Whats wrong with NastyDollars - GoFuckYourself.com

RMG · 11-01-2002, 08:56 PM

Not a single person I've talked to is doing better than 1:1000 and most are much worse. I'm using a very targetted method of advertising and should be seeing 1:50-100 convertions yet I haven't been able to get a signup in over 600 uniques.

What is the deal? Anyone having luck with these guys. There program looks great, except it isnt turning a dime.

Sly_RJ · 11-01-2002, 08:59 PM

Well, I'm getting 1:700. Give you any hopes?

Brown Bear · 11-01-2002, 09:01 PM

Ummm....can you say "overexposed"?

frankfortuna · 11-01-2002, 09:01 PM

1:500 to 1:700 with SE traffic.

twistyneck · 11-01-2002, 09:01 PM

Less than 1:100. Very highly filtered traffic however.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:03 PM

nobody converts over 1/400 with us

All our sites have a $1 trial for a month so it converts extremely well on our freefreeprogram.com

Just promote us and say the site is Only $1 for a membership and you won't belive how many preople drop there cards

RMG · 11-01-2002, 09:04 PM

PornKings...i'm looking for ND feedback, not spam...thanks.

Exxxotica · 11-01-2002, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
nobody converts over 1/400 with us

All our sites have a $1 trial for a month so it converts extremely well on our freefreeprogram.com

Just promote us and say the site is Only $1 for a membership and you won't belive how many preople drop there cards

Jesus Cash converts at 1:50

Exxxotica · 11-01-2002, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
Not a single person I've talked to is doing better than 1:1000 and most are much worse. I'm using a very targetted method of advertising and should be seeing 1:50-100 convertions yet I haven't been able to get a signup in over 600 uniques.

What is the deal? Anyone having luck with these guys. There program looks great, except it isnt turning a dime.

I was 1:800 for Oct. 1:1300 since the begining.

Thats with standard TGP traffic.

RMG · 11-01-2002, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear
Ummm....can you say "overexposed"?

Maybe, But a good bit of my traffic is SE and I do not list any galleries, nor use TGP galleries to promote them.

Sly_RJ · 11-01-2002, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
nobody converts over 1/400 with us

All our sites have a $1 trial for a month so it converts extremely well on our freefreeprogram.com

Just promote us and say the site is Only $1 for a membership and you won't belive how many preople drop there cards

Sad.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
PornKings...i'm looking for ND feedback, not spam...thanks.

What I don't understand if your not doing well move on to the next. till your happy.

Sly_RJ · 11-01-2002, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by frankfortuna
1:500 to 1:700 with SE traffic.

What kind of SE traffic? Sounds like they're pretty broad keywords.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Sad.

Sad?

why cause I know I can make you guys more.

Like I said if you don't do well feel free to post ,
Thats how sure I am of our program.

I put my balls on the table

RMG · 11-01-2002, 09:09 PM

PK, I'm trying to....NDs program fits perfectly into my advertising model, yet they arent making me any cash. Finding another to replace it isnt easy because hardly any paysites want to form partnerships for SE traffic.

XXXPaysiteDesign · 11-01-2002, 09:10 PM

1:2500 for october using their free hosted galleries

russian_agent_69 · 11-01-2002, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
nobody converts over 1/400 with us

All our sites have a $1 trial for a month so it converts extremely well on our freefreeprogram.com

Just promote us and say the site is Only $1 for a membership and you won't belive how many preople drop there cards

When comparing programs, you need to compare apples to apples Pornkings. If I recall, you do not count first page clicks, ND does.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
PK, I'm trying to....NDs program fits perfectly into my advertising model, yet they arent making me any cash. Finding another to replace it isnt easy because hardly any paysites want to form partnerships for SE traffic.

I don't really understand what you mean.
We buy a ton of SE traffic whats the problem>
Why doesn't anyone want to form a partnership For SE traffic?

we also have a Search engine www.cyberspace.com

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by russian_agent_69

When comparing programs, you need to compare apples to apples Pornkings. If I recall, you do not count first page clicks, ND does.

Do they pay on clicks? If so then I understand

Yes we count second page but if you need to know first page raw or what ever call me and I can give you those stats.

our new improved Pornkings will count all pages so you can better target and promote us.

the bottom line is how much you make at the end of the day who cares what the hit count is. its all about how many joins you get

russian_agent_69 · 11-01-2002, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

Do they pay on clicks?

No they do not. My point is, a 1:1000 first page ratio cannot be compared to a 1:400 ratio using your scheme.

FATPad · 11-01-2002, 09:18 PM

About 1:350 the last 3 months with them. Hasn't changed considerably over the last few weeks.

