:2 cents:

You still don't get it man, and it's okay, it's not your fault. Everyone in America has been indoctrinated into this system since birth... it's hard to wake up and see what's going on. Most people have such busy lives that they don't even have time to know the mainstream knowledge that they are "supposed to know," let alone what is really going on.

The citizens can't do shit about the rigged system until they KNOW ABOUT IT. Most people, I'd say at least 70-80% of Americans still have no clue that they are being bamboozled.

Even you think there will be a huge difference between a McCain administration and an Obama administration. :Oh crap

Good for votes, bad show of personality. The format was agreed on by both campaigns, and sticking by the agreements you make is a fairly important trait. Politicians renegotiating their promises isn't something you want.

It's all moot now, though. Barring something truly extreme, Obama gets the job.

Ok, now I know they're both swine.. Both of them blame Russia for the Georgia aggression and genocide. :mad:

GEORGIA was the aggressor, not Russia.

The ONLY reason they side with Georgia is because they're allied and have an air force base from which an attack on Iran will be launched.


They're both fucking puppets.

What's going on? Enlighten me.


You're a genius. I'm stupid. Expound please.


How is it rigged? How are we being bamboozled. Please do explain. You can't just make statements and not back them up.

There will be no fundamental differences. The President doesn't run the country. The lobbyists and big business do. If you're not prepared to tell me how I'm an idiot, don't call me one please. I'm very well versed in the things I discuss.

I guess all the people I talk to don't FIT in your theory... Thank God.

Your response to this:

Most people have such busy lives that they don't even have time to know the mainstream knowledge that they are "supposed to know," let alone what is really going on.

Was this:

You're a genius. I'm stupid. Expound please.

How in the world would you come to the conclusion that I was calling you stupid in that sentence? Most people in America being too busy trying to make a living does not mean that they are stupid, it just means they have less time to sit around and dig deep into things.

So Airek, you want to know what is "really going on?" It has taken me damn near a decade of countless nights reading and reading and reading and researching everything to finally wake myself up, how would you expect me to do the same for you in a GFY thread?

Check out this old video of George, he pretty much lays it down in laymans terms:

I called myself stupid in an effort to get you to tell me why I'm so blind. You don't know what anyone's level of interest or education on a subject are. I get it. If you can't see that after the years you've been reading my posts then I don't know what to tell you. The fact that I am competitive and want one person to win over another has zero to do with me thinking anyone will accomplish anything. Please. I only play a moron on TV.


Edit: FYI George rocks. Yes he nails it. Of course I get it, but you are right, many Americans do not.

Not that debates necessarily matter, but it was clearly another victory for Obama. More focused, more coherent, more specific, overall better answers.

All in all, not an impressive debate at all. Very boring. Same info as the previous one.

The way that the elite families of old control everything is through the money, through the Federal Reserve. Getting rid of the FED would basically be like chopping off the head of the snake. The control and issuance of money should be in the hands of the Treasury, not a private central bank. The founding fathers warned us about central banks all the time. That would be the first step we would have to take to reclaim our country, but we are still at a point where abolishing the FED is looked at as a crazy notion, obviously because people do not understand the treasonous Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and what it did to our country.

Another thing that we the people could do, is NOT VOTE IN a Republican or Democrat. But we as a country are still so fucking manipulated that it looks like that will never happen. People simply don't want to believe that this whole system is controlled by a select few elites at the top.

It's basically what Hitler called the Big Lie:

It was defined by Adolf Hitler in his 1925 autobiography Mein Kampf as a lie so "colossal" that no one would believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

The truth is simply ridiculous to those who don't understand what's going on, and I don't blame them, because they can't believe that someone could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.

Woodrow Wilson signed the treasonous Federal Reserve Act of 1913 into law, and here is a quote from him:

"A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." - Woodrow Wilson

Charles August Lindbergh, former U.S. congressman during the time of the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and father of famous aviator Charles Lindbergh had this to say about the Federal Reserve Act:

"To cause high prices, all the Federal Reserve Board will do will be to lower the rediscount rate..., producing an expansion of credit and a rising stock market; then when ... business men are adjusted to these conditions, it can check ... prosperity in mid career by arbitrarily raising the rate of interest. It can cause the pendulum of a rising and falling market to swing gently back and forth by slight changes in the discount rate, or cause violent fluctuations by a greater rate variation and in either case it will possess inside information as to financial conditions and advance knowledge of the coming change, either up or down. This is the strangest, most dangerous advantage ever placed in the hands of a special privilege class by any Government that ever existed. The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money. They know in advance when to create panics to their advantage, They also know when to stop panic. Inflation and deflation work equally well for them when they control finance."

"The financial system [...] has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That board administers the finance system by authority of [...] a purely profiteering group. The system is private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money."

"This Act establishes the most gigantic trust on Earth. When the President signs this bill, the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalized, the people may not know it immediately but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed.... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking bill."

Just some food for thought... :2 cents: