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Rory 11-01-2002 10:16 PM

Jesus christ porn kings why dont you just buy a banner on GFY and then "let the program speak for itself"? It just seems that every other thread I read you seem to come out of the blue and spam your program. Trust me everyone knows that your program is the collest around and converts leaps and bounds better than others, but let your program do some of the talking eh?

Rory
:helpme

Pornkings 11-01-2002 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rory
Jesus christ porn kings why dont you just buy a banner on GFY and then "let the program speak for itself"? It just seems that every other thread I read you seem to come out of the blue and spam your program. Trust me everyone knows that your program is the collest around and converts leaps and bounds better than others, but let your program do some of the talking eh?

Rory
:helpme


People don't post when a program kicks ass only when it doesn't

thats how ours speaks for itself no complaints.

And I'm not saying ND sucks I don't know I don't send them traffic
but if someone complains about a programs conversions

I'm going to either back them or take the heat of them.

For all I know there program kicks ass for most of there webmasters

All I'm saying is why Bitch about a sponsor when there are so many out there to promote.
If you don't convert with one move on to the next.

There are many sponsors I don't do well with but do you see me posting it anywhere?

hyper 11-01-2002 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
Ok, i'm completely stumped then.

I'm offering in-depth reviews. Trial price included.
free sample clips from the site....no misleading bullshit.

The clicks are there, but the conversions are not.

RMG

these are words to live by.. i want you to memorize them

it is your job to get the surfer to the sponsor
if you have 10,000 page views and 0 click throughs
your not doing your job, go to www.monster.com

however if you get 10,000 page views and
2,000 click throughs to your sponsor but 0 sales
your sponsor is not doing his job and should be at www.monster.com and you should get a new sponsor

your responsibility is to send them the surfer
their responsibility is to convert the surfer

Pornkings 11-01-2002 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper

RMG

these are words to live by.. i want you to memorize them

it is your job to get the surfer to the sponsor
if you have 10,000 page views and 0 click throughs
your not doing your job, go to www.monster.com

however if you get 10,000 page views and
2,000 click throughs to your sponsor but 0 sales
your sponsor is not doing his job and should be at www.monster.com and you should get a new sponsor

your responsibility is to send them the surfer
their responsibility is to convert the surfer

I havn't seen his pages but maybe your giving them to much and they can relieve themselves off your pages.

You have to also help sponsors and send them pre qualified traffic. target it on how they promote there sites.

hyper 11-01-2002 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings


I havn't seen his pages but maybe your giving them to much and they can relieve themselves off your pages.

You have to also help sponsors and send them pre qualified traffic target it.

yeah thats part of his job targeting the traffic to the sponsor
on second thought he should just go to www.monster.com

RMG 11-01-2002 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings



People don't post when a program kicks ass only when it doesn't

thats how ours speaks for itself no complaints.

And I'm not saying ND sucks I don't know I don't send them traffic
but if someone complains about a programs conversions

I'm going to either back them or take the heat of them.

For all I know there program kicks ass for most of there webmasters

All I'm saying is why Bitch about a sponsor when there are so many out there to promote.
If you don't convert with one move on to the next.

There are many sponsors I don't do well with but do you see me posting it anywhere?

Roger, first of all, I was looking for ND feedback with this post and you come in and spam your program....gee thanks.

As far as webmastering, I know how to do my job...I was looking to see how others were doing, not which program I should switch to. Do yourself a favor and stop posting in this thread.

If I posted a thread "Roger please come spam me" then your replies would be welcome.

RMG 11-01-2002 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hyper

RMG

these are words to live by.. i want you to memorize them

it is your job to get the surfer to the sponsor
if you have 10,000 page views and 0 click throughs
your not doing your job, go to www.monster.com

however if you get 10,000 page views and
2,000 click throughs to your sponsor but 0 sales
your sponsor is not doing his job and should be at www.monster.com and you should get a new sponsor

your responsibility is to send them the surfer
their responsibility is to convert the surfer

Yes, the clicks are there...teh conversions are not. I'm currently seeking out all alternatives.

