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10-01-2008, 02:32 PM
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Tube sites have better ratios than that so I cant see blaming them.
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10-01-2008, 02:34 PM
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I make pixels work
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time to drop melissa and bonanza - damn!
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10-01-2008, 02:36 PM
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I still saw 1:1,490 in Sept with ccbill programs. Down a little. I think part of it DOES have to do with cookies being blocked more often as well as, oh, things like Opera labelling refer.ccbill.com as a scam site. It would be nice to see ?aff=blahblah tracking added in addition to the cookies to ccbill (while allowing the old codes to work still!!!) as well as resolution to the opera fraud warning. Every little bit helps.
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10-01-2008, 02:37 PM
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Traffic stats alone don't say much. One would really need to analyze the source sites, where those sites get their traffic from and the time frame involved. By seeing only that screen cap, I can think of only two assumptions, and neither are pretty. Saying "your traffic is shit," is rude and unfair, but so is implying that CCBill is screwing you. Obviously, all of those sponsors aren't scamming you.
What is your supposition? For what it's worth, I agree with Trixie as I am one those affiliate webmasters who prefers CCBill programs over NATS programs. I've always had better ratios with simple, smaller CCBill programs, though I do wish I could find one that had a good multi-site access site to promote. |
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10-01-2008, 02:38 PM
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No Refunds Issued.
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I cant believe it's doing 1:32,000 Something is seriously fucked. |
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10-01-2008, 02:46 PM
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Thats why i dont touch CCBill programs. Makes my life easier
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10-01-2008, 02:49 PM
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Well, let's hope more free porn sites go up soon.
How about you? Are you going to combat this issue with a free tube site of your own? That's the only logical plan I can think of myself. As long as all of our sales are going down the only sensible solution is clearly to GIVE AWAY MORE FREE PORN! "But MY tube site is legit"... whatever the fuck that means! If you are giving away free porn, then you are part of the problem - just face it. Tube sites are a race to the bottom.... period! Evolve and die! |
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10-01-2008, 02:53 PM
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Tube sites are the new TGPs
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10-01-2008, 02:54 PM
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they are still a big part of the blame 
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10-01-2008, 02:55 PM
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I make pixels work
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do you do well with non nude?
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10-01-2008, 03:06 PM
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No Refunds Issued.
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10-01-2008, 03:16 PM
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1) TUBE SITES (ie the proliferation of TONS of FREE PORN!) 2) The overall economy. |
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10-01-2008, 04:15 PM
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10-01-2008, 04:17 PM
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10-01-2008, 04:32 PM
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Which tube sites are the most popular nowadays? The ones that offer 30 second and 1 minute clips, or the ones that offer clips that are 2 minutes through full length videos? If you enter the tube game you are doing so in order to attract traffic to your FREE PORN site. How do you make your tube site popular? You give away as many clips as you possibly can, and the longer the better. This is a race to the bottom. When the industry is in an evergrowing competition to give away more than the next guy, then it will inevetibly self-destruct. Pretend you are a surfer, and go to Google and conduct a search for "free porn". Now tell me why sales are in the toilet.... |
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10-01-2008, 04:36 PM
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10-01-2008, 04:41 PM
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10-01-2008, 04:43 PM
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10-01-2008, 04:50 PM
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I see the same stuff. The only two CCBill solo girl programs that convert for me are Phil-Flash and Spunky Cash. I agree about Bonanza Bucks, bunch of amateurs.
- AshCash is actually the old program. Raging Bucks is her new program with a couple other girls. I heard that converts much better. |
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10-01-2008, 04:51 PM
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When a surfer sees a gallery, clicks on it, looks at the pics or vids, clicks for the tour, goes through the tour....and then you still end up 0:5000 It's NOT the traffic. Obviously the surfers are interested. I would suggest looking at each of those sites and then googling them up and seeing just how much of their stuff is all over the tubes and torrents. I am actively working to keep my paysite stuff OFF of them through encrypted streaming and paying removeyourcontent.com to get all my old stuff off. That is the only solution I found for Claudia-Marie.com As for my tgp's and the hundreds of affiliate programs I promote....it's like a fucking war zone. |
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10-01-2008, 05:03 PM
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How far back are those stats if you dont mind me askin Davey?
