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Old 11-01-2002, 11:22 PM   #51
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I've been doing under 1:1000 with them for a while with tgp traffic only. Hell, I haven't even made a gallery for them in months and I still get sales every now and then.
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Old 11-02-2002, 12:52 AM   #52
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Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.
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Old 11-02-2002, 12:55 AM   #53
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Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.
was he advertising boys first time on a lesbian site?
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Old 11-02-2002, 01:06 AM   #54
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Old 11-02-2002, 01:30 AM   #55
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iam getting a nice 1:950
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Old 11-02-2002, 02:00 AM   #56
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Well thats very interesting that the PK (aka eroticash) has the time to jump in threads and spam their own program while they don't even take to time to respond to serious spam complaints about one of their affiliates ... Very interesting...

Not sure what i'm talking about ?
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...s ive+spammer

I sent you guys several times emails and received nothing from you back... + the sites in question is still active...

So much about TOS against spam... what a BS.


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Old 11-02-2002, 02:10 AM   #57
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Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.
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Old 11-02-2002, 02:21 AM   #58
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I see galleries like that all the time - no wonder some people say they can't make money at TGP
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Old 11-02-2002, 02:53 AM   #59
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rmg - i will open my stats extremly foolishly, but i hope for a reply from you quite honestly as a return.


Website Raw Clicks Unq Clicks Sales Payout Ratio
WivesinPantyhose 6022 3667 4 $140 1:916
Topshelfpussy 10421 6951 22 $770 1:315
TrannySurprise 4 4 0 $0 n/a
8thStreetLatinas 32 26 1 $35 1:26
Nasty Fetish 341 235 1 $35 1:235
MILFhunter 4834 3271 5 $175 1:654
MikesApartment 62233 34307 114 $3990 1:300
CaptainStabbin 2 2 0 $0 n/a
Cum Fiesta 23768 17266 61 $2135 1:283
Bignaturals 52110 29201 96 $3360 1:304
BoysFirstTime 60395 41276 275 $9625 1:150
AllAmateurMovies 2140 1026 0 $0 n/a
Total 222302 137232 579 $20265 1:237


This is avs traffic. Very targeted, you see. Traffic comes from avs linklists where i am bulksubmitting. in order to have many sites daily approved, i sell quite many avs passes from linklists that allow me to submit many sites daily eg http://www.avsseeker.com/
my sites look like: http://www.hotsexyneighbor.com/avs/n...n/fnpwarn.html


Now my question is: what exactly is your problem with sponsors and search engines? why dont they want se traffic? i always believed the legend (?) 1. se traffic is best 2. se traffic is hardest to get.
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Old 11-02-2002, 03:02 AM   #60
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So you wouldn't submit your sites to CyberAge?
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Old 11-02-2002, 03:14 AM   #61
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nobody converts over 1/400 with us

All our sites have a $1 trial for a month so it converts extremely well on our freefreeprogram.com

Just promote us and say the site is Only $1 for a membership and you won't belive how many preople drop there cards
I would send you some gay traffic, but they are all popup hells!
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Old 11-02-2002, 03:22 AM   #62
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'2. Commission. You will earn a Commission of Twenty Five United States dollars ($25.00) for each valid Trial. Aeroweb reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership '

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Old 11-02-2002, 03:50 AM   #63
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rmg - i will open my stats extremly foolishly, but i hope for a reply from you quite honestly as a return.


Website Raw Clicks Unq Clicks Sales Payout Ratio
WivesinPantyhose 6022 3667 4 $140 1:916
Topshelfpussy 10421 6951 22 $770 1:315
TrannySurprise 4 4 0 $0 n/a
8thStreetLatinas 32 26 1 $35 1:26
Nasty Fetish 341 235 1 $35 1:235
MILFhunter 4834 3271 5 $175 1:654
MikesApartment 62233 34307 114 $3990 1:300
CaptainStabbin 2 2 0 $0 n/a
Cum Fiesta 23768 17266 61 $2135 1:283
Bignaturals 52110 29201 96 $3360 1:304
BoysFirstTime 60395 41276 275 $9625 1:150
AllAmateurMovies 2140 1026 0 $0 n/a
Total 222302 137232 579 $20265 1:237


