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StuartD · 10-05-2008, 04:32 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...ama/index.html

With Obama rising in polls while the country struggles in the grip of a financial crisis, Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign decided to shift attention away from the troubled economy and onto issues of his opponent's character, judgment and personal associations, the Washington Post reported.

"We're going to get a little tougher," a senior Republican operative said, requesting anonymity because he wasn't authorized to discuss strategy. "We've got to question this guy's associations. Very soon. There's no question that we have to change the subject here."

So essentially what they're saying is that Obama is winning the argument on the economy so instead, we're going to call him names and insult him..

It's funny because that's the same tactic that many on GFY use to debate.

After Shock Media · 10-05-2008, 04:36 AM

I think they mean they are going to attempt to tarnish him by going after anyone he may know or have associated with. Which with their percentage of lies versus truths or even partial truths will sound very ugly.

Seriously doubt that Obama will fall for it and change his current course. I really think he knows how others have fallen for that tactic before.

StuartD · 10-05-2008, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I think they mean they are going to attempt to tarnish him by going after anyone he may know or have associated with.

Obviously. That's what I mean. They can't win arguing issues, so they're going to try their best to just make people hate him. Attach his character (by attaching the character of those associated with him).

It's better to sling mud if you can't win an argument in politics.

After Shock Media · 10-05-2008, 04:44 AM

I really think the majority are getting past falling for name calling and mud slinging, or I at least hope so. I know there are plenty of hardliners that follow the party lines who's votes never would of been changed, however I feel many are just fed up with current conditions and well will not tolerate deviation from the issues.

StuartD · 10-05-2008, 04:51 AM

wow, I can't believe I put "attaching" instead of "attacking" both times... ugh. Waking up at 5am does weird things to my mind.

After Shock Media · 10-05-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

wow, I can't believe I put "attaching" instead of "attacking" both times... ugh. Waking up at 5am does weird things to my mind.

HAHA, I read it the way you meant both times.

notoldschool · 10-05-2008, 06:34 AM

Palin/mccain are scum bags. I hope Obama starts running Keating 5 commercials. That will be the best thing since sliced kimbo. Mccain has so many skeletons in his closet it will be funny if the gloves really do come off.

Big John · 10-05-2008, 07:10 AM

Palin's already accused him of consorting with terrorists...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7653132.stm

If you read the reason for saying so then to me it only shows the McCain camp up for the scumbags they are. There really is no justification at all for the claim, or rather it's soooo very flimsy that no rational, sane person could draw that conclusion.

notoldschool · 10-05-2008, 08:40 AM

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or rather it's soooo very flimsy that no rational, sane person could draw that conclusion.

The sad part is the majority of the GOP base are not sane so this will work in that respect.

StuartD · 10-05-2008, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Big John

Palin's already accused him of consorting with terrorists...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7653132.stm

If you read the reason for saying so then to me it only shows the McCain camp up for the scumbags they are. There really is no justification at all for the claim, or rather it's soooo very flimsy that no rational, sane person could draw that conclusion.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about... they've announced outright that they can't win on issues so they're going to start making these big time attacks on him and who he hangs around with instead... even though they're very heavily misconstrued, slanted and out right lied about.

Seriously, THIS is what wins elections?!?!?

MovieMaster · 10-05-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Obviously. That's what I mean. They can't win arguing issues, so they're going to try their best to just make people hate him. Attach his character (by attaching the character of those associated with him).

It's better to sling mud if you can't win an argument in politics.

That's not the problem is people are failing to understand issues so they perceive him to be correct. Perception is the only thing in politics that matter.

BlackCrayon · 10-05-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about... they've announced outright that they can't win on issues so they're going to start making these big time attacks on him and who he hangs around with instead... even though they're very heavily misconstrued, slanted and out right lied about.

Seriously, THIS is what wins elections?!?!?

I also find it sad that instead of trying to bring hope to the people of Michigan who are losing tons of jobs, Mccain has written them off because he doesn't feel he could win the state. Way to care for the American people.

Big John · 10-05-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Seriously, THIS is what wins elections?!?!?

Wins? I'd say no but certainly influences a lot more than it should. As oldschool said, far too few are sane or at least are intelligent enough to tell the difference between BS with less than a grain of truth and reality.

Mind you - the fact that the Republican party still has so much support after the crap from the past 8 years culminating in the current fiancial fiasco says it all really.

Drake · 10-05-2008, 04:24 PM

So Obama was 8 years old when this Bill Ayers guy was a radical and he has denounced Ayers' past.

Her remarks that "Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect" and "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America" are ironic considering that her husband was a member of an Alaskan seccessionist group.

Mr. Cool Ice · 10-05-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about... they've announced outright that they can't win on issues so they're going to start making these big time attacks on him and who he hangs around with instead... even though they're very heavily misconstrued, slanted and out right lied about.

Seriously, THIS is what wins elections?!?!?

Well the American people have spoken and for them, this is EXACTLY the type of shit than wins elections.

That is if you believe your vote matters, which it doesn't.

J. Falcon · 10-05-2008, 07:01 PM

It's pretty much all they have left.

10-05-2008, 04:32 AM	#1
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After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I think they mean they are going to attempt to tarnish him by going after anyone he may know or have associated with. Which with their percentage of lies versus truths or even partial truths will sound very ugly. Seriously doubt that Obama will fall for it and change his current course. I really think he knows how others have fallen for that tactic before. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

10-05-2008, 04:44 AM	#4
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	I really think the majority are getting past falling for name calling and mud slinging, or I at least hope so. I know there are plenty of hardliners that follow the party lines who's votes never would of been changed, however I feel many are just fed up with current conditions and well will not tolerate deviation from the issues. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

10-05-2008, 04:51 AM	#5
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	wow, I can't believe I put "attaching" instead of "attacking" both times... ugh. Waking up at 5am does weird things to my mind. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

10-05-2008, 06:34 AM	#7
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	Palin/mccain are scum bags. I hope Obama starts running Keating 5 commercials. That will be the best thing since sliced kimbo. Mccain has so many skeletons in his closet it will be funny if the gloves really do come off. __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

10-05-2008, 07:10 AM	#8
Big John Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Never never land Posts: 470	Palin's already accused him of consorting with terrorists... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7653132.stm If you read the reason for saying so then to me it only shows the McCain camp up for the scumbags they are. There really is no justification at all for the claim, or rather it's soooo very flimsy that no rational, sane person could draw that conclusion. __________________

10-05-2008, 04:24 PM	#14
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	So Obama was 8 years old when this Bill Ayers guy was a radical and he has denounced Ayers' past. Her remarks that "Our opponent though, is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect" and "This is not a man who sees America as you see America and as I see America" are ironic considering that her husband was a member of an Alaskan seccessionist group.

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