.

As far as I know there are no tube scripts that read a xml feed is there?

Someone comes up with a tube script that reads an xml feed let me know, i will get it done.

(Just like I did when TEVS format came out and Nubiles format,)

You guys have to come up with what format you want or need first.

So what tube scripts read xml feeds right now?

I'm using the nubiles one on http://www.youngchickz.com/tube. It's actually fairly decent for a free script. More options would be better, but can't really complain since it's free.

having single domain licenses is a total turn off

if I buy a script and spend the time to put it through its paces I better be able to put it on any of my domains at any time and not have to pay a license fee for each domain, otherwise I'm not interested at all :2 cents:

Either XML format from Mr Yellow or STXT just one of them is FINE.

Currently there isn't a single script on the market that you can simply plug in a feed from either of these XML sources and it processes them. I'm going to go over those feeds very closely and figure out which I think is the best and propose any changes I think should be made. i will be promoting one of those 2 XML formats but honestly I don't even know which is better at this moment.

My script is not encoded or domain locked in any way BUT 1 license is for 1 site at a time. at $40 a pop that is very reasonable. Only the free scripts will allow you to go on whatever domain you want and install as many times as you want.

Nobody in there right mind will let you install all you want for just $40.

exactly my point, so make the script then

don't expect sponsors to make a special xml feed for something that does not exist yet

that's like an auto parts store stocking an oil filter for a 2019 Chevy truck.

lol, dude, come on, think about what you said for a minute.

your typing on a computer with an OS right?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

lol :1orglaugh

I agree 100%. Some of the free scripts are as good as the paid ones at the moment anyway. It's a lot of work to customize a script. If you get it working on one domain, do a nice design for the front end, add content and links and banners and all the other elements that will make it make money hopefully, it sure is nice to be able to replicate that on other domains with a new header, color scheme and alternate content selections without paying again and again, just like one can do with Wordpress.

Alot of people require multiple licenses to be purchased so they can keep track of what sites are running their script or not...

think of it like BV said, microsoft doesn't let you buy 1 copy of windows and install it on as many computers as you want do they? so why should scripts be sold that way, because you're to cheap to actually pay for it multiple times?

Many sponsors already adapted to the STXT XML.. and many more are currently adding our XML feed to their system..

MPA3 has customized their product for a clients to support our XML specifications..

So your script will import a sponsor supplied xml feed?

or do you import it from us and your customers import it from you?

What is the format?

Post an example and I will get on it.

http://smart-scripts.com/?action=xml_feed there you go.. :thumbsup
Here's how it works http://smart-scripts.com/images/stxt.png

Of course. To make an analogy, think about how many blogs one can create with the free Wordpress CMS. It's just impractical to do multiple MGP or tube sites with a licensed tube-style script if you are paying for each one separately. For the scripts that charge money I understand how the licensing works, one license per site. Some people will need the features they offer and the add-ons and for them it will be worth it, especially if you have a very complex site. For the rest of people just throwing up a MGP style video site, or a niche tube site that doesn't get hundreds of thousands of hits a day,one is better off using one of the free scripts with a little ingenuity on the design and see if you can find a formula that works to make sales before you spend a lot of money on licenses in my opinion.

How would any program auto add tags or keywords? I'm pretty sure that's impossible.

fuck, you just brought up a huge sore point and something that really marked a dark change in computing, when microshit started with all the bullshit and made it so that their os is a fricking pain in the ass to work with, and why I am running one of my laptops with a 3 year old install of windows because it is so fucked up to do a reinstall with all their spy online updates and licensing headaches for serials etc...... if I buy a copy of windows, I should be able to fricking install it on my machine, buy a new hard drive and install it again, etc.... so many headaches are caused because of the lame licensing crap

and as far as any script that wants you to buy a license per domain, instantly not interested, I'll find any other solution to use other than that :2 cents::321GFY

Wordpress is the worst example ever, as it was developed as a BLOGGING platform for NON-ADULT sites... Adult sites just started using it..

Wordpress was developed to give users something to use on their own host instead of free blogging sites out there.. They get backlinks like WHOA out of it, because of its popularity, that pays off for them, but no programmer building a script for the adult industry is gonna do that because not many leave the backlinks in tact as they just remove as much as possible, so the only possible way to gain anything out of pouring your heart and soul into a project is to charge what its worth to you...

Sure you can get TEVS for $250+ or you can buy JimBob's version for $20... You pay for what you get, and TEVS is quality, that's why its so expensive...

Or maybe just don't be a complete retard? I've had my current machine and Windows XP on it since 2005, 3 years, just as long as you, and I reformat and reinstall XP every 3 months, without any problems...

Being a programmer myself, we don't need your kind anyway, go for the cheap stuff, go use the script built by a kid that is full of bugs and will cause you more trouble, in the end, you will come crawling to us and pay our fees, ontop of the paying for the cheaper version that you've already bought but can't do anything with because it's borked and won't work. :2 cents:

laptops nowadays don't even come with operating system disks, there is a 'recovery' setup in a partition on the hard drive, which can cause all kinds of grief from those that I have spoken too that have tried to reinstall from


and on the other topic, I don't mind paying for a script, but I won't buy scripts that use the 'single domain per license' model of selling them :2 cents:

If you can afford $200+ for a script you should be doing something else.

Stop being cheap

:2 cents:

Specially when every license after the first one is at $120 and in some cases cheaper for bulk. :thumbsup

Gotta spend money to make money, and if you take shortcuts you're ROI will reflect that.

You can keep repeating that like a parrot, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. For example, I barely spend fifteen minutes a day on webmastering, yet I started one blog with free WordPress software on June 19th and have made over $1200 from it so far. The success had nothing to do with the cost or sophistication of the content management system, but more with the ingenuity and work I put into the design, writing posts, trading traffic, links, and selection of niche & sponsors.

It would be the same with a MGP style video site or tube site. One doesn't necessarily need the expensive tools to do the job. The advanced features in some of the paid for tube scripts are great but not the be all and end all. As a matter of fact I think some of the free scripts are better than the paid ones, at least right now. Furthermore, the concept ROI pre-supposes the idea of revenue vs expenses, so the less one spends, the better one's chances of turning a profit quickly.

I am not against paying for software in general, I have literally thousands of dollars worth of licenses for all kinds of software here in my office. But if a free script can do the job and do it as well or almost as well as a paid tool, there is no reason to downplay it or dismiss it. If your script has some awesome features that others don't, webmasters will gladly pay for it, especially if they have more complex tube sites or highly trafficked tube sites and if you offer a feature that makes their lives easier, like easy import of sponsor videos.

You should know that the primary reason to charge a per domain license is to
make the script a cheaper price.

Those who use it the least pay the least. The least is not really enough money to
pay for all the work put into the script plus support. So those who use it the most
pay more and that makes things work out fair.

The small webmaster can get a script and the bigger webmaster with 30 domains pays
a reasonable amount for building an empire off someone else's code.

When programmers try to make a living buy selling a script that is unlimited domains then
they end up charging $1500 for what you are getting for $50-$250 now.

If you think the way programmers of these scripts are charging is some kind of
"brutal shit" then I can guess that if you own an affiliate program then you
definitely do not have NATS. :1orglaugh

Have you looked at any of the feeds any sponsors provide? MANY of them on top of having nice title and descriptions also but keywords/categories for you. You simply take those and insert them into your DB. Like I've said before, the problem with this is there's a TON of category names being created that are exactly the same content. For example I have a bunch called "the rabbit" which clearly has to merge into masturbation

the "Free Tube Script" in your sig is interesting

Sure is, it has a 2% traffic skim for me.
So once again those using it the least pay the least in traffic.

Oh the humanity...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

Dude, come one. All programmers aren't making NATS kind of money.

I was kidding mate. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

It just makes me laugh in some of these threads how people want scripts to make them millions, but for next to nothing, and are unwilling to PAY for the development, additional licenses, support, and so forth.

I know in the development of my own CMS, and other scripts, programming can take a lot of man hours. Whether from scratch, or starting half way. The fact they need to make a living off their time and efforts is common sense.

