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Old 10-07-2008, 07:42 PM   #1
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I hate to break it too you and it may not matter but McCain won the debate

he had plenty to say.
It was odd that Obama was still mouthing the lie that 95% of Americans will get a tax cut from his tax increase plan
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:44 PM   #2
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They both sounded full of poop.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:45 PM   #4
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i don't think either wowed anyone. there were a couple good one liners.

i am suspending my house buying campaign in pennsylvania until i see what happens on nov 4th.
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It becomes more and more apparent to me that as time goes by these politicans suck. All of them.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:55 PM   #6
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i am suspending my house buying campaign in pennsylvania until i see what happens on nov 4th.
Have no fear. The dipshits in the center of the state (which is where I live), well, most of them will vote red, but the Philly and Pittsburgh areas will keep the whole state blue.

What area are you looking to buy in?
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Have no fear. The dipshits in the center of the state (which is where I live), well, most of them will vote red, but the Philly and Pittsburgh areas will keep the whole state blue.

What area are you looking to buy in?
altoona area. grew up there. that is if obama wins. if not, i'm outta here. thank god i've got interests in costa rica and brasil with solid foundations in both countries. i have no kids. lots of liquid assets (cash), and no mortgages or car loans to get out of.

i cant stomach a dumb ass like palin so close to the presidency.

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Old 10-07-2008, 07:58 PM   #8
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he had plenty to say.
I respectfully decline to agree with you.
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altoona area. grew up there.
That's cool. I'm about a two hour drive from there. My dad actually graduated from Altoona Area High School. Small world...
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there are 2 republican guys on CNN - one said he thought Obama was better and the other said McCain was ok, but by far not good enough to gain anything. if even those guys don't believe in McCain anymore they should hire you next time to run the republican campain ;)
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They both sounded full of poop.
they both are full of poop, they're politicians...
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neither of them did shit except talk too long
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Funny.. Friend of mine who's a hardcore republican in Texas who will be voting for McCain was ticked off when he told me that he felt Obama won it the "debate".
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he had plenty to say.
It was odd that Obama was still mouthing the lie that 95% of Americans will get a tax cut from his tax increase plan
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he had plenty to say.
It was odd that Obama was still mouthing the lie that 95% of Americans will get a tax cut from his tax increase plan
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That's cool. I'm about a two hour drive from there. My dad actually graduated from Altoona Area High School. Small world...
nice. yah my mom lives down the street from altoona high.

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there are 2 republican guys on CNN - one said he thought Obama was better and the other said McCain was ok, but by far not good enough to gain anything. if even those guys don't believe in McCain anymore they should hire you next time to run the republican campain ;)
I certainly would have run a better campaign. I'd have not resorted to a circus trick like palin. I'd have hit Obama on taxes and spending. I'd have tied him to the radical left now in power in the house and senate (who's ratings are below Bush's)
It should have been an easy win, Christ, McCain didn't even need to campaign in the south.
It's disappointing but politics is just like the economy. Back and forth. The only difference is no side can seem to stop spending.
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I certainly would have run a better campaign. I'd have not resorted to a circus trick like palin. I'd have hit Obama on taxes and spending. I'd have tied him to the radical left now in power in the house and senate (who's ratings are below Bush's)
It should have been an easy win, Christ, McCain didn't even need to campaign in the south.
It's disappointing but politics is just like the economy. Back and forth. The only difference is no side can seem to stop spending.
The Palin deal just baffles me. I really think before that, McCain had a great shot at winning...
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Not super far from me. I'm over to the east some in northumberland county.
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Nope, McCain didn't make his case. Maybe it can't be done in two minute time span. One might feel his policy is better, but he certainly didn't win the debate.

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Absolutely agree.

I think this debate is a wash. I heard nothing new.
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A huge debate is the economy... prior was how to stop an economic crash. Candidate Obama please respond... nothing. Candidate McCain please respond... nothing.

Well, our economy is now crashing and no one can do two fucks two stop it (i.e. market will spiral downward till dow reaches 8K... no sooner and no mutha fucking politicians can stop it)

So my question is who know is the best candidate to lead our country. The guy who has foreign affair relationships or the one sponsored by Hollywood?
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Not super far from me. I'm over to the east some in northumberland county.
Wow...I'm just a little south and to the west of you in Cumberland County.

