What is the "real" religion? - GoFuckYourself.com

redshift · 10-31-2002, 09:57 PM

I'm must be bored 'cause I'm sitting here thinking about religion.
I'm wondering what is the one true religion.
the Jews,christians,muslims, etc.. all think that their belief is the correct belief.

So who do think is right?

hell everyone maybe wrong and there's no GOD at all

Bobo · 10-31-2002, 09:59 PM

Any religion that permits bukkake, anal sex, and mastubation without persecution.

eru · 10-31-2002, 09:59 PM

Islam is the true religion. Mohammed was the last and most complete prophet. All hail Allah!

Joe Sixpack · 10-31-2002, 10:03 PM

Nobody is right. All religion is a bunch of horseshit.

Religion has always been a tool of the ruling class to control the masses.

redshift · 10-31-2002, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Bobo
Any religion that permits bukkake, anal sex, and mastubation without persecution.

scientology?

DTK · 10-31-2002, 10:04 PM

rastafari!!

DTK · 10-31-2002, 10:04 PM

or mennonite. one of the two

DTK · 10-31-2002, 10:06 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Nobody is right. All religion is a bunch of horseshit.

Religion has always been a tool of the ruling class to control the masses.

news flash

mech · 10-31-2002, 10:06 PM

The vast majority of people who go through an NDE (Near Death Experience) come back to say that your acceptance into Heaven is based on how you treated others during your life. If you loved others, treated them with compassion, etc. then what or who you worship is moot.

Backov · 10-31-2002, 10:08 PM

In other words... Give me a DVD player! Come on, you nerds debate about religion, I need a new DVD player goddamn it!

/redshift

Cheers,
Backov

redshift · 10-31-2002, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by DTK
or mennonite. one of the two

Aren't they basicly christian?

StacyCat · 10-31-2002, 10:11 PM

Money!

I agree, religion is a tool used by man. Man created god, not the other way around. Its either a tool that those in power used to keep the masses down, or it was created by man to explain things he didnt know about.

Then again, I am kinda sorta deist, meaning if there is a god, he created everything, and it sitting back jacking off on his creation :-D

UnseenWorld · 10-31-2002, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by mech
The vast majority of people who go through an NDE (Near Death Experience) come back to say that your acceptance into Heaven is based on how you treated others during your life. If you loved others, treated them with compassion, etc. then what or who you worship is moot.

Experiments tend to prove that near-death experiences are a brain phenomenon when the the brain is dying (and in some cases is resuscitated). A researcher was allowed to put legible signs up above a ledge at the top of hospital rooms. The wording on the signs would be legible to someone high enough to look down on a body but would not be seen by someone lying in bed. None of those reporting having been floating above their bodies could report what the signs read. Like "deja vu," it's something that seems real, but isn't.

UnseenWorld · 10-31-2002, 10:14 PM

If we can accept a religion without a God, I'd possibly go for Buddhism.

redshift · 10-31-2002, 10:15 PM

Well if there is a god he's has one hellva sense of humor

If he didn't want me to stick my willie in anything that moves he shouldn't have given me such a strong urge to do so!!!

Brown Bear · 10-31-2002, 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
If we can accept a religion without a God, I'd possibly go for Buddhism.

I agree. I'm not religious, but I think Buddhism makes the most sense.

redshift · 10-31-2002, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by Brown Bear

I agree. I'm not religious, but I think Buddhism makes the most sense.

what about Wicca - No God

Joe Sixpack · 10-31-2002, 10:21 PM

The only true religion is Sixpackism.

You must worship the sixpack and must drink one every day to be accepted in Sixpack heaven.

Follow my example and you will be saved.

archer · 10-31-2002, 10:23 PM

it doesn't really matter cuz at the end of the day, I'm right and your wrong!

that's the true religion

redshift · 10-31-2002, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
The only true religion is Sixpackism.

You must worship the sixpack and must drink one every day to be accepted in Sixpack heaven.

Follow my example and you will be saved.

Hmmmm I must be a TRUE believer then

Joe Sixpack · 10-31-2002, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by redshift

Hmmmm I must be a TRUE believer then

Bless you my son.

I am an ordained minister of the church of Sixpackism.

