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  • PornHero
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 1381
    #1

    The stock market will never be the same...

    ...at least not in our lifetime.

    I've learned a $100,000+ lesson the past few weeks.

    I'm 37 so I have a while before I retire but I feel very sorry for those people who retire in 10 years or less and who've seen their portfolio values plummet.

    Here is my new investment plan:

    BUILD MORE SITES.

    SOCK AWAY MY SAVINGS IN CASH, CASH EQUIVALENTS, GICs etc.

    PAY OFF THE MORTGAGE.

    DONT EVER WATCH CNBC AGAIN.

    I'm taking the slow, secure road to being a millionaire from here on.

    I'll never trust the stock market again.
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    • Eriic
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jan 2008
      • 2995
      #2
      Oh my God are you sure Mr.Wizard?

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        • tony299
          lurker
          • Aug 2002
          • 57021
          #3
          That sucks and I listen to Clark Howard and you hear these old people and they are freaking out. My heart goes to them.I think its been too crazy. Companies making huge profits but dont meet expectations so their stock drops.Its nuts. I think it has to come back to reality.

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            • Eriic
              So Fucking Banned
              • Jan 2008
              • 2995
              #4
              Originally posted by PornHero
              ...at least not in our lifetime.

              I've learned a $100,000+ lesson the past few weeks.

              I'm 37 so I have a while before I retire but I feel very sorry for those people who retire in 10 years or less and who've seen their portfolio values plummet.

              Here is my new investment plan:

              BUILD MORE SITES.

              SOCK AWAY MY SAVINGS IN CASH, CASH EQUIVALENTS, GICs etc.

              PAY OFF THE MORTGAGE.

              DONT EVER WATCH CNBC AGAIN.

              I'm taking the slow, secure road to being a millionaire from here on.

              I'll never trust the stock market again.
              Very wise to put all your assets into guys who pump their joy sticks to dirty pictures then after the moment has passed they call their credit card company an deny ever visiting your site

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                • tranza
                  ICQ: 197-556-237
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 57559
                  #5
                  I've learned a $30k lesson too.

                  I'm just a newbie.

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                    • deef-thp
                      Confirmed User
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 371
                      #6
                      A good lesson for everyone: "It's not what you make, it's what you keep".

                      Remember that 'ol saying?
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                        • EscortBiz
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                          • May 2002
                          • 19422
                          #7
                          Originally posted by deef-thp
                          A good lesson for everyone: "It's not what you make, it's what you keep".

                          Remember that 'ol saying?
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                            • baddog
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 107089
                              #8
                              Sorry to hear about the loss, glad to hear the lesson learned.

                              I remember when the market was like 3,000, then blam, it skyrocketed. I never trusted that. Was kind of like how they said my house tripled in value less than a year after I bought it.

                              That stuff just isn't realistic.

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                                • CunningStunt
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Aug 2006
                                  • 5594
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by tranza
                                  I've learned a $30k lesson too.

                                  I'm around that bracket too

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                                    • PornHero
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Feb 2001
                                      • 1381
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Eriic
                                      Very wise to put all your assets into guys who pump their joy sticks to dirty pictures then after the moment has passed they call their credit card company an deny ever visiting your site
                                      that's funny, through all this, my internet assets are the assets that continue to hold their value.

                                      Porn assets are proving to be more stable than stocks. Now I am just going to continue to let those porn assets throw off cash and save the cash rather than put it into stocks.
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                                        • Eriic
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jan 2008
                                          • 2995
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by baddog
                                          Sorry to hear about the loss, glad to hear the lesson learned.

                                          I remember when the market was like 3,000, then blam, it skyrocketed. I never trusted that. Was kind of like how they said my house tripled in value less than a year after I bought it.

                                          That stuff just isn't realistic.
                                          I was certain that your power of thought was retrograded, well you certainly provide enough evidence that it is every time you post

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                                            • PornHero
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2001
                                              • 1381
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by tranza
                                              I've learned a $30k lesson too.

                                              that sucks, its sickening to see that money evaporate isnt it.

                                              I just keep telling my self "thank god for porn".

                                              I've found over the past 10 years its negative events like this that spur me on to build my business even more. I remember a few years back when Yahoo stopped using Google's search results my business crashed bigtime but it made me work even harder and I think I ended up ahead. I hope thats the case this time around too.
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                                                • IllTestYourGirls
                                                  Ah My Balls
                                                  • Feb 2007
                                                  • 14311
                                                  #13
                                                  Do you really think your savings are safe in dollars?