RMG · 11-01-2002, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

I don't really understand what you mean.
We buy a ton of SE traffic whats the problem>
Why doesn't anyone want to form a partnership For SE traffic?

we also have a Search engine www.cyberspace.com

You guess is as good as mine...none of the more respected sponsors want to supply me with content to push their programs. I'm looking into other sources as we speak.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:20 PM

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Originally posted by russian_agent_69

No they do not. My point is, a 1:1000 first page ratio cannot be compared to a 1:400 ratio using your scheme.

Are you crazy we convert 1/400 easy off first page raw hits.

I can always give you that info if needed.

russian_agent_69 · 11-01-2002, 09:21 PM

You must have the shaver on big time then. I promoted you once and only saw a fraction of the uniques I sent.

hyper · 11-01-2002, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

What I don't understand if your not doing well move on to the next. till your happy.

thats very true roger
just because someone elses traffic converts 1 in 400
does not mean your traffic will
so keep trying different sponsors till u get one that works

there are many factors involved
but due to the people i try to help shitting on me
everyone can find out the reasons for your own fucking self

Sly_RJ · 11-01-2002, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

Sad?

why cause I know I can make you guys more.

Like I said if you don't do well feel free to post ,
Thats how sure I am of our program.

I put my balls on the table

I don't doubt that you have a good program, I never did. I haven't tried it out yet, but I am thinking of trying Cherry Bucks, which seems to have some affiliation with you?

What's sad is that you rush in on a thread about a different sponsor, spam your program, and then walk away like you haven't done anything. That would be like Ronald McDonald walking into Wendy's and giving everyone a free Big Mac, or a coupon perhaps.

Not cool.

Hosting companies pull the same shit around here and they also get some flack, and rightfully so.

Exxxotica · 11-01-2002, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

What's sad is that you rush in on a thread about a different sponsor, spam your program, and then walk away like you haven't done anything. That would be like Ronald McDonald walking into Wendy's and giving everyone a free Big Mac, or a coupon perhaps.

Not cool.

Hosting companies pull the same shit around here and they also get some flack, and rightfully so.

Sly is correct.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

I don't doubt that you have a good program, I never did. I haven't tried it out yet, but I am thinking of trying Cherry Bucks, which seems to have some affiliation with you?

What's sad is that you rush in on a thread about a different sponsor, spam your program, and then walk away like you haven't done anything. That would be like Ronald McDonald walking into Wendy's and giving everyone a free Big Mac, or a coupon perhaps.

Not cool.

Hosting companies pull the same shit around here and they also get some flack, and rightfully so.

All I was trying to say is try everyone out. till your happy many good sponsors out there.

cherrybucks isn't the only one who has a full exit coming to me
I would say most of the big sponsors do.
I don't want to say who on GFybut you can call me anytime and I will tell you
800-230-1255

hyper · 11-01-2002, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

you can call me anytime
800-230-1255

mmm phone sex

daddynastee · 11-01-2002, 09:43 PM

About 1:450 and that's stayed consistent during the last 6 months.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by hyper

mmm phone sex

Ahh shit sorry its only for US and Canada callers

you can always ICQ me 161759738

Muff · 11-01-2002, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by hyper

mmm phone sex

Adding it to my gay site now.

Thanks Roger.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Muff

Adding it to my gay site now.

Thanks Roger.

HUH you got balls. but not for long then

If I get nasty calls. well lets just say you won't be happy

Exxxotica · 11-01-2002, 09:57 PM

This thread has been hijacked.

FlyingIguana · 11-01-2002, 09:58 PM

i was 1:350 last period, which is good considering they count a ton of clicks compaired to other sponsors.

Marcus · 11-01-2002, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
Not a single person I've talked to is doing better than 1:1000 and most are much worse.

For October I was at 1:848 with nothing more than a text link leading to the tour. No description or anything. On TGP traffic.

My ratio since the beginning of this year is 1:718, same text link, same traffic.

RMG · 11-01-2002, 10:04 PM

Ok, i'm completely stumped then.

I'm offering in-depth reviews. Trial price included.
free sample clips from the site....no misleading bullshit.

The clicks are there, but the conversions are not.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Exxxotica
This thread has been hijacked.

I didn't mean to Hijack I just thought it was another webmaster complaining about a program.
The way I see it if you don't do well Just move on to the next.

But I guess I miss understood the Post.

continue to help him with his conversions

kenny · 11-01-2002, 10:10 PM

I was 1:2000 using a sponsor during a month, then the next month it was doing 1:200. Go figure

Steve · 11-01-2002, 10:13 PM

tip for Roger:

"Gee, 1:1000? That isn't too hot. Maybe you should try pushing your traffic to another sponsor, and see if you get better results, You never know until you try."

