Fact Check: Did Obama vote 94 times for higher taxes? - GoFuckYourself.com

StuartD · 10-03-2008, 07:08 AM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...heck-94-times/

The Statement: At a debate Thursday, Oct. 2 in St. Louis, Missouri, Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin charged Democrat Sen. Barack Obama of supporting higher taxes. "Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes, and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction ? 94 times."

Get the facts!

The Facts: The effort to convince voters that Sen. Barack Obama would support higher taxes is a central part of Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign. McCain and the Republican National Committee have repeatedly cited 94 alleged votes by Obama to bolster their argument. Factcheck.org, a non-partisan project of the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center, pieced through records to determine just what these 94 instances were. Key findings:

?23 were against proposed tax cuts.

? 7 were "for measures that would have lowered taxes for many, while raising them on a relative few, either corporations or affluent individuals."

? 11 were to increase taxes on people making more than $1 million a year, to help fund programs such as Head Start, school nutrition, or veterans' health care.

? 53 were votes on budget resolutions or amendments that "could not have resulted by themselves in raising taxes," though many "were clear statements of approval for increased taxes"

The total also includes multiple votes on the same measures. Annenberg says a close look at the record reveals that Obama has "voted consistently to restore higher tax rates on upper income taxpayers but not on middle- or low-income workers."

The Verdict: Misleading. Palin's summary ignores the fact that some of the votes were for measures to lower taxes for many Americans, while increasing them for a much smaller number of taxpayers. The total also includes multiple votes on the same measures and budget votes that would not directly lead to higher taxes.

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:10 AM

who gives a fuck.
he's on the record promising to raise taxes when he becomes president

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:12 AM

and a CNN blog is not a place to go to check "facts"

StuartD · 10-03-2008, 07:14 AM

wow, 2 replies and I can't even see who made them. Since this is a political thread, I can only imagine who it could have been

nation-x · 10-03-2008, 07:14 AM

12clicks would rather stay in Iraq and have the govt spend $10B/month there then to have his taxes go up a few grand.

StuartD · 10-03-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

12clicks would rather stay in Iraq and have the govt spend $10B/month there then to have his taxes go up a few grand.

I knew it.

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

12clicks would rather stay in Iraq and have the govt spend $10B/month there then to have his taxes go up a few grand.

oh, look who bought into the lie that obama will somehow get us out of iraq quicker than mccain.

Brujah · 10-03-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

12clicks would rather stay in Iraq and have the govt spend $10B/month there then to have his taxes go up a few grand.

He wants to bankrupt the country. He's a polish spy.

nation-x · 10-03-2008, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

oh, look who bought into the lie that obama will somehow get us out of iraq quicker than mccain.

Why do you characterize it as a lie? McCain hasn't even produced a plan to withdraw troops...

Fletch XXX · 10-03-2008, 07:18 AM

anyone who would vote for Sarah Palin, I highly doubt is worried about "facts."

cherrylula · 10-03-2008, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

who gives a fuck.
he's on the record promising to raise taxes when he becomes president

"fairness"

StuartD · 10-03-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD

The Verdict: Misleading.

Could you imagine? After all of these years of truthful straight and narrow talk from W Bush, how he never once tried to ever hide anything or lie or do anything to ever make anyone question his honesty for even one second.....
and Palin is going to tarnish all of that by being misleading??

Say it ain't so!

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x

Why do you characterize it as a lie? McCain hasn't even produced a plan to withdraw troops...

neither has obama.
thus making the idea that obama will do it faster, a lie.

Brujah · 10-03-2008, 07:24 AM

Palin repeated a false claim that Obama once voted in favor of higher taxes on “families” making as little as $42,000 a year. He did not.

Fact Checking the Biden Palin debate
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...in_debate.html

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula

"fairness"

I imagine this is the rabble's take on it

notoldschool · 10-03-2008, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

who gives a fuck.
he's on the record promising to raise taxes when he becomes president

Dont worry you have to make more than 250,000. a year for him to raise your taxes and EVERYONE on this board knows thats not you so just give up.

seeandsee · 10-03-2008, 07:30 AM

Obama rulez

directfiesta · 10-03-2008, 07:35 AM

Republicans feed on lies ....

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

Palin repeated a false claim that Obama once voted in favor of higher taxes on ?families? making as little as $42,000 a year. He did not.

Fact Checking the Biden Palin debate
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...in_debate.html

obama says over and over that the Bush tax cuts were for the rich. also false.

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Dont worry you have to make more than 250,000. a year for him to raise your taxes and EVERYONE on this board knows thats not you so just give up.

actually the number is $200k.

but ouch, that really hurt coming from someone with your stature in this business.

pornguy · 10-03-2008, 07:44 AM

People... Get This Trhough Your Fucking Thick Skulls. Obama Is A Politician, Mc Cain Is A Politician And Both Will Say Anything To Get Elected, And Then Do Exactly What They Want When They Are In.

See Bush For Ref.

Brujah · 10-03-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks

obama says over and over that the Bush tax cuts were for the rich. also false.

He's talking about capital gains tax?

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

He's talking about capital gains tax?

nope.......

tony286 · 10-03-2008, 10:28 AM

What clicks doesnt realize is his taxes are going up no matter who is president. Someone has to pay for the war.

directfiesta · 10-03-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404

What clicks doesnt realize is his taxes are going up no matter who is president. Someone has to pay for the war.

What ?????

It is to pay for itself ... like the rescue plan !

12clicks · 10-03-2008, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

What clicks doesnt realize is his taxes are going up no matter who is president. Someone has to pay for the war.

I don't have a problem if EVERYONE'S taxes go up.
Then maybe the people getting a free ride will do a better job voting out spenders

10-03-2008, 07:08 AM	#1
StuartD Sofa King Band Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Outside the box Posts: 29,903	Fact Check: Did Obama vote 94 times for higher taxes? http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...heck-94-times/ The Statement: At a debate Thursday, Oct. 2 in St. Louis, Missouri, Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin charged Democrat Sen. Barack Obama of supporting higher taxes. "Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes, and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction ? 94 times." Get the facts! The Facts: The effort to convince voters that Sen. Barack Obama would support higher taxes is a central part of Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign. McCain and the Republican National Committee have repeatedly cited 94 alleged votes by Obama to bolster their argument. Factcheck.org, a non-partisan project of the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Public Policy Center, pieced through records to determine just what these 94 instances were. Key findings: ?23 were against proposed tax cuts. ? 7 were "for measures that would have lowered taxes for many, while raising them on a relative few, either corporations or affluent individuals." ? 11 were to increase taxes on people making more than $1 million a year, to help fund programs such as Head Start, school nutrition, or veterans' health care. ? 53 were votes on budget resolutions or amendments that "could not have resulted by themselves in raising taxes," though many "were clear statements of approval for increased taxes" The total also includes multiple votes on the same measures. Annenberg says a close look at the record reveals that Obama has "voted consistently to restore higher tax rates on upper income taxpayers but not on middle- or low-income workers." The Verdict: Misleading. Palin's summary ignores the fact that some of the votes were for measures to lower taxes for many Americans, while increasing them for a much smaller number of taxpayers. The total also includes multiple votes on the same measures and budget votes that would not directly lead to higher taxes. __________________ This is me on facebook This is me on twitter

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