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10-01-2008, 05:25 PM
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the main product that this industry is selling and has been able to sell in the near past is video, and that is what is being given away by tubes (in much more than quick teaser fashion)... the tubes don't care, because they are not in the business of selling video or membership in video porn sites, they are trying to use the stolen porn to build traffic to sell other products (in a shortsighted cash in quick before dating and cams are oversaturated) and/or build traffic and sell out this industry relies on a greatest percentage of the product being video, not pictures or anything else (those are out there but to support the industry in the numbers that are now involved in trying to survive, there needs to be profit in producing and selling video, cams or dating will never amount to what is needed for a healthy industry)..... tube sites, by giving away the entire product that this industry relies on, are killing the industry and killing it in a hurry
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10-01-2008, 05:37 PM
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 my ccbill stats are just fine these days... that dates back a couple of months though. |
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10-01-2008, 05:53 PM
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Unless your ccbill account has some kinda neat voodoo hex on it? Try making a new ccbill account and testing things. Otherwise i dont know, seems like shitty traffic.
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10-01-2008, 06:12 PM
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I know all program owners are top notch, but maybe in this uncertainty and economic situation, maybe some program owners are reducing the amount of days the cookie is valid. I'm seeing exactly the same thing off CCBILL, ratios are getting alot worse. If anyones interested, i'll post some stats later tonight for 2008 YTD in CCBILL, and my traffic sources are varied off tgp, mgp, tube, forum, submitting, cms, etc etc... I do it all. 
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10-01-2008, 06:22 PM
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10-01-2008, 06:41 PM
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Hey dude dont want to spam the thread at all.
But maybe u can redirect some of that traffic to us and u would get for it for sure a better result. We have a new affiliate program for a webcam site and some of our affiliates performing fantastic have even a 1:27 ratio Too good to believe ? well u have nothing to loose by trying it. . . http://www.cashoncams.com
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10-01-2008, 06:47 PM
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It takes time to build a site, it takes time to work traffic, it takes time to filter traffic, it takes time to set up trades, it takes time to maintain content, it takes time to SEO a site. I mean it's not like I can just decide that just because you think I have nothing to lose, I can turn on some magical switch and just start sending traffic to your program. Unless you want shit broker traffic, which doesn't convert worth the price you paid for it. Anyways, good luck. I'm sure cams are very profitable for people who are into cam girls!
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10-01-2008, 06:49 PM
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You should try the affiliate program True Amateur Cash from the amateur paysite True Amateur Models
My current affiliates are doing phenominal with turning over sales. Of course, it depends on the affiliate but some of them are turning over 20-30 sales per day...and that's per affiliate. 100% real and exclusive amateur content shot and produced by myself. CCBill based program, 50% on new and recurring sales and a 10% webmaster referral. Don't just take my word for it though, go ahead and give it a try and you will see for yourself how well the FHG's convert. |
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10-01-2008, 10:52 PM
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time to try something new, rebills on philflash look nice though
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Wow, what a way to work yourself up for disappointment. Instead of changing your business model to fit whats new right now, you're running around blaming tube sites and trying to stop em. GOOD LUCK BUDDY! The economy is changing, surfers have changed and are still changing, user interfaces are changing, people are embracing new means of getting their entertainment... Yet you... you think you can keep doing the same ol tired shit everyone else is doing and the money gonna stay the same or get better. Forget about it, its not gonna happen. Its not about what product we're selling and how much of it is out there cus theres always been free porn and surfers are way savvier and know how to get it. Its about user experience and HOW you sell your product. The days of you telling the surfer what they need/want is over. If you cant deliver the goods, someone else will... you can bet on that. Its a consumer driven market and if you dont understand and see that, I highly suggest re-evaluating your business model after some thought. But then again some learn the hard way. Either way, I wish you lots of sales and steady rebills 
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10-02-2008, 11:36 AM
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uh hit me up on icq i got an offer for you I want to try something.... you will make money
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10-02-2008, 11:39 AM
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I'm pretty sure the default cookie life is set to 3 days on ccbill.
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