Now go find a sixpack and drink up.

mech · 10-31-2002, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
Experiments tend to prove that near-death experiences are a brain phenomenon when the the brain is dying (and in some cases is resuscitated). A researcher was allowed to put legible signs up above a ledge at the top of hospital rooms. The wording on the signs would be legible to someone high enough to look down on a body but would not be seen by someone lying in bed. None of those reporting having been floating above their bodies could report what the signs read. Like "deja vu," it's something that seems real, but isn't.

I'm fully aware of this, I've read many NDE stories and the scientific explanations and I believe the science. The fascinating thing though is that almost all NDE's have this "love not religion" connection. People of all different denominations come back saying this same thing as opposed to coming back saying "[insert Religion] is the one true faith". That's a very interesting phenomenon whether you believe in NDE or not.

quiet · 10-31-2002, 10:29 PM

q: so you're saying my life is meaningless?

a: absolutely!

q: but what's the point of it all then?

a: that's exactly it! there is none! welcome to your freedom!

bhutocracy · 10-31-2002, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
q: so you're saying my life is meaningless?

a: absolutely!

q: but what's the point of it all then?

a: that's exactly it! there is none! welcome to your freedom!

heheh

Manga1 · 10-31-2002, 11:05 PM

Taoism

Kris · 10-31-2002, 11:11 PM

religion is a cop out... people use it as an excuse for everything=whatever religion
example- a guy loses his job. he's having hard times. he decides to start going to church on sundays(a lifestyle change, nothing more). he changes his patterns. his life starts to get better. this guy will say it's because of religion, when he only changed his lifesyle.
interesting post... there is no 'real' religion...

MarkTiarra · 10-31-2002, 11:17 PM

I can't believe how many statements I've seen here that are predicated on an extreme lack of theological knowledge! =\

I asked myself the same question - what religion is "right" years ago and I decided to study all the ones I could find info on.

So in my studies I started finding most religions sharing a couple common elements and I started to wonder if the commonalities are where the truth lies. The concept of a God or Godforce and it being infinite. This leads one to explore exactly what the definition of infinity is...

That lead me to science and seeing where what we're learning at the cutting edge (Quantum and String Theory, etc...) would cross with old and new religious philosophies.

SO I'm not going to write a book here but instead encourage you to go on your own exploration. Don't take any one word for. Anyone who has to insist they are right over another is proving themself to be unsure of their belief lest they wouldhave no need to convince you of anything. You're sure you are human right? Do you have to go around proving it?

Good luck on your quest...

Kris · 10-31-2002, 11:17 PM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld
If we can accept a religion without a God, I'd possibly go for Buddhism.

agree with this... Buddhism doesn't say you don't believe in a god though... you can be a christian and a Buddhist. Buddhism is a way of life- follow the noble paths and you'll be enlightened. i follow it more because it puts responsibility on the person, not someone or something else.

Joe Sixpack · 10-31-2002, 11:22 PM

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Originally posted by MarkTiarra
I can't believe how many statements I've seen here that are predicated on an extreme lack of theological knowledge! =\

Sorry Mark, but not all of us have to become theologians to realize that ALL religions have come from mankind's desire to give meaning and purpose to his/her life.

All religion is pain relief for existential angst. Nothing more, nothing less.

Pornwolf · 10-31-2002, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by eru
Islam is the true religion. Mohammed was the last and most complete prophet. All hail Allah!

Watch what you say Shinto breath.

Pornwolf · 10-31-2002, 11:25 PM

Buddhism is the closest to a real religion in my opinion.

Joe Sixpack · 10-31-2002, 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf

Watch what you say Shinto breath.

Osama says: Allah rulez sucka!

UnseenWorld · 10-31-2002, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by redshift

what about Wicca - No God

Before I take Wicca seriously, tell me: What is Wicca's view of the afterlife?

MarkTiarra · 10-31-2002, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack

All religion is pain relief for existential angst. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now THAT'S a powerful statement. =]

UnseenWorld · 10-31-2002, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by mech
I'm fully aware of this, I've read many NDE stories and the scientific explanations and I believe the science. The fascinating thing though is that almost all NDE's have this "love not religion" connection. People of all different denominations come back saying this same thing as opposed to coming back saying "[insert Religion] is the one true faith". That's a very interesting phenomenon whether you believe in NDE or not.