Nice liltte friendly post, and YOU STILL GET YOUR SIG FILE POSTED!

With that big ass button, you don't need the hard sell, man.

Rory · 11-01-2002, 10:16 PM

Jesus christ porn kings why dont you just buy a banner on GFY and then "let the program speak for itself"? It just seems that every other thread I read you seem to come out of the blue and spam your program. Trust me everyone knows that your program is the collest around and converts leaps and bounds better than others, but let your program do some of the talking eh?

Rory

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory
Jesus christ porn kings why dont you just buy a banner on GFY and then "let the program speak for itself"? It just seems that every other thread I read you seem to come out of the blue and spam your program. Trust me everyone knows that your program is the collest around and converts leaps and bounds better than others, but let your program do some of the talking eh?

Rory

People don't post when a program kicks ass only when it doesn't

thats how ours speaks for itself no complaints.

And I'm not saying ND sucks I don't know I don't send them traffic
but if someone complains about a programs conversions

I'm going to either back them or take the heat of them.

For all I know there program kicks ass for most of there webmasters

All I'm saying is why Bitch about a sponsor when there are so many out there to promote.
If you don't convert with one move on to the next.

There are many sponsors I don't do well with but do you see me posting it anywhere?

hyper · 11-01-2002, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
Ok, i'm completely stumped then.

I'm offering in-depth reviews. Trial price included.
free sample clips from the site....no misleading bullshit.

The clicks are there, but the conversions are not.

RMG

these are words to live by.. i want you to memorize them

it is your job to get the surfer to the sponsor
if you have 10,000 page views and 0 click throughs
your not doing your job, go to www.monster.com

however if you get 10,000 page views and
2,000 click throughs to your sponsor but 0 sales
your sponsor is not doing his job and should be at www.monster.com and you should get a new sponsor

your responsibility is to send them the surfer
their responsibility is to convert the surfer

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper

RMG

these are words to live by.. i want you to memorize them

it is your job to get the surfer to the sponsor
if you have 10,000 page views and 0 click throughs
your not doing your job, go to www.monster.com

however if you get 10,000 page views and
2,000 click throughs to your sponsor but 0 sales
your sponsor is not doing his job and should be at www.monster.com and you should get a new sponsor

your responsibility is to send them the surfer
their responsibility is to convert the surfer

I havn't seen his pages but maybe your giving them to much and they can relieve themselves off your pages.

You have to also help sponsors and send them pre qualified traffic. target it on how they promote there sites.

hyper · 11-01-2002, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

I havn't seen his pages but maybe your giving them to much and they can relieve themselves off your pages.

You have to also help sponsors and send them pre qualified traffic target it.

yeah thats part of his job targeting the traffic to the sponsor
on second thought he should just go to www.monster.com

RMG · 11-01-2002, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings

People don't post when a program kicks ass only when it doesn't

thats how ours speaks for itself no complaints.

And I'm not saying ND sucks I don't know I don't send them traffic
but if someone complains about a programs conversions

I'm going to either back them or take the heat of them.

For all I know there program kicks ass for most of there webmasters

All I'm saying is why Bitch about a sponsor when there are so many out there to promote.
If you don't convert with one move on to the next.

There are many sponsors I don't do well with but do you see me posting it anywhere?

Roger, first of all, I was looking for ND feedback with this post and you come in and spam your program....gee thanks.

As far as webmastering, I know how to do my job...I was looking to see how others were doing, not which program I should switch to. Do yourself a favor and stop posting in this thread.

If I posted a thread "Roger please come spam me" then your replies would be welcome.

RMG · 11-01-2002, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper

RMG

these are words to live by.. i want you to memorize them

it is your job to get the surfer to the sponsor
if you have 10,000 page views and 0 click throughs
your not doing your job, go to www.monster.com

however if you get 10,000 page views and
2,000 click throughs to your sponsor but 0 sales
your sponsor is not doing his job and should be at www.monster.com and you should get a new sponsor

your responsibility is to send them the surfer
their responsibility is to convert the surfer

Yes, the clicks are there...teh conversions are not. I'm currently seeking out all alternatives.

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 11:09 PM

I'm just educating...

And next time email the sponsor or call them if your not happy.
Just like you ICQ'd me. It was simple right.
I'm not trying to bash you in anyway trust me thats not my style.
All I was trying to say if its not converting try someone else.
at the same time your right I was just informing webmasters on how well our program does. I don't see any harm in it.