However, people in adult, and mainstream, do not wanna flip the $50/100/200 for these programs they plan to build their business on.

Fucking crazy.

sortie I've done coding for this guy, he doesn't mind paying... He tends to be very sarcastic on forums. Who really CAN take a place like this seriously? I mean think about the comedy in this thread... Somebody that thinks he should pay somebody a small to no fee and "own" the code. If somebody wants a custom job that they can do ANYTHING they feel like then there's some things I can do for people like that starting at like $2k. In the mean time they can just pay $40 a SITE for my current tube script or if they spend so much time/money CUSTOMIZING a script then maybe they should just use a FREE option like vidiscript as a base. Or HOW ABOUT THIS? build your own! I've talked to a dozen programmers the past few days and not a single one of them believe outside of those sponsor imports that TEVS could possibly be more than a weeks worth of work. Obviously Zorgman has done an excellent job of making it extremely SIMPLE to use but it has come at too much of an expense of POWER.

ANyway I'm still tuning away on some of these feeds. The smallest stray line can cause oh so many headaches when you're trying to process such insane amounts of data!

Alright ya I understand that working with feeds that have the info. For some when I was reading this thread last night it sounded like you could just upload videos and tags would magically be added the match the video.

Just get him some Moutain Dew and a lock for his door. :winkwink:

Well I'm finding some feeds that don't have them included so I'm TRYING to code a description search tool so that I can tag them that way. That is one of my holdups. I might just have to roll this out with pretty much the same level of sponsors the nubiles script has simply because those are in a simple to use format already. I have some oddball bugs i"m still working out in some of my other imports that aren't quite working well enough to use in production environments yet. I will be going through EVERY sponsor on this large list I have in front of me and coding in support for everybody that has more than a certain number of videos available.

Target has Dew 3/$10 and when you buy 5 you get a $5 gift card.... I'm going to call down to Super Target in South Bend and see if they have that special. To keep me working I think I'll buy like 20+ 12 packs and get a bunch of gift cards THEN bring those cans back and get "deposit" on them which would bring the price per can under $.18 which with my civic hybrid actually makes it worth the trip LOL plus my wife has gift cards for target and babys r us which are side by side down there AND far bigger than the ones we have in Kzoo

Damn man.

You have the working on this shit, and Dew equation down to a science.

I'm one of those guys that absolutely works his ass off 3-4 days a week and screws around 3-4 days a week and it works best that way. I work 12-16 hour days though when I'm focused. Last night I actually worked about 6 hours and played like 6 hours of xbox so I might have hit that brick wall that happens during these "binges"

One word..FOCUS..

send me that xbox its no good for you.. I need it more than you anyway :winkwink:

Toe hee!

Tubecgi does exactly that.

Tags are auto-created from descriptions.

that is a good way to do it, with an option to pay later if you want to turn off the 2% (if/when your site's revenue reaches the point where 2% of it's revenue is equal or greater to the price of turning off the skim)

this makes it much more feasible for experimenting and setting up sites on domains that you are not sure you may keep in the future

will be watching the options and will give your script a try on a few domains to start

STXT does this by utilizing the descriptions..

I was talking to somebody about this a couple days ago. I've been playing around with some skimming tools in my script so that when you click some of the video links you auto go to a sponsor.

In a market like this EVERYBODY is expecting the world for free. So many people remove the copyright linkback on free scripts and the only way I could offer a skimming version would be to encode chunks of the script. I've even considering putting my full 1.x out with some sponsor import tools for a skim %

stop saying you are going to do it, and do it, all talk no game

There's already some people who I've sent the first round of sponsor imports to ;) If you want to be one of the first email [email protected] what script you use if you have my script I can get it to you TODAY if you send me $50 and you'll get future updates. I have several sponsors fully supported and am working on fixing a few bugs in the next round of sponsors I'm supporting.

If you don't own my script yet then for a TOTAL of $90 I can have you up and running TONIGHT and you will still get the other sponsor addons when they're released. ETA for vidiscript support is Monday.