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A huge debate is the economy... prior was how to stop an economic crash. Candidate Obama please respond... nothing. Candidate McCain please respond... nothing.
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So my question is who know is the best candidate to lead our country. The guy who has foreign affair relationships or the one sponsored by Hollywood?
It could be said this way too:

One guy has poor foreign affair relationships while the other has been sponsored by millions of small citizen donations.
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Yea I hate to bring up Ron Paul on this forum because it will just incite immature name calling and flaming, as that is what most people have been conditioned to do when his name comes up.

But the truth is, Paul had been warning us of this economic turmoil since those debates last year. He is constantly telling the truth about what is going on, so obviously they do not want you to hear him.

So whatever, no one listens anyways, carry on calling Ron Paul a kook, or nerd, or quack... so sad...
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I wish I could have been there to jump up on the stage and scream at both of them that they are both lying cheating crooks that will sink this country and the world into the abyss... they did nothing but lie lie lie... they said the same things, just talk out of different sides of their heads.

Marxist socialism and communism and the end of democracy is what you will get with either of these guys.
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I wish I could have been there to jump up on the stage and scream at both of them that they are both lying cheating crooks that will sink this country and the world into the abyss... they did nothing but lie lie lie... they said the same things, just talk out of different sides of their heads.

Marxist socialism and communism and the end of democracy is what you will get with either of these guys.
That's a bit extreme, doncha think?
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he had plenty to say.
It was odd that Obama was still mouthing the lie that 95% of Americans will get a tax cut from his tax increase plan
your way way off...no pun intended
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uhmmm... why? Its rhetorical
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I certainly would have run a better campaign. I'd have not resorted to a circus trick like palin. I'd have hit Obama on taxes and spending. I'd have tied him to the radical left now in power in the house and senate (who's ratings are below Bush's)
It should have been an easy win, Christ, McCain didn't even need to campaign in the south.
It's disappointing but politics is just like the economy. Back and forth. The only difference is no side can seem to stop spending.
If McCain picked Romney, he wins this election. The Palin pick was stupid and short sighted. He also should have opposed the bailout. He would be killing Obama with the fact the bailout went through and the economy is still tanking.

McCain has no one to blame but himself for letting a few retarded wonks run his campaign into the ground.
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If McCain picked Romney, he wins this election. The Palin pick was stupid and short sighted. He also should have opposed the bailout. He would be killing Obama with the fact the bailout went through and the economy is still tanking.

McCain has no one to blame but himself for letting a few retarded wonks run his campaign into the ground.
If romney wasnt a mormon, you would be right...
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The problem is Mccain sold out, Mccain in 2000 was a man of principles on some level. Now he is just a man who wants to get elected and will say anything to do it.

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The problem is Mccain sold out, Mccain in 2000 was a man of principles. Now he is just a man who wants to get elected and will say anything to do it.
That is one of the posts that actually sounded like some thought was given to...

Why... or just post some quotes?
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McCain won the debate? Okay there.... with that thinking, i'm sure your just as qualified to run a bank as well
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That is one of the posts that actually sounded like some thought was given to...

Why... or just post some quotes?
The 2000 McCain didn't play to the evangelicals. He had his own mind and his own principles. He was pro-choice, said tax cuts during a war was retarded, and had a sensible approach to immigration. He told the religious right to go fuck themselves.

Now he has changed and will say and do whatever he is told. His stance has changed on almost all the social issues. The Palin choice was a great sign that he isn't his own man. The guy wanted Lieberman but caved to the party. He has now filled his campaign with lobbyists and Bush cronies.

The 2000 McCain didn't take shit from anyone and was his own man. The 2008 McCain is just the prototypical evangelical leaning conservative who does as he's told.
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The 2000 McCain didn't play to the evangelicals. He had his own mind and his own principles. He was pro-choice, said tax cuts during a war was retarded, and had a sensible approach to immigration. He told the religious right to go fuck themselves.

Now he has changed and will say and do whatever he is told. His stance has changed on almost all the social issues. The Palin choice was a great sign that he isn't his own man. The guy wanted Lieberman but caved to the party. He has now filled his campaign with lobbyists and Bush cronies.

The 2000 McCain didn't take shit from anyone and was his own man. The 2008 McCain is just the prototypical evangelical leaning conservative who does as he's told.
I couldnt of said it better myself
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he had plenty to say.
It was odd that Obama was still mouthing the lie that 95% of Americans will get a tax cut from his tax increase plan
It would actually matter what you said, if you weren't a hard core right winger. It doesn't matter if a hardcore right winger thinks that McCain won, just the same as it doesn't matter if a hardcore left winger thinks Obama won.