That's interesting, but I'm not sure it means anything.

RedShoe · 10-31-2002, 11:43 PM

You all are going to hell!

http://BornAgain-Christians.com

UnseenWorld · 10-31-2002, 11:44 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
q: so you're saying my life is meaningless?

a: absolutely!

q: but what's the point of it all then?

a: that's exactly it! there is none! welcome to your freedom!

As Sartre would call it, "dreadful freedom." Since there is no God to fall back on, YOU are responsible for deciding what is right and what is wrong and acting accordingly.

Just because there is no God, it doesn't follow that there are no absolutes. Ethics make no sense without absolutes (e.g., relativisic ethical nonsense).

Somehow, right and wrong seem to have SOME kind of basis that we as humans are in touch with. Is it just religion that teaches us it would be wrong to do something like putting your cigarette out in a baby's eye? Is there no difference between that and pulling a drowning person out of a river? I would say most of think there must be!

Jakke PNG · 10-31-2002, 11:44 PM

The only true religion is that Jedi-cult thingy.

beemk · 10-31-2002, 11:45 PM

real religion = oxymoron

Pornwolf · 11-01-2002, 12:02 AM

The funny thing is Jedi is as real of a belief as Christianity. The only difference is Christianity used historical events to spin it's tall tales.

redshift · 11-01-2002, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Pornwolf
The funny thing is Jedi is as real of a belief as Christianity. The only difference is Christianity used historical events to spin it's tall tales.

I would expect it's alot more fun also

redshift · 11-01-2002, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

Before I take Wicca seriously, tell me: What is Wicca's view of the afterlife?

Found this:

The Life-Death-Rebirth Cycle
The Afterlife:When inquiring about a religion that we are unfamiliar with one of the things that we are most interested in is the afterlife. For most Wiccans the afterlife is where we go while we digest what we have learned in our last life before we reincarnate. Our spirits are part of a cycle where we are born, we die, and we are reborn a countless number of times.
The Purpose of the Cycle:Some Wiccans similar to Buddhists believe that this process has a goal. This goal is usually to learn and develop to achieve some vision of ascension. When we have learned all that this life has to teach us we will leave the reincarnation cycle for other planes of existance.

[Labret] · 11-01-2002, 12:13 AM

I dont know whether to cry, or to just sit here slackjawed.

It is like watching a bunch of Jerrys Kids try to figure out how a linux box works, and images of the angry prehumans from 2001 banging at the scary black object comes to mind.

To say that most of the things said here were a gross oversimplification of an otherwise obscenely complex topic, would be and understatement.

You all need a little Joseph Campbell to ease your heads from your asses.

I am scared that some of you are allowed to breed.

Kris · 11-01-2002, 12:24 AM

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Originally posted by [Labret]
I dont know whether to cry, or to just sit here slackjawed.

It is like watching a bunch of Jerrys Kids try to figure out how a linux box works, and images of the angry prehumans from 2001 banging at the scary black object comes to mind.

To say that most of the things said here were a gross oversimplification of an otherwise obscenely complex topic, would be and understatement.

You all need a little Joseph Campbell to ease your heads from your asses.

I am scared that some of you are allowed to breed.

"Myth is the secret opening through which the inexhaustible energies of the cosmos pour into human manifestation..." (Joseph Campbell

i've already got the toetem poles!!

quiet · 11-01-2002, 12:32 AM

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Originally posted by UnseenWorld

As Sartre would call it, "dreadful freedom." Since there is no God to fall back on, YOU are responsible for deciding what is right and what is wrong and acting accordingly.

Just because there is no God, it doesn't follow that there are no absolutes. Ethics make no sense without absolutes (e.g., relativisic ethical nonsense).

Somehow, right and wrong seem to have SOME kind of basis that we as humans are in touch with. Is it just religion that teaches us it would be wrong to do something like putting your cigarette out in a baby's eye? Is there no difference between that and pulling a drowning person out of a river? I would say most of think there must be!

i don't agree with the idea of absolute right and wrong. i'm a existential post-modernist. wheeee.

but i certainly don't feel like getting into it here. don't feel like arguing for days/weeks on terms and definitions - before an argument is even started...

pimplink · 11-01-2002, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by quiet

i don't agree with the idea of absolute right and wrong. i'm a existential post-modernist. wheeee.

but i certainly don't feel like getting into it here. don't feel like arguing for days/weeks on terms and definitions - before an argument is even started...

