TorrentSpy ~ Anyone else see this?

[HomeFry]

http://www.torrentspy.com/

Something is working.

[Manowar]

damn, huge money in adverts for them just gone

[stickyfingerz]

Welcome to March 2008.

[tony286]

I love it how they try to spin it like they are freedom fighters. lol

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by tony404

I love it how they try to spin it like they are freedom fighters. lol

Those fuckers, just like the Pirate Bay assholes, will find any way possible to rationalize theft. Anyone with half a brain knows that 99% of torrent activity is theft of copyrighted materials -- and that's being nice.

[seeric]

Friends of TorrentSpy,

We have decided on our own, not due to any court order or agreement, to bring the Torrentspy.com search engine to an end and thus we permanently closed down worldwide on March 24, 2008.

The legal climate in the USA for copyright, privacy of search requests, and links to torrent files in search results is simply too hostile. We spent the last two years, and hundreds of thousands of dollars, defending the rights of our users and ourselves.

Ultimately the Court demanded actions that in our view were inconsistent with our privacy policy, traditional court rules, and International law; therefore, we now feel compelled to provide the ultimate method of privacy protection for our users - permanent shutdown.

It was a wild ride,

The TorrentSpy Team

[bronco67]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

Friends of TorrentSpy,

We have decided on our own, not due to any court order or agreement, to bring the Torrentspy.com search engine to an end and thus we permanently closed down worldwide on March 24, 2008.

The legal climate in the USA for copyright, privacy of search requests, and links to torrent files in search results is simply too hostile. We spent the last two years, and hundreds of thousands of dollars, defending the rights of our users and ourselves.

Ultimately the Court demanded actions that in our view were inconsistent with our privacy policy, traditional court rules, and International law; therefore, we now feel compelled to provide the ultimate method of privacy protection for our users - permanent shutdown.

It was a wild ride,

The TorrentSpy Team

We're off into the world, possibly to further our pursuits of encouraging and facilitating future theft of materials we do not have the talent to actually create ourselves.

We'll be seeing you.

[seeandsee]

march today

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by bronco67

Those fuckers, just like the Pirate Bay assholes, will find any way possible to rationalize theft. Anyone with half a brain knows that 99% of torrent activity is theft of copyrighted materials -- and that's being nice.

more than 50% of torrent traffic is tv shows which means a majority of people are using torrent for timeshifting not "theft of copyright material".


if your going to pull numbers out of your ass, you might want to make them seem at least plausible.

[TidalWave]

and do those tv show torrents include the commercials? didnt think so

[Karupted Charles]

Originally Posted by TidalWave

and do those tv show torrents include the commercials? didnt think so

Not only that how many are premium showtime hbo and so on that require a pay service.

[tiger]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Welcome to March 2008.

[beta-tester]

this is old....

[yys]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

more than 50% of torrent traffic is tv shows which means a majority of people are using torrent for timeshifting not "theft of copyright material".


if your going to pull numbers out of your ass, you might want to make them seem at least plausible.

That excuse would go over well in court.

"I'm not really stealing, just timeshifting"

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by yys

That excuse would go over well in court.

"I'm not really stealing, just timeshifting"

worked for sony in the betamax case
worked for cable vision in the RPVR case
and i got a feeling it will work in isohunt suit against the CRIA

[yys]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

worked for sony in the betamax case
worked for cable vision in the RPVR case
and i got a feeling it will work in isohunt suit against the CRIA

So Sony's argument was that people should be able to record material covered by copyright and then share it with thousands of people?

I'm going to take a wild guess that they weren't arguing that their customers should be able to record whatever they wanted and then open up what amounts to a video store. Same goes for cable vision.

[denmark_guy]

hmm is rapidshare next?

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by yys

So Sony's argument was that people should be able to record material covered by copyright and then share it with thousands of people?

I'm going to take a wild guess that they weren't arguing that their customers should be able to record whatever they wanted and then open up what amounts to a video store. Same goes for cable vision.

seeders break the file into thousands of pieces
if you played the content i gave you, all you would have was a non working file.
So i am in fact sharing less when i loaned my friend my tape when he missed his favorite show (because the power went out, forgot to set it etc)

even if you were counting the ratio, most people only share to 1:1 maybe max 3:1 which is no where close to the 1000 you keep talking about.


torrent download are no where close to opening a video store, because

1. you are never giving anyone a complete working copy
2. you are not collecting any revenue from seeding


if anything it closer to buying a dvd and donating it to the library so they can lend it out for free.

[wootpr0n]

Originally Posted by gideongallery

worked for sony in the betamax case
worked for cable vision in the RPVR case
and i got a feeling it will work in isohunt suit against the CRIA

Actually CRIA threatned isoHunt and isoHunt's response was to sue them in order to get the Court to declare their site legal.

isoHunt has a good chance of winning.

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Thats sooooooo old!

[bobby666]

never visited that site

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

Not only that how many are premium showtime hbo and so on that require a pay service.

1 Heroes (2.439.154)
2 Top Gear (1.217.923)
3 Battlestar Galactica (706.209)
4 Lost (705.724)
5 Prison Break (608.487)
6 Desperate Housewives (457.805)
7 24 (524.303)
8 Family Guy (522.839)
9 Dexter (435.670)
10 Scrubs (427.420)

dexter is the only one that breaks the top 10.

i would also suspect that a higher than normal percentage of those dexter viewers are in fact timeshifting because to torrent you would need to have a faster internet connection and that represents a higher income bracket, with more income to spend on stuff like tv.

i subcribe to showcase canada, bbc canada but i still download my episodes of dr who because it is easier than programming a dvr, and less likely to have problems

hell i stopped renting the pvr from my cable company and went back to the normal box, because i used it so infrequently.

[uno]

Originally Posted by Karupted Charles

Not only that how many are premium showtime hbo and so on that require a pay service.

I DL shows all the time from stations I pay for that I couldn't DVR because I was recording 2 things already at the same time.

[gideongallery]

Originally Posted by TidalWave

and do those tv show torrents include the commercials? didnt think so

from the 20+ year old betamax ruling

The Betamax is also equipped with a pause button and a fast-forward control. The pause button, when depressed, deactivates the recorder until it is released, thus enabling a viewer to omit a commercial advertisement from the recording, provided, of course, that the viewer is present when the program is recorded. The fast-forward control enables the viewer of a previously recorded program to run the tape rapidly when a segment he or she does not desire to see is being played back on the television screen.

arguing that i must have the commercials in torrents when the original betamax ruling EXPLICTLY recognized my rights skip commercials in the taping (hence no injunction against pause buttons or fast forward).

Downloading a comercial free version of a show is the legal equivalent to borrowing a tape from a friend who paused during the recording.

[gideongallery]

add to that even if the downloaded copies fo the shows had the commercials in them they are not counted in the neilson ratings and therefore the station and the show producers get no money from them (just like with a replaying of a video cassette).

[VeriSexy]

Did this post just dial up? lol..