Low Cost Tube Bandwidth

Arent you a reseller of Choopa?

I plan on writing Phil just after I'm done with this thread.
The setup I've been on has been tweaked for nearly a year and I'd love some input from a tech as I've had 2 people thoroughly go through it.
WG

WG, If you have the source code for Java look at the option of getting a static compiler to compile the Java code or you can allways go and get http://www.azulsystems.com/ , you should see few of them on ebay as Lehman Brothers was using them a lot

Do you know any static compilers and more importantly, do you know any with a track record of improving the CPU management/performance?
WG

http://schmidt.devlib.org/java/compilers.html

Interesting to see that TowerJ which i used in the past has gone out of biz. May be their is no market.

wow great thread

What's the overage price per mbit if someone were to take the gige port with 100mb included?

I'd also like to say.....so much for Brad Mitchell's assertion that the days of $6/mbit and lower bandwidth are over now that Alphared is gone.

$400 per 100mbit is the overage rate. It's basically 100mbit increments for this special.

Re: the Brad comment.

He's actually more right than you realize. He is talking about something that goes a bit deeper than what appears on the surface, and those in the business know precisely what he is getting at.

Will $6/meg (or less) flat-rate pricing become viable in the future? My take is probably. For this to happen, bandwidth use must increase to offset the per-unit cost decrease. My crystal ball is malfunctioning today, but I do not currently see a stop to the slow decline of bandwidth prices. I do believe there is a floor on the wholesale rates, but I'm not going to peg it at a number. As long as revenues can continue to increase overall (if I can go to Level3 and say "hey, we're paying $100,000 for 10,000mbit right now.. we'd like to increase our spend with you to $200,000 for 40,000mbit" that's in general viewed as a win) you will continue to see the slow downward trend in bandwidth pricing, just as you have over the last 10 years. At some point though, usage is going to start to flatten out, and you will then see a stop to wholesale IP price erosion as there will be no more "winning additional revenue" on the table. I think we're "close" to that floor, but hey - I've been proved wrong before!

Basically, someone coming to me asking to pay $6/mbit @ 95% and 15 servers simply does not interest me. Some hosts may take that business, but it would not be profitable for me to do so. Carefully selected specials can certainly get the per-mbit rate down for select customers, and those customers should absolutely take advantage of that fact. I've probably talked to 25 or so folks since Friday night, and I've actually only offered competitive quotes to perhaps 4 of them. The rest, we simply were not willing to compete on pricing they were seeing from other providers.

For us, the specials listed are carefully crafted promotional specials. They cultivate good word of mouth, as I'd put our support up against anyone out there. Once someone is in the door with us, we generally have them as a client for over 3.5 years (with a few exceptions, where I fully admit we have dropped the ball). Getting people in the door is hard - the sheer number of hosts posting just on GFY should give everyone an idea of that fact. We also, could not survive on *actually* selling $4/mbit like Brad is getting at. For some this is a great deal, for others we won't line up well with their goals.

Brad is a marketing genius in my book, I wish I had 1/10th of his PR and sales skills. While he may be a bit blunt in his comments, and perhaps to an outsider not completely explain what he's really getting at, he is absolutely correct. As I've said many times to many potential clients - folks like him, and a few other hosts here, I absolutely do not mind competing against since I know I'm going up against honest bids. It's the hosts Brad is getting at that are a cancer on this industry offering things they simply cannot sustain. To put blunt words on it - many hosts out there are lying to you about what they provide.

So, in my limited opinion - jump on the specials you are seeing offered soon. Brad isn't completely off his rocker

Back to football for me! Go Vikes!

One of the things we are missing is the improvments in optics and DWDM technology which allows you to push more and more BW on a single strand of fiber. The capx cost of pushing 40gb is same as what it cost 10gb 3 years ago and in 3 years we will see 160gb on the same cost. http://www.lightreading.com/ has soem very good reading on this topic.

Ok so basically 101mbps would incur a $400 overage charge?
That's still not bad really, even at that it's $8 per meg with 99 more to go without spending anymore....I just want to make sure I understood you correctly.

This is the first special like this I've seen where a gige connection is available, which means you could use the whole 100mbps. With a 100mbps capped line you can really only use about 70 before performance becomes an issue (based on personal experience)....so pricing on specials like these is, as you've said before, something of a marketing gimmick, it's not usually really $4 per mbit.

This is something I've thought about as well, although I'm not well versed in the specifics. With level3 laying down 10gbps lines, they basically decupled their network capacity for a very small capital outlay (relatively speaking), so it was inevitable that prices were going to drop significantly.

I've always considered myself someone who's always got along with numbers and math, but for some reason I cannot fully comprehend what "95th percentile" actually calculates too. I've even looked it up at Wikipedia but its just still unclear.

Can someone please explain the terminology to me? In the context of how web hosts use it.

Hey everyone,

Sorry, if I hadn't had such a busy day, I would have posted in this thread earlier. Since the ever popular 100mbps server is what all the other companies are offering up, I'll put mine in the mix, for consideration.

Quadcore Xeon e5405 (2.0ghz / 12mb cache / 1333mhz fsb)
8GB DDR2 FB-DIMM (667mhz)
2x500GB 7200rpm SATA II hdd's (Raid-1)
1000mbps NIC
100mbps Dedicated Bandwidth (capped or uncapped)
Transit providers: Nlayer, DTAG, Level3 (NO Cogent garbage)

Full Management, which includes: OS installation (custom kernel modules OK, CentOS w/PAE module is standard), software installation (again, custom apache/lighttpd modules OK), as well as server optimization and hardening

$699.00/month

Feel free to hit me up on ICQ or email at any time, and I will respond promptly. That is, unless you've caught me during one my few hours of daily sleep we keyboard commandos get these days.

I hope you all are well, and I can help you with your next server ASAP.

what do you find so great about it?