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  • WiredGuy
    Pounding Googlebot
    • Aug 2002
    • 34512

    #31
    Originally posted by k0nr4d
    You can setup roundrobin dns on your dns server and have it randomly load a server on every user request...
    I can't... I can't go into the details why, but lets just say that requests are not going thru DNS. I checked with a few sysadmins at 10tb, enabling/disabling the server is the only real option I can do.
    WG
    I play with Google.

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    • WebairGerard
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2005
      • 8113

      #32
      Originally posted by maxpower
      I am looking around for possibly a new host, I have been with my old host for over 5 years yet I am not sure they can keep down their prices in this downturn in the economy or would be best for a growing site.

      100 mbps packages might be best to start with, and I really do have to keep the price down on this. Yet I will need help in transferring my current data from my domains and well as set-up.

      Please fill free to list your pricing, and I will get back to you soon.
      Thax
      Sean
      Hi Sean please feel free to contact me to discuss and we will work up a nice deal for you.

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      • danayster
        Confirmed User
        • Dec 2007
        • 152

        #33
        Originally posted by Phil21
        WiredGuy,

        I'd love to talk to you further regarding your needs.

        I honestly do not understand the folks that absolutely limit bandwidth on a given server - it's a cost savings on my end to have you use 300Mbit on a single machine, rather than 100Mbit on 3 separate machines.

        Let me know what I have to do to win your business
        Hi Phil, whats the best price you can offer on a 300MB pipe? dual core 2 gig ram would do. Just for a video streaming, dont need any raid or super CPU power.
        60k UV a day Trade Traffic
        contact: captainnaughty(at)naughtytube .net
        icq: 498 - 792 - 933

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        • Phil21
          Confirmed User
          • May 2001
          • 993

          #34
          Originally posted by danayster
          No, im changing the server my videos point to in MYSQL and physically copying over the files. Trust me, you dont want to deal with that type of a headache. Stick with the direction your heading in lol Its where Im looking to go now. Except its a 1500$ plus commitment. Has me a bit uncertain.

          Is it me, or I dont seem to get email notifications from threads on this site? It says Im subscribed but I dont get anything.
          danayster,

          If you don't mind, I'd love to talk to you regarding a competitive solution for what you described in your earlier posts. We have some customers pushing 1800Mbit on single machines, so we're well versed in getting the most from a single box.

          I'm perfectly happy giving out some free trials if you like as well, so you can see what we offer first hand. Luckily, static content is very easy to move around - so taking advantage of the latest deal is usually not that huge of a headache if you're with a quality host.

          Decent thread either way though
          Quality affordable hosting.

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          • Phil21
            Confirmed User
            • May 2001
            • 993

            #35
            Originally posted by danayster
            Hi Phil, whats the best price you can offer on a 300MB pipe? dual core 2 gig ram would do. Just for a video streaming, dont need any raid or super CPU power.
            You'd be looking at roughly $1350/mo - depending a bit on final server configuration you desire (drive setup mostly). Within $100-150 of that price nearly no matter what though.

            -Phil
            Last edited by Phil21; 10-06-2008, 12:32 PM.
            Quality affordable hosting.

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            • zentz
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2003
              • 8062

              #36
              im paying $500 per 100mbps at alphared, unmanaged. since i just saw some better deals here i might move out to one of those soon.
              Programs that owe me money ---- Epassporte.com ~ $2700 | Protraffic.com ~ $2600 | XonDemand.com ~ $3000

              Email: [email protected]

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              • WiredGuy
                Pounding Googlebot
                • Aug 2002
                • 34512

                #37
                Originally posted by Phil21
                danayster,

                If you don't mind, I'd love to talk to you regarding a competitive solution for what you described in your earlier posts. We have some customers pushing 1800Mbit on single machines, so we're well versed in getting the most from a single box.
                Do you have any suggestions/solutions to cutting back CPU use from Java? I'm loaded up on Dual Quadcore's with 4 gig RAM. RAM use is about 2.5 - 3.0 gig, but CPU is always 100% and its limiting my ability to increase bandwidth usage. Single core CPU, I can push 15-20 megabit, Dual core, I can push maybe 50 megabit, Dual Quadcore I can hit 70 megabit per server. I'd like to get that up towards 100 megabit as the hardware cost is killing my ROI when I need to spread it over multiple boxes. I've been using Windows as believe it or not, Windows has a better CPU management for java than linux so I'm also getting killed in license fees to microsoft.

                Any suggestions would be appreciated.

                Sincerely,
                WG
                I play with Google.

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                • Phil21
                  Confirmed User
                  • May 2001
                  • 993

                  #38
                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                  Do you have any suggestions/solutions to cutting back CPU use from Java? I'm loaded up on Dual Quadcore's with 4 gig RAM. RAM use is about 2.5 - 3.0 gig, but CPU is always 100% and its limiting my ability to increase bandwidth usage. Single core CPU, I can push 15-20 megabit, Dual core, I can push maybe 50 megabit, Dual Quadcore I can hit 70 megabit per server. I'd like to get that up towards 100 megabit as the hardware cost is killing my ROI when I need to spread it over multiple boxes. I've been using Windows as believe it or not, Windows has a better CPU management for java than linux so I'm also getting killed in license fees to microsoft.

                  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

                  Sincerely,
                  WG

                  This is probably better suited towards private communication as I'm sure there are some details of your setup you won't want public. I can be reached via [email protected], or if you prefer AIM/ICQ philtwoone/25285313.

                  I am mostly curious as to why you're utilizing Java for static content. Are you doing live streaming? Or something else?