This is avs traffic. Very targeted, you see. Traffic comes from avs linklists where i am bulksubmitting. in order to have many sites daily approved, i sell quite many avs passes from linklists that allow me to submit many sites daily eg http://www.avsseeker.com/
my sites look like: http://www.hotsexyneighbor.com/avs/n...n/fnpwarn.html


Now my question is: what exactly is your problem with sponsors and search engines? why dont they want se traffic? i always believed the legend (?) 1. se traffic is best 2. se traffic is hardest to get.
I dont know, i've emailed a few sponsors askign to form partnerships. They provide me with content, I push their reviews on my site (gets 1k a day in SE traffic alone).
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Old 11-02-2002, 03:52 AM   #64
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Also, here is something I found quite odd in the NastyDollars stats interface. Take a look:

When I do a period report by "site" I get these numbers:

Total 789 534 0 $0 n/a

When I do a period report by "day" I get these numbers:

Total 789 534 0 $0 n/a

When I do a period report by "referrer" I get these numbers:

Total 789 221

The uniques are cut in half...WTF!?
How can they claim all signups are being tracked if this proves they are not?

Check your own stats guys, you'll probably see the same thing.
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Old 11-02-2002, 03:53 AM   #65
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Well thats very interesting that the PK (aka eroticash) has the time to jump in threads and spam their own program while they don't even take to time to respond to serious spam complaints about one of their affiliates ... Very interesting...

Not sure what i'm talking about ?
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...s ive+spammer

I sent you guys several times emails and received nothing from you back... + the sites in question is still active...

So much about TOS against spam... what a BS.


Michael
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Actually this is the first I've heard of this.
We don't have all the boards covered.



I will look into this.
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Old 11-02-2002, 04:09 AM   #67
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PK, hit me on icq..i have some questions about your program
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Old 11-02-2002, 04:10 AM   #68
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'2. Commission. You will earn a Commission of Twenty Five United States dollars ($25.00) for each valid Trial. Aeroweb reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership '

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Hmmm.... remind me never to promote Porn Kings.

Talk about fine print.
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ugh
Every webmaster so far has converted over 40%
don't you think if we didn't pay you would see posts about it?
also its just a buffer for someone who is trying to fraud us.

To this day everyone has been paid since 1996
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Hmmm.... remind me never to promote Porn Kings.

Talk about fine print.

If you don't Scam programs you don't need to worry about the fine print.

And if you don't get paid feel free to post.

Our conversions from trial to active are incredable since they don't feel pressured to cancel since they get a $1 trial for a month.
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Actually this is the first I've heard of this.
We don't have all the boards covered.



I will look into this.

Well, you've been receiving the Spam Complaint by EMAIL at your contact email adresses listed on your programs sites.

The forum thread link was just a little pointer about that matter.

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So you wouldn't submit your sites to CyberAge?
yes, i do submit to cyberage as well as ugas. send sales, and you dont have problems with the 5 sites per day limit.
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I dont know, i've emailed a few sponsors askign to form partnerships. They provide me with content, I push their reviews on my site (gets 1k a day in SE traffic alone).

hm... i tried to get content from many amateur sponsors for avs sites, i promised them 10 sales each day, they didn't want to, well....
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hm... i tried to get content from many amateur sponsors for avs sites, i promised them 10 sales each day, they didn't want to, well....
Some people are just retarded...who knows *shrug*
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Gee, 1:1000? That isn't too hot. Maybe you should try pushing your traffic to another sponsor, and see if you get better results, You never know until you try.

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Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.
How is that even possible? LOL You'd think at least 50 people out of 80k would have some sort of hand tremors and click the link by mistake.
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Old 11-02-2002, 10:15 AM   #77
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Hi

Im doing 1:300 with NastyDollars.. The latina site even did 1:170 for me for a long time, now im around 1:200 with that site. I've got no complaints whatsoever, although I have had a huge slowdown in October, the sales are still good. Ohyeah, all of these ratio's are on pure TGP traffic... Guess it's all about how you promote it ;)
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Old 11-02-2002, 11:00 AM   #78
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We send NastyDollars some exit traffic, and while it's not doing 1/200 or anything crazy like that, it does respectably for what it is. So we continue to send them the traffic.

We have sent traffic to at least two of the sponsors posting in this thread, one still gets our traffic, one does not, due to conversion ratios and total dollars earned.