If someone else was doing great right now I would post there program.
and I always recomend other sponsors who I do well with to webmasters.

I'm not worried

RMG · 11-01-2002, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
I'm just educating...

And next time email the sponsor or call them if your not happy.
Just like you ICQ'd me. It was simple right.
I'm not trying to bash you in anyway trust me thats not my style.
All I was trying to say if its not converting try someone else.
at the same time your right I was just informing webmasters on how well our program does. I don't see any harm in it.

If someone else was doing great right now I would post there program.
and I always recomend other sponsors who I do well with to webmasters.

I'm not worried

I ICQ'd you? i dont recall ever using one of your programs?

Pornkings · 11-01-2002, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG

I ICQ'd you? i dont recall ever using one of your programs?

Nevermind then it must have been someone else who read this post. who is going to send me traffic.

In any case
If you feel you did everything you could to convert it and it still didn't MMMM what should you do. switch programs.

11-01-2002, 08:56 PM	#1
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	Whats wrong with NastyDollars Not a single person I've talked to is doing better than 1:1000 and most are much worse. I'm using a very targetted method of advertising and should be seeing 1:50-100 convertions yet I haven't been able to get a signup in over 600 uniques. What is the deal? Anyone having luck with these guys. There program looks great, except it isnt turning a dime.

11-01-2002, 08:59 PM	#2
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11-01-2002, 09:03 PM	#6
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	nobody converts over 1/400 with us All our sites have a $1 trial for a month so it converts extremely well on our freefreeprogram.com Just promote us and say the site is Only $1 for a membership and you won't belive how many preople drop there cards __________________ Pornkings.com

11-01-2002, 09:10 PM	#16
XXXPaysiteDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,201	1:2500 for october using their free hosted galleries __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

11-01-2002, 09:01 PM	#4
frankfortuna Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 1,504	1:500 to 1:700 with SE traffic.

11-01-2002, 09:01 PM	#5
twistyneck So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hanging by the neck until dead. Posts: 4,660	Less than 1:100. Very highly filtered traffic however.

11-01-2002, 09:04 PM	#7
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	PornKings...i'm looking for ND feedback, not spam...thanks.

11-01-2002, 09:09 PM	#15
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	PK, I'm trying to....NDs program fits perfectly into my advertising model, yet they arent making me any cash. Finding another to replace it isnt easy because hardly any paysites want to form partnerships for SE traffic.

11-01-2002, 09:18 PM	#21
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11-01-2002, 09:21 PM	#24
russian_agent_69 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 247	You must have the shaver on big time then. I promoted you once and only saw a fraction of the uniques I sent.

11-01-2002, 09:43 PM	#30
daddynastee Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 310	About 1:450 and that's stayed consistent during the last 6 months.

11-01-2002, 09:57 PM	#34
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11-01-2002, 09:58 PM	#35
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	i was 1:350 last period, which is good considering they count a ton of clicks compaired to other sponsors.

11-01-2002, 10:04 PM	#37
RMG Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 542	Ok, i'm completely stumped then. I'm offering in-depth reviews. Trial price included. free sample clips from the site....no misleading bullshit. The clicks are there, but the conversions are not.

11-01-2002, 10:10 PM	#39
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	I was 1:2000 using a sponsor during a month, then the next month it was doing 1:200. Go figure

11-01-2002, 10:13 PM	#40
Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: USA Posts: 6,894	tip for Roger: "Gee, 1:1000? That isn't too hot. Maybe you should try pushing your traffic to another sponsor, and see if you get better results, You never know until you try." Nice liltte friendly post, and YOU STILL GET YOUR SIG FILE POSTED! With that big ass button, you don't need the hard sell, man.

11-01-2002, 10:16 PM	#41
Rory Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I Love Ixtapa, Mexico ö Posts: 616	Jesus christ porn kings why dont you just buy a banner on GFY and then "let the program speak for itself"? It just seems that every other thread I read you seem to come out of the blue and spam your program. Trust me everyone knows that your program is the collest around and converts leaps and bounds better than others, but let your program do some of the talking eh? Rory __________________ Promote a site that actually retains members!

11-01-2002, 11:09 PM	#48
Pornkings Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Roger V Posts: 5,334	I'm just educating... And next time email the sponsor or call them if your not happy. Just like you ICQ'd me. It was simple right. I'm not trying to bash you in anyway trust me thats not my style. All I was trying to say if its not converting try someone else. at the same time your right I was just informing webmasters on how well our program does. I don't see any harm in it. If someone else was doing great right now I would post there program. and I always recomend other sponsors who I do well with to webmasters. I'm not worried __________________ Pornkings.com