Pornkings 11-01-2002 11:09 PM

I'm just educating...

And next time email the sponsor or call them if your not happy.
Just like you ICQ'd me. It was simple right.
I'm not trying to bash you in anyway trust me thats not my style.
All I was trying to say if its not converting try someone else.
at the same time your right I was just informing webmasters on how well our program does. I don't see any harm in it.

If someone else was doing great right now I would post there program.
and I always recomend other sponsors who I do well with to webmasters.

I'm not worried

RMG 11-01-2002 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
I'm just educating...

And next time email the sponsor or call them if your not happy.
Just like you ICQ'd me. It was simple right.
I'm not trying to bash you in anyway trust me thats not my style.
All I was trying to say if its not converting try someone else.
at the same time your right I was just informing webmasters on how well our program does. I don't see any harm in it.

If someone else was doing great right now I would post there program.
and I always recomend other sponsors who I do well with to webmasters.

I'm not worried

I ICQ'd you? i dont recall ever using one of your programs?

Pornkings 11-01-2002 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG


I ICQ'd you? i dont recall ever using one of your programs?

Nevermind then it must have been someone else who read this post. who is going to send me traffic.

In any case
If you feel you did everything you could to convert it and it still didn't MMMM what should you do. switch programs.

421Fill 11-01-2002 11:22 PM

I've been doing under 1:1000 with them for a while with tgp traffic only. Hell, I haven't even made a gallery for them in months and I still get sales every now and then.

The Other Steve 11-02-2002 12:52 AM

Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.

FlyingIguana 11-02-2002 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.

was he advertising boys first time on a lesbian site?

The Other Steve 11-02-2002 01:06 AM

well anything is possible with this guy :)

cat 11-02-2002 01:30 AM

iam getting a nice 1:950

MichaelH 11-02-2002 02:00 AM

Well thats very interesting that the PK (aka eroticash) has the time to jump in threads and spam their own program while they don't even take to time to respond to serious spam complaints about one of their affiliates ... Very interesting...

Not sure what i'm talking about ?
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...s ive+spammer

I sent you guys several times emails and received nothing from you back... + the sites in question is still active...

So much about TOS against spam... what a BS.


Michael
PS : Your sponsor programs are blacklisted on my sites. Bye.

Muff 11-02-2002 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.

Yeah I think I saw this guys gallery it looked like

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The Other Steve 11-02-2002 02:21 AM

I see galleries like that all the time - no wonder some people say they can't make money at TGP :)

Terenzo 11-02-2002 02:53 AM

rmg - i will open my stats extremly foolishly, but i hope for a reply from you quite honestly as a return.


Website Raw Clicks Unq Clicks Sales Payout Ratio
WivesinPantyhose 6022 3667 4 $140 1:916
Topshelfpussy 10421 6951 22 $770 1:315
TrannySurprise 4 4 0 $0 n/a
8thStreetLatinas 32 26 1 $35 1:26
Nasty Fetish 341 235 1 $35 1:235
MILFhunter 4834 3271 5 $175 1:654
MikesApartment 62233 34307 114 $3990 1:300
CaptainStabbin 2 2 0 $0 n/a
Cum Fiesta 23768 17266 61 $2135 1:283
Bignaturals 52110 29201 96 $3360 1:304
BoysFirstTime 60395 41276 275 $9625 1:150
AllAmateurMovies 2140 1026 0 $0 n/a
Total 222302 137232 579 $20265 1:237


This is avs traffic. Very targeted, you see. Traffic comes from avs linklists where i am bulksubmitting. in order to have many sites daily approved, i sell quite many avs passes from linklists that allow me to submit many sites daily eg http://www.avsseeker.com/
my sites look like: http://www.hotsexyneighbor.com/avs/n...n/fnpwarn.html


Now my question is: what exactly is your problem with sponsors and search engines? why dont they want se traffic? i always believed the legend (?) 1. se traffic is best 2. se traffic is hardest to get.