Of course each side will "claim" their guy won.. What matters is what the indy's think and I'd be willing to bet they would pick Obama.
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It’s a sad situation

Most people in America are worth nothing because they believe everyone they fall for scams all day long and many people for for the same scam over and over again.

Only an American walks into a electronic store and asks the “commission based salesman” what he would suggest.

Then again tons of people especially the hipsters like to do things the opposite of common sense its part of their lifestyle, hipsters are the foundation of every problem on this planet.

What is a hipster? Well ill paint a picture for ya.

People who always look dirty

People who even if they don’t find a black guy or girl attractive for a date will still make a point to to be seen in public with them

Nothing wrong with being a vegetarian but there is something wrong with telling everyone you bump into that you are a vegetarian

People who look for things to protest about.

People who have craigslist as their default homepage

People who talk about Steve Jobs and macs all fucking day and how amazing he and the products are

People who just want to debate all fucking day about anything

People who admire abstract art even thou they have no clue what the fuck they are looking at.

People who post reviews all day long about restaurants they went and how overpriced and undercooked the food was, and how the “ambiance” wasn’t up to their dirty underwear standards.

People who might be straight but to show they support the gay community they will take a cock up their ass.

And last but not least “Obama supporters”

Obama has one thing going for himself and that is a good mouth hes a great speaker, heck that how we found out about him years ago he gave an amazing speech, written by someone else.

Is McCain perfect? Hell no! But we will be better off with someone with real experience in office right now, not someone who likes to bullshit and tell stories all fucking day.

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Old 10-08-2008, 01:53 AM   #45
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The problem is Mccain sold out, Mccain in 2000 was a man of principles on some level. Now he is just a man who wants to get elected and will say anything to do it.

Tony, we don't agree often, with this post being a notable exception.

More from debate viewers:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...oll/index.html

A majority of debate watchers polled thought Obama was more intelligent, by a 57 percent to 25 percent margin over McCain. Debate watchers also thought Obama more clearly expressed his views by a two to one margin, 60 percent to 30 percent.


but.....I see that not everybody on GFY have enough inteligence to understand his intelligence
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Is McCain perfect? Hell no! But we will be better off with someone with real experience in office right now, not someone who likes to bullshit and tell stories all fucking day.
Sweetheart, turn on your TV!

We have real EXPERIENCED President now!

Governor of Texas, second term President of USA, not enough experience for you???
Would you elect George W Bush for the third term with all the expereince he has?

NO? You would not?
Than take all this "experience" talk and shove it.
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altoona area. grew up there. that is if obama wins. if not, i'm outta here. thank god i've got interests in costa rica and brasil with solid foundations in both countries. i have no kids. lots of liquid assets (cash), and no mortgages or car loans to get out of.

i cant stomach a dumb ass like palin so close to the presidency.
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he had plenty to say.
It was odd that Obama was still mouthing the lie that 95% of Americans will get a tax cut from his tax increase plan
explain your lie.
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I dont know about that.....notice how he keeps referring to all Americans as " my friends " , ya when we are needed to vote for him, they call us friends but when we go back to working hard and paying all those tax dollars, they use that tax money in the wrong places and wrong ways.....they are all in it for money in my opinion...
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The 2000 McCain didn't play to the evangelicals. He had his own mind and his own principles. He was pro-choice, said tax cuts during a war was retarded, and had a sensible approach to immigration. He told the religious right to go fuck themselves.

Now he has changed and will say and do whatever he is told. His stance has changed on almost all the social issues. The Palin choice was a great sign that he isn't his own man. The guy wanted Lieberman but caved to the party. He has now filled his campaign with lobbyists and Bush cronies.

The 2000 McCain didn't take shit from anyone and was his own man. The 2008 McCain is just the prototypical evangelical leaning conservative who does as he's told.
Yep the McCain of 2000 is someone is would consider voting for. The McCain of 2008 not so much. He became a total sellout and pussy. After what Bush did to him in 2000 instead of bending over becoming his bitch he should have done his best to fuck him over. I lost all respect for McCain by 2004.

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If McCain picked Romney, he wins this election. The Palin pick was stupid and short sighted. He also should have opposed the bailout. He would be killing Obama with the fact the bailout went through and the economy is still tanking.

McCain has no one to blame but himself for letting a few retarded wonks run his campaign into the ground.
Whatever small % of me was considering voting for McCain was lost because of his chosing stupid, jesus freak, gun toting, book banning, hypocritical whore. President Palin? No fucking way. Can't risk that. Romney was the best choice for VP and hell I'd take Huckabee over Palin even though he's a super Jesus freak. At least he knows WTF is is talking about.
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