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                                                    • xmas13
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                      • 5176
                                                      #14
                                                      In 10 years, 1m will be 500k, purchasing power adjusted. Some people can be so naive.
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                                                        • xmas13
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                          • 5176
                                                          #15
                                                          Last edited by xmas13; 10-07-2008, 03:59 PM.
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                                                            • Supz
                                                              Arthur Flegenheimer
                                                              • Jul 2006
                                                              • 11057
                                                              #16
                                                              investing is gambling. not a source of income. to many people make this mistake.

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                                                                • PornHero
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 1381
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by xmas13
                                                                  In 10 years, 1m will be 500k, purchasing power adjusted. Some people can be so naive.
                                                                  Thats why its important to always have a business that continually provides income and produces cash - in addition to the savings account, wise guy.
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                                                                    • Manowar
                                                                      jellyfish  
                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                      • 71528
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by PornHero
                                                                      Thats why its important to always have a business that continually provides income and produces cash - in addition to the savings account, wise guy.
                                                                      Good plan

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                                                                        • PornHero
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                          • 1381
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by IllTestYourGirls
                                                                          Do you really think your savings are safe in dollars?
                                                                          I was thinking about whether I can trust keeping my money in cash/gold/under my mattress.

                                                                          I figure if that shit hits the fan with the dollar/currency then I'll have bigger problems than worrying about my savings....like how to barricade myself in my house from the looters and rioters outside since all hell will probably break loose.


                                                                          Oh no, the US dollar has just been devalued. My $1 million is only $500k now. and nobody wants to buy my gold.


                                                                          Oh no, here come the looters and rioters. Better hit GFY and get some sound advice from the know-it-alls like Eriic, xmas13 and IllTestYourGirls - who probably never had any savings in their life.
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                                                                            • sweetcuties
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2002
                                                                              • 5859
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Holy shit man, you serious?? I thought I lost a shitload... I agree, CNBC, Cramer and the rest of the pieces are shit are good for nothing

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                                                                                • Ethersync
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2008
                                                                                  • 5289
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Sorry to hear about your loss.

                                                                                  I'm glad I got out of the market when I did. I got a 91% return, cashed out and put it all in gold when it was $600 to $700 an ounce. If gold takes off like I do believe it will...
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                                                                                    • xmas13
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2004
                                                                                      • 5176
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Paying off mortgages and saving money is not an investment plan.

                                                                                      1m is not "rich" now, won't be in 15 or 20 years.

                                                                                      Also, if you make a lot of money, you are already "rich".
                                                                                      Last edited by xmas13; 10-07-2008, 05:02 PM.
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                                                                                        • PornHero
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                          • 1381
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by sweetcuties
                                                                                          Holy shit man, you serious?? I thought I lost a shitload... I agree, CNBC, Cramer and the rest of the pieces are shit are good for nothing

                                                                                          yeah it sucks monkey balls. But hey, easy come easy go. I still thank god everyday for the adult internet business and that fact i dont have to:

                                                                                          - get up with an alarm clock.
                                                                                          - fight rush hour traffic TWICE a day like I used to.
                                                                                          - forced to do what a retarded boss says
                                                                                          - need annual "Performance Reviews" yuck.

                                                                                          and so on and so forth.
                                                                                          PornHero.com

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                                                                                            • V_RocKs
                                                                                              Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                                                              • Nov 2003
                                                                                              • 32449
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              This isn't the first time the stock market took a dive and it won't be the last.

                                                                                              You have a $100K portfolio... it is now worth $70K... You wait 10 years... the exact same stock without adding any new additions is worth $150K...

                                                                                              Basically you don't sell stock when it takes a dive.. .you buy a ton of it...

                                                                                              The additional $20K you bought when it was low is worth $45K in that ten years.. you get the idea.. I hope.

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                                                                                                • PornHero
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                                  • 1381
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                  This isn't the first time the stock market took a dive and it won't be the last.

                                                                                                  You have a $100K portfolio... it is now worth $70K... You wait 10 years... the exact same stock without adding any new additions is worth $150K...

                                                                                                  Basically you don't sell stock when it takes a dive.. .you buy a ton of it...