As for the oversaturation comment, I don't buy it -- you know why? We convert Kara's XXX from Maxcash UNDER 1/500 with exit traffic, day in, day out (of course I hope I'm not jinxing it lol, it's been this way for years) and Kara's has to be one of THE most saturated sites ever, if not THE most.

RMG, I am not sure why your traffic isn't converting well with Nasty -- is this same traffic doing well with another sponsor? If so, figuring out why you do well with one sponsor and not another on the same traffic is sometimes impossible, you chalk it up to life and move on. But then again you may be promoting the other sponsor differently without knowing or realizing it.

If you want someone to take a look at your pages, I'd be happy to, we have several folks with review style sites that do really well, and while I would not show you their urls I would be happy to point out some things I see them doing if they are different from your own. I am not asking you to use our program, I am just offering an eye over your sites to see if I can help if you like -- my email is [email protected] and I'll be back in a few hours.
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the bottom line is how much you make at the end of the day who cares what the hit count is. its all about how many joins you get
I AGREE
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As for the oversaturation comment, I don't buy it -- you know why? We convert Kara's XXX from Maxcash UNDER 1/500 with exit traffic, day in, day out (of course I hope I'm not jinxing it lol, it's been this way for years) and Kara's has to be one of THE most saturated sites ever, if not THE most.

I agree. I'm doing 1:80 with Kara's and have been for months. Kara's was my very first porn sale.
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I agree. I'm doing 1:80 with Kara's and have been for months. Kara's was my very first porn sale.
maxcash was my first per sign up program and i did ok with it, but now i can't sell anything from maxcash. weird.
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We do ok with Nasty Dollars our ratio definately changes according to how much we actively promote which hasn't been much the last couple of months due to design work taking all of our time elsewhere but I haven't found any issues with them. I think they are affiliated with OxCash in some respect though and I have had really rotten luck with them. No conversions whatsoever. And a question to you pornkings is your program affiliated with porn for a dollar (p4d) if it is you need to get in contact with me dude because they screwed us and our business partner six ways to sunday by not paying us for signups or promoting them in our signature.
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I'm sure there are some people out there making money with them. How else would they still be around.

As for my experience:

I stopped sending them traffic this past summer. I sent them targetted niche-specific gallery traffic from targetted email lists. These lists convert normally erratic sponsors like ARS 1:200. With ND, 0:8000 What a waste.
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you on icq?

if so gimme a shout!

otherwise shoot me an e-mail
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Bottom line it that different traffic converts differently with different programs. I use Nasty Dollars as my bottom banner on avs sites (who knows why this works) and seem to do decent with the small amount of traffic that I send them. Here are stats :

Website Raw Clicks Unq Clicks Sales Payout Ratio
WivesinPantyhose 136 91 2 $70 1:45
Topshelfpussy 2 2 0 $0 n/a
Nasty Fetish 1 1 0 $0 n/a
MILFhunter 252 141 2 $70 1:70
MikesApartment 45 41 0 $0 n/a
Cum Fiesta 2585 1737 14 $490 1:124
Bignaturals 265 150 4 $140 1:37
AllAmateurMovies 67 41 0 $0 n/a
Total 3353 2204 22 $770 1:100


Like I said we dont send much traffic at them , but it just seems to work better for us when its sitting in the bottom banner spot on avs sites. All that traffic is displayed only a banner in the appropriate niche.

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Try Morecash.com at http://www.morecash.com . Got some really unique sites that convert about 1/200 .
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We do ok with Nasty Dollars our ratio definately changes according to how much we actively promote which hasn't been much the last couple of months due to design work taking all of our time elsewhere but I haven't found any issues with them. I think they are affiliated with OxCash in some respect though and I have had really rotten luck with them. No conversions whatsoever. And a question to you pornkings is your program affiliated with porn for a dollar (p4d) if it is you need to get in contact with me dude because they screwed us and our business partner six ways to sunday by not paying us for signups or promoting them in our signature.

we are not affiliated with P4d in anyway.
our program is freefreeprogram aka Porn4aBuck
the only agreement we have with them is they are porn4aDollar
and we are porn4abuck.

but the program and payouts are much differant.

Have you tried contacting them. If I could help in anyway hit me up on ICQ. during the week.
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Old 11-02-2002, 06:58 PM   #91
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Gee, 1:1000? That isn't too hot. Maybe you should try pushing your traffic to another sponsor, and see if you get better results, You never know until you try.


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