                  Java, in my opinion, is freaking horrible. I cringe whenever we have to support something running it :/

                  Thanks!

                  -Phil
                  Quality affordable hosting.

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                  • danayster
                    Confirmed User
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 152

                    #39
                    Originally posted by WiredGuy
                    Do you have any suggestions/solutions to cutting back CPU use from Java? I'm loaded up on Dual Quadcore's with 4 gig RAM. RAM use is about 2.5 - 3.0 gig, but CPU is always 100% and its limiting my ability to increase bandwidth usage. Single core CPU, I can push 15-20 megabit, Dual core, I can push maybe 50 megabit, Dual Quadcore I can hit 70 megabit per server. I'd like to get that up towards 100 megabit as the hardware cost is killing my ROI when I need to spread it over multiple boxes. I've been using Windows as believe it or not, Windows has a better CPU management for java than linux so I'm also getting killed in license fees to microsoft.

                    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

                    Sincerely,
                    WG
                    Well, Im currently using the stock Linux for my web server but I switched to lighttpd for the video streaming servers. I personally wouldn't trust windows for anything web server based. The OS alone most likely adds over head.

                    Which tube script are you using? Im using Agriya Rayzz but My site was killing me with server load until I had an expert MYSQL coder debug all the slow queries in that script. Server couldn't even handle 15k uniques back then, after the fixes Im at 80k and server still has its chest popping out like a football player thats ready to take on a massive truck. As we speak server load is at 18 and pages still load quick, and server has no lag lol I love it.

                    Do you get emails when this thread is responded to? I dont get nada
                    60k UV a day Trade Traffic
                    contact: captainnaughty(at)naughtytube .net
                    icq: 498 - 792 - 933

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                    • danayster
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 152

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Phil21
                      This is probably better suited towards private communication as I'm sure there are some details of your setup you won't want public. I can be reached via [email protected], or if you prefer AIM/ICQ philtwoone/25285313.

                      I am mostly curious as to why you're utilizing Java for static content. Are you doing live streaming? Or something else?

                      Java, in my opinion, is freaking horrible. I cringe whenever we have to support something running it :/

                      Thanks!

                      -Phil
                      Yea, Im also curious why java is involved. Animated Rotating Thumbs maybe?

                      Not a bad price at all Phil, let me look at my numbers tonight and I may be contacted you regarding this.
                      60k UV a day Trade Traffic
                      contact: captainnaughty(at)naughtytube .net
                      icq: 498 - 792 - 933

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                      • Techie Media
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2001
                        • 3092

                        #41
                        Originally posted by WiredGuy
                        Do you have any suggestions/solutions to cutting back CPU use from Java? I'm loaded up on Dual Quadcore's with 4 gig RAM. RAM use is about 2.5 - 3.0 gig, but CPU is always 100% and its limiting my ability to increase bandwidth usage. Single core CPU, I can push 15-20 megabit, Dual core, I can push maybe 50 megabit, Dual Quadcore I can hit 70 megabit per server. I'd like to get that up towards 100 megabit as the hardware cost is killing my ROI when I need to spread it over multiple boxes. I've been using Windows as believe it or not, Windows has a better CPU management for java than linux so I'm also getting killed in license fees to microsoft.

                        Any suggestions would be appreciated.

                        Sincerely,
                        WG

                        Charles as I am not in the biz of selling cheap 4.00 bandwidth I am however in the biz of knowing how to setup, run, program and administer High Quality Hosting and have earned the reputation of such. OK from the small amount of information you have posted here I can say (with confidence) your setup is all wrong. Take a good look at what my buddy Phill21 wrote and Listen to him. Phill is one of the best admins around and knows what he is doing. From what he wrote here he is on the right path. I suggest contacting him and keep an open mind to what he says...

                        Good Luck


                        sales [AT] techiemedia.com

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                        • Jens Van Assterdam
                          The Dupre Pimp
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 6677

                          #42
                          Originally posted by k0nr4d
                          Jens, they are right. Tubes dont take up THAT much space. 250gb is plenty and the biggest problem is in fact disk i/o. Best solution is like 4 drives in a mirrored striped array.
                          We add movies since a couple of days and just added another 750gb as well as an extra server for the load balance.
                          250gb wont last longer then a week on my end.
                          Hit me on icq and ill shoot you some details
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                          • maxpower
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2006
                            • 734

                            #43
                            I just wanted to say thank you, to all that contributed to this tread. I have found it very informative, and I am a bit humbled hearing about the T packages too

                            I will of course be in contact with many of you soon, and do look forward to taking with you more.

                            Thax
                            SEan
                            Last edited by maxpower; 10-06-2008, 01:07 PM.

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                            • NETBilling-Andy
                              Confirmed User
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 182

                              #44
                              Hey guys - if you can shoot me an email at [email protected] - i would be happy to get each of you an individual quote.

                              Charles - also, we would certainly be happy to do a call with our Sales Engineers and go over our recommendation for what you're trying to do. Bandwidth is cheap - it's a matter of making sure you have the right setup from the beginning. Also - we can talk about how CDN might fit into the equation as well - to offload alot of work from the server to the CDN.
                              Andrew Kiefer Sales Account Executive / Merchant Relations
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                              • Rodent
                                Confirmed User
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 1462

                                #45
                                We have a few specials running this month if anyone is interested in discussing them.

                                A sample would be,

                                Quad Core Intel Xeon
                                4GB Ram
                                500Gb Sata
                                100Mbit Bw
                                $599/Month

                                If you need assistance with your setup to spread/decrease your loads our techs can assist and show you pointers to do this. Once you are big enough you will of course want to invest in a more robust drive setup.

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