The Other Steve 11-02-2002 03:02 AM

So you wouldn't submit your sites to CyberAge?

Darkystar 11-02-2002 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings
nobody converts over 1/400 with us

All our sites have a $1 trial for a month so it converts extremely well on our freefreeprogram.com

Just promote us and say the site is Only $1 for a membership and you won't belive how many preople drop there cards

I would send you some gay traffic, but they are all popup hells!

FlyingIguana 11-02-2002 03:22 AM

pornkings

'2. Commission. You will earn a Commission of Twenty Five United States dollars ($25.00) for each valid Trial. Aeroweb reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership '

ugh

RMG 11-02-2002 03:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Terenzo
rmg - i will open my stats extremly foolishly, but i hope for a reply from you quite honestly as a return.


Website Raw Clicks Unq Clicks Sales Payout Ratio
WivesinPantyhose 6022 3667 4 $140 1:916
Topshelfpussy 10421 6951 22 $770 1:315
TrannySurprise 4 4 0 $0 n/a
8thStreetLatinas 32 26 1 $35 1:26
Nasty Fetish 341 235 1 $35 1:235
MILFhunter 4834 3271 5 $175 1:654
MikesApartment 62233 34307 114 $3990 1:300
CaptainStabbin 2 2 0 $0 n/a
Cum Fiesta 23768 17266 61 $2135 1:283
Bignaturals 52110 29201 96 $3360 1:304
BoysFirstTime 60395 41276 275 $9625 1:150
AllAmateurMovies 2140 1026 0 $0 n/a
Total 222302 137232 579 $20265 1:237


This is avs traffic. Very targeted, you see. Traffic comes from avs linklists where i am bulksubmitting. in order to have many sites daily approved, i sell quite many avs passes from linklists that allow me to submit many sites daily eg http://www.avsseeker.com/
my sites look like: http://www.hotsexyneighbor.com/avs/n...n/fnpwarn.html


Now my question is: what exactly is your problem with sponsors and search engines? why dont they want se traffic? i always believed the legend (?) 1. se traffic is best 2. se traffic is hardest to get.

I dont know, i've emailed a few sponsors askign to form partnerships. They provide me with content, I push their reviews on my site (gets 1k a day in SE traffic alone).

RMG 11-02-2002 03:52 AM

Also, here is something I found quite odd in the NastyDollars stats interface. Take a look:

When I do a period report by "site" I get these numbers:

Total 789 534 0 $0 n/a

When I do a period report by "day" I get these numbers:

Total 789 534 0 $0 n/a

When I do a period report by "referrer" I get these numbers:

Total 789 221

The uniques are cut in half...WTF!?
How can they claim all signups are being tracked if this proves they are not?

Check your own stats guys, you'll probably see the same thing.

Voodoo 11-02-2002 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG
Whats wrong with NastyDollars?
Why should I tell you?

Pornkings 11-02-2002 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MichaelH
Well thats very interesting that the PK (aka eroticash) has the time to jump in threads and spam their own program while they don't even take to time to respond to serious spam complaints about one of their affiliates ... Very interesting...

Not sure what i'm talking about ?
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/sh...s ive+spammer

I sent you guys several times emails and received nothing from you back... + the sites in question is still active...

So much about TOS against spam... what a BS.


Michael
PS : Your sponsor programs are blacklisted on my sites. Bye.

Actually this is the first I've heard of this.
We don't have all the boards covered.



I will look into this.

RMG 11-02-2002 04:09 AM

PK, hit me on icq..i have some questions about your program
141823362

Joe Sixpack 11-02-2002 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
pornkings

'2. Commission. You will earn a Commission of Twenty Five United States dollars ($25.00) for each valid Trial. Aeroweb reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership '

ugh

Hmmm.... remind me never to promote Porn Kings.

Talk about fine print.

Pornkings 11-02-2002 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
pornkings

'2. Commission. You will earn a Commission of Twenty Five United States dollars ($25.00) for each valid Trial. Aeroweb reserves the right not to pay if more than 40% of trials do not convert to full membership '

ugh

Every webmaster so far has converted over 40%
don't you think if we didn't pay you would see posts about it?
also its just a buffer for someone who is trying to fraud us.