                                                                                                  The additional $20K you bought when it was low is worth $45K in that ten years.. you get the idea.. I hope.
                                                                                                  I hope your right... I havent sold the stock yet but it hurts to see $100k evaporate in a matter of weeks.

                                                                                                  I do think though that this time is different. This isnt just a fear of a slowing economy or a terrorist attack. This exposes a fundamental instability/flaw in the system. Its a system that can do longer be trusted.
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                                                                                                    • SomeCreep
                                                                                                      :glugglug
                                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                                      • 26118
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by PornHero
                                                                                                      I do think though that this time is different. This isnt just a fear of a slowing economy or a terrorist attack. This exposes a fundamental instability/flaw in the system. Its a system that can do longer be trusted.
                                                                                                      That's what everyone says every time we have a bear market. This is a typical bear market. And btw, "unprecedented" events occur in every bear market.

                                                                                                      Currently, all the major indices are down 30% from their highs. The average bear market declines 20 - 30% peak to trough. Historically, the worse bear markets decline 50% from peak to trough. Lets say this particular bear market is going to be a really bad one. That means at most, the major indices will decline about 20% further from here. Also, your average bear market lasts approximately 600 days. Were about 300 days into our bear market.

                                                                                                      All of the permanent damage will be done in the financials and housing sector. With a few exceptions, just about every other sector will recover just fine once wall street determines the economy is no longer in recession or heading deeper into recession.
                                                                                                      Last edited by SomeCreep; 10-07-2008, 09:30 PM.

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                                                                                                        • onlymovies
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Sep 2003
                                                                                                          • 906
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by PornHero
                                                                                                          I hope your right... I havent sold the stock yet but it hurts to see $100k evaporate in a matter of weeks.
                                                                                                          The days will grow much slower if you keep looking at it. Don't sell. Just leave it alone, forget about it and turn off CNBC. Look at it again in 5 years. This is not the first time it's happened and won't be the last. But until your faith is restored, keep any new income stashed away...and start building up that savings account.

                                                                                                          It's hard to keep your chin up when 100k is out the door and even harder to imagine brighter days in the market...but the other option is scooping up tons or bargin stock out there. And i'm sure that's hard to think about when 100k has been lost and even harder to actually do when in that mind frame....definately not for the faint of heart.
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                                                                                                            • brand0n
                                                                                                              been very busy
                                                                                                              • Nov 2002
                                                                                                              • 26983
                                                                                                              #28
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                                                                                                                • flashfire
                                                                                                                  ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                  • 13098
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  yeah man...5% GICs look pretty good right about now

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                                                                                                                    • qwe
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • Jul 2003
                                                                                                                      • 2109
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      if you can, you have to average down at these prices... yes you need more money and can be down more, but if you down 100k i assume your stock dropped over 40%... you can bring your average down big time, and when things will start to recover you can brake even ALOT sooner

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                                                                                                                        • pornguy
                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                          • Mar 2003
                                                                                                                          • 62912
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                                          This isn't the first time the stock market took a dive and it won't be the last.

                                                                                                                          You have a $100K portfolio... it is now worth $70K... You wait 10 years... the exact same stock without adding any new additions is worth $150K...

                                                                                                                          Basically you don't sell stock when it takes a dive.. .you buy a ton of it...

                                                                                                                          The additional $20K you bought when it was low is worth $45K in that ten years.. you get the idea.. I hope.
                                                                                                                          Yep. But we need to get people to turn off the FUCKING TV and start to think again for themselves.
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                                                                                                                            • Ethersync
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2008
                                                                                                                              • 5289
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                                                                                              Basically you don't sell stock when it takes a dive.. .you buy a ton of it...
                                                                                                                              Tell that to people who bought stock in Lehman right before it tanked thinking it was a bargain...

                                                                                                                              You are right to a degree, but you are oversimplifying things a bit
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                                                                                                                                • woj
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                                                                                                                                  • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 47882
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  good rule is buy when everyone else is selling
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                                                                                                                                    • woj
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                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 47882
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Ethersync
                                                                                                                                      Tell that to people who bought stock in Lehman right before it tanked thinking it was a bargain...

                                                                                                                                      You are right to a degree, but you are oversimplifying things a bit
                                                                                                                                      you can find exceptions to every rule... but those that buy stocks now, will make some nice $$ when the market rebounds within a few years
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                                                                                                                                        • ADL Colin
                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                                                                                                          • 11929
                                                                                                                                          #35
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