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J. Falcon

09-30-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14837521)

then there is also a guy who actually has experience who has a solid resume.

anyone with any sense would go with the guy who has experience over the guy who just talks a good game. people can see past the bullshit

Even when the guy with experience experience and a "solid resume" voted with Bush 95% of the times and is directly associated with the current administration? Even when his VP looks like she wouldn't be able to run a corner bodega much less a country?

robfantasy

09-30-2008 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 14837534)

You know who else made stupid assumptions? George W. Bush. That whole mess with the WMDs there in Irak, I'm sure you remember that. You see where stupid ASSumptions get you? They make you look like an ASS

once again man, i know its hard for you to understand, but the govt does things in the interest of the country, that might not be so popular with the american people, so they "spin" it in a way that the "people" can understand and comprehend.

have you ever called customer service about a problem with something? what do they tell you, they tell you a blanket statement handed down to them from top management, because they cannot explain the inner workings of the problem because the customer could not only not comprehend but couldnt understand it and rather than try to assume a higher level of intelligence, they dumb it down or put it in "laymans" terms so the masses will have an idea of whats going on.

Digipimp

09-30-2008 07:06 PM

old white dudes gots to stick together bro, we is all we got

robfantasy

09-30-2008 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 14837546)

j falcon.. WHAT DO YOU WANT

what kind of america do you want?

dont say OBAMA'S america.. or something new, or anything like that...

just tell me what you want.

J. Falcon

09-30-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14837579)

Speaking of dumbing it down...

J. Falcon

09-30-2008 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14837581)

j falcon.. WHAT DO YOU WANT

what kind of america do you want?

dont say OBAMA'S america.. or something new, or anything like that...

just tell me what you want.

I want people like you to get their head out their ass. :)

StuartD

09-30-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14837579)

once again man, i know its hard for you to understand, but the govt does things in the interest of the country

I have yet to see an example of that from the current administration :2 cents:

pocketkangaroo

09-30-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14837177)

ya nader is my second choice mccain is 3rd

obama is not even a consideration

So your first choice is the most conservative man running. Your second choice is the most liberal guy running. And your 3rd choice is a fucking mish-mash of social conservatism and crazy economics.

It is clear you don't vote based on issues or your own self interest, but on personality. You are the "I voted for Bush because he wore Wranglers like me" crowd.

And it's not a knock on any of the candidates. Just don't see how you can go from a Libertarian to a Socialist to a Moderate so quickly.

J. Falcon

09-30-2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14837588)

I have yet to see an example of that from the current administration :2 cents:

That guy has to be fucking around. It's hard to be that dumb.

Sausage

09-30-2008 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14837581)

j falcon.. WHAT DO YOU WANT

what kind of america do you want?

dont say OBAMA'S america.. or something new, or anything like that...

just tell me what you want.

But Obama = Change !

His stickers and banners said so !

;)

Its so funny to watch videos and news clips of his speeches and rallys with all the simpletons just sitting there drooling open mouthed eating all those pretty words up!

buzzy

09-30-2008 07:42 PM

McCain surley can't be running for president, he probally can't even remember his own name. I'm just waiting for Ashton Kutcher to pop up and tell us we've all been punk'd.

J. Falcon

09-30-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14837685)

That's a very interesting arguement.

pocketkangaroo

09-30-2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14837685)

Same goes for McCain = Maverick. It's all bullshit slogans. But I'm going to guess you can't tell me why you are voting for McCain.

pocketkangaroo

09-30-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 14836747)

Maybe it's because those people are tired of being blasted with all kinds of personal insults, name calling ,etc.... just because they have a differing viewpoint politically.

I don't think that would be the case if someone laid out real reasons why they are. The only thing I've seen mentioned are that Obama is a secret Muslim, black, has a weird preacher, and is an elitist (whatever that is). That's why they aren't voting for Obama, but no one has said why they are voting for McCain.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, but do wonder what reasons there are that would trump his stance on conservative judges that would hurt this industry.

Sausage

09-30-2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14837793)

Same goes for McCain = Maverick. It's all bullshit slogans. But I'm going to guess you can't tell me why you are voting for McCain.

I think they are all idiots, but my comment was more of an observation. Regardless of whether you want Obama/quietboy or McCain/Palin you simply have to watch an Obama rally and see the audience. Its the funniest shit on earth the way they all carry on and soak up the crap that comes out of his mouth. Seriously its like watching the retard school's monthly outing to a football match ! :winkwink:

Watch some of them next time you will see what I mean .. its as funny as hell if you can put your political bias aside for a few mins entertainment ! :)

CyberHustler

09-30-2008 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14837814)

You have just described a McCain rally audience.

Sausage

09-30-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Decker (Post 14837819)

You have just described a McCain rally audience.

Nah thats different if a little more tragic. You have thousands of people who are trying so hard to be supportive and clap and cheer, but you can tell their heart isn't in it. McCain is such a terribly drab speaker.. the guy needs serious speech coaching. I find myself wincing when watching him, though we hardly get any McCain coverage, its all Obama this .. Obama that.

pocketkangaroo

09-30-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sausage (Post 14837814)

I agree. I don't think there is anything more pathetic than a campaign event. You have all these people cheering someone who really could give two shits about them. They spew bullshit about helping them, but they don't care. They'd slit a throat for an extra vote come November.

There is a big difference, although that's more based on what personality types go toward each party. Democrats fall in love with their candidates while Republicans fall in line.

Sausage

09-30-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14837847)

There is a big difference, although that's more based on what personality types go toward each party. Democrats fall in love with their candidates while Republicans fall in line.

Good observation !

BVF	09-30-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by robfantasy (Post 14837521)

i understand your frustration.. but u are not thinking logically.

what makes you think someone who has no idea of the inner workings of washington can come in and solve anything.

Obama is the perfect bullshitter. i understand that you are not a business owner and just a worker.

If you were going to hire someone, there is the guy who talks a good game who is full of shit who will lie and say anything to get the job but once hired, you realize they are worthless

then there is also a guy who actually has experience who has a solid resume.

anyone with any sense would go with the guy who has experience over the guy who just talks a good game. people can see past the bullshit

are the american people that desperate that they are willing to bet on someone who has never accomplished anything ? are we willing to hand over our country out of desperation.

i understand we are going thru tough times, but to hand over the country to an unknown with questionable ties, no experience and no proven anything is a little weak..

Oh well....It's going to happen anyway....

Suck it up and deal with it.

ninavain

09-30-2008 09:56 PM

:winkwink:

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 14836294)

This is America....He's fully entitled to be an idiot....Fortunately, there won't be enough like him to put McCain in office.

Walrus

10-01-2008 04:14 AM

I don't understand Republicans who work in adult. Their decision to be a Republican must solely come down to taxes. And nothing else.

Odin	10-01-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 14836294)

This is America....He's fully entitled to be an idiot....Fortunately, there won't be enough like him to put McCain in office.

An idiot no doubt. But those who think Obama is going to be any different or really "change" anything are just kidding themselves. The establishment has way too much money, power, influence and organization for you to simply wake up one day and vote them out. Obama is a big a tool of the establishment as John McCain. He may push the odd thing here or there, but he has already shown he will absolutely tow the line with his own "changing" positions.

J. Falcon

10-07-2008 06:52 PM

Well are you?

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