To this day everyone has been paid since 1996

Pornkings 11-02-2002 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack


Hmmm.... remind me never to promote Porn Kings.

Talk about fine print.


If you don't Scam programs you don't need to worry about the fine print.

And if you don't get paid feel free to post.

Our conversions from trial to active are incredable since they don't feel pressured to cancel since they get a $1 trial for a month.

MichaelH 11-02-2002 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings


Actually this is the first I've heard of this.
We don't have all the boards covered.



I will look into this.


Well, you've been receiving the Spam Complaint by EMAIL at your contact email adresses listed on your programs sites.

The forum thread link was just a little pointer about that matter.

Greetings, Michael

Terenzo 11-02-2002 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
So you wouldn't submit your sites to CyberAge?
yes, i do submit to cyberage as well as ugas. send sales, and you dont have problems with the 5 sites per day limit.

Terenzo 11-02-2002 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RMG


I dont know, i've emailed a few sponsors askign to form partnerships. They provide me with content, I push their reviews on my site (gets 1k a day in SE traffic alone).


hm... i tried to get content from many amateur sponsors for avs sites, i promised them 10 sales each day, they didn't want to, well....

RMG 11-02-2002 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Terenzo



hm... i tried to get content from many amateur sponsors for avs sites, i promised them 10 sales each day, they didn't want to, well....

Some people are just retarded...who knows *shrug*

Hooper 11-02-2002 09:54 AM

Gee, 1:1000? That isn't too hot. Maybe you should try pushing your traffic to another sponsor, and see if you get better results, You never know until you try.

:Buck:

FATPad 11-02-2002 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
Well for November so far I am 1:92 overall - actually 1:2 for their site that got the sign-up.

For October I was 1:258 overall.

I know a guy who had a listing on the Hun last week - he got 80k in hits to his gallery - he got just 25 through to ND and zero sales.

How is that even possible? LOL You'd think at least 50 people out of 80k would have some sort of hand tremors and click the link by mistake.

Undutchable 11-02-2002 10:15 AM

Hi

Im doing 1:300 with NastyDollars.. The latina site even did 1:170 for me for a long time, now im around 1:200 with that site. I've got no complaints whatsoever, although I have had a huge slowdown in October, the sales are still good. Ohyeah, all of these ratio's are on pure TGP traffic... Guess it's all about how you promote it ;)

Kimmykim 11-02-2002 11:00 AM

We send NastyDollars some exit traffic, and while it's not doing 1/200 or anything crazy like that, it does respectably for what it is. So we continue to send them the traffic.

We have sent traffic to at least two of the sponsors posting in this thread, one still gets our traffic, one does not, due to conversion ratios and total dollars earned.

As for the oversaturation comment, I don't buy it -- you know why? We convert Kara's XXX from Maxcash UNDER 1/500 with exit traffic, day in, day out (of course I hope I'm not jinxing it lol, it's been this way for years) and Kara's has to be one of THE most saturated sites ever, if not THE most.

RMG, I am not sure why your traffic isn't converting well with Nasty -- is this same traffic doing well with another sponsor? If so, figuring out why you do well with one sponsor and not another on the same traffic is sometimes impossible, you chalk it up to life and move on. But then again you may be promoting the other sponsor differently without knowing or realizing it.

If you want someone to take a look at your pages, I'd be happy to, we have several folks with review style sites that do really well, and while I would not show you their urls I would be happy to point out some things I see them doing if they are different from your own. I am not asking you to use our program, I am just offering an eye over your sites to see if I can help if you like -- my email is [email protected] and I'll be back in a few hours. :)

SNOW 11-02-2002 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornkings


the bottom line is how much you make at the end of the day who cares what the hit count is. its all about how many joins you get

I AGREE:thumbsup

SNOW 11-02-2002 11:25 AM

TERENZO you have talent.


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