I see you've read Nietzche's "Beyond Good and Evil" Right on.

DjSap · 11-01-2002, 12:34 AM

atheism...since christians always claim it's a religion...

or buddhism...there you can do what the fuck you want as long as you beleive it's ok...

Joe Sixpack · 11-01-2002, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by DjSap
atheism...since christians always claim it's a religion...

Atheism, quite literally, is the absence of theistic belief.

That's all.

pimplink · 11-01-2002, 12:37 AM

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Originally posted by DjSap

or buddhism...there you can do what the fuck you want as long as you beleive it's ok...

Not really. Buddhism teaches the 4 noble truths. And one of these key "truths" is that freedom from attachments frees one from suffering. How is attachment dissolved in a person? Through renunciation--I doubt that "doing what the fuck you want" fits in with renunciation.

Kris · 11-01-2002, 12:38 AM

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Originally posted by DjSap
atheism...since christians always claim it's a religion...

or buddhism...there you can do what the fuck you want as long as you beleive it's ok...

since you have a clue what you're talking about

10-31-2002, 09:57 PM	#1
redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	What is the "real" religion? I'm must be bored 'cause I'm sitting here thinking about religion. I'm wondering what is the one true religion. the Jews,christians,muslims, etc.. all think that their belief is the correct belief. So who do think is right? hell everyone maybe wrong and there's no GOD at all

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StacyCat Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,167	Money! I agree, religion is a tool used by man. Man created god, not the other way around. Its either a tool that those in power used to keep the masses down, or it was created by man to explain things he didnt know about. Then again, I am kinda sorta deist, meaning if there is a god, he created everything, and it sitting back jacking off on his creation :-D

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redshift Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: anus fuckin' yo mama Posts: 1,044	Well if there is a god he's has one hellva sense of humor If he didn't want me to stick my willie in anything that moves he shouldn't have given me such a strong urge to do so!!!

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Joe Sixpack So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,793	The only true religion is Sixpackism. You must worship the sixpack and must drink one every day to be accepted in Sixpack heaven. Follow my example and you will be saved.

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	q: so you're saying my life is meaningless? a: absolutely! q: but what's the point of it all then? a: that's exactly it! there is none! welcome to your freedom! __________________ we'll miss you our friend. RIP Last edited by quiet; 10-31-2002 at 10:31 PM..

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Kris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 940	religion is a cop out... people use it as an excuse for everything=whatever religion example- a guy loses his job. he's having hard times. he decides to start going to church on sundays(a lifestyle change, nothing more). he changes his patterns. his life starts to get better. this guy will say it's because of religion, when he only changed his lifesyle. interesting post... there is no 'real' religion... __________________ I am the walrus.

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MarkTiarra Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 3,833	I can't believe how many statements I've seen here that are predicated on an extreme lack of theological knowledge! =\ I asked myself the same question - what religion is "right" years ago and I decided to study all the ones I could find info on. So in my studies I started finding most religions sharing a couple common elements and I started to wonder if the commonalities are where the truth lies. The concept of a God or Godforce and it being infinite. This leads one to explore exactly what the definition of infinity is... That lead me to science and seeing where what we're learning at the cutting edge (Quantum and String Theory, etc...) would cross with old and new religious philosophies. SO I'm not going to write a book here but instead encourage you to go on your own exploration. Don't take any one word for. Anyone who has to insist they are right over another is proving themself to be unsure of their belief lest they wouldhave no need to convince you of anything. You're sure you are human right? Do you have to go around proving it? Good luck on your quest... __________________ Retired Pornosticator

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[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	I dont know whether to cry, or to just sit here slackjawed. It is like watching a bunch of Jerrys Kids try to figure out how a linux box works, and images of the angry prehumans from 2001 banging at the scary black object comes to mind. To say that most of the things said here were a gross oversimplification of an otherwise obscenely complex topic, would be and understatement. You all need a little Joseph Campbell to ease your heads from your asses. I am scared that some of you are allowed to breed.

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DjSap Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,869	atheism...since christians always claim it's a religion... or buddhism...there you can do what the fuck you want as long as you beleive it's ok...