Decided to post a gallery to some TGPs... - GoFuckYourself.com

sortie · 09-28-2008, 09:54 AM

Every now and then I think of the old days and say "yeah, start doing that again".
Then shortly after I start reality rears it's head.

It didn't take long before it was clear that I wasn't going anywhere with this unless
I get partner accounts and each TGP is talking about back logs for partner accounts.

I think I gave up already. Maybe not, but it feels like it at the moment.

Violetta · 09-28-2008, 09:58 AM

dont think it will bring any good $$

sortie · 09-28-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

dont think it will bring any good $$

It used to. If I had solid accounts with 50 top TGPS then, if sales are anything
close to what they used to be, it's really good money.

The old days : did $36k in sales to massivecocks from TGP galleries in 6 months.

d-null · 09-28-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

............... if sales are anything close to what they used to be, .............

Jarmusch · 09-28-2008, 10:40 AM

There's no money in submitting, you did the right thing by giving up.

fastboy · 09-28-2008, 10:41 AM

nowadays you need to spend money in order to earn money

NoWhErE · 09-28-2008, 10:54 AM

Gallery submitting definitely isn't what it used to be a couple years ago.

If you want to make any type of profit, you have to have a good bankroll when you begin to scoop up good Partner Accounts and Paid spots. Otherwise, you'll be working for pennies.

NoWhErE · 09-28-2008, 10:56 AM

and you NEED Partner Accounts. If you use mass submitting tools like Chameleon, you may be submitting to 500+ tgps everytime you submit, but 99.9% of them will ever send you traffic and if they do, it'll be a hit or 2.

There are the odd TGPs that will send you some traffic, but as for the rest of the free TGPs, they are worthless.

Jim_Gunn · 09-28-2008, 11:03 AM

It's funny always hear everyone on the boards say TGP submitting is worthless unless you have partner accounts, and all the big program managers say don't even bother, you can't get listed unless you pay for a premium spot and it will eat all your bandwidth for little or no sales.

But when I speak to some small independent site operators (please don't out yourselves here either one of you, let's keep the convo between us, I know you are reading, he he) who submit their own unique galleries literally every day with Chameleon and have never paid for a partner account in their life, and they tell me that even today in 2008 that that they get listed all the time for free and get major traffic that converts for them. Hard to tell who to believe but I am going to give it a try.

sortie · 09-28-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null

Yeah, I know. what I'm saying is that half the sales I used to get is still a lot of
money. Even a 3rd of 36k for six months is money to me.

And I was only counting the income from the one sponsor site because other
sites I promoted had signups comming from tgp plus other sites. I just focused
on the one I could tell was all TGP traffic.

sortie · 09-28-2008, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

and you NEED Partner Accounts. If you use mass submitting tools like Chameleon, you may be submitting to 500+ tgps everytime you submit, but 99.9% of them will ever send you traffic and if they do, it'll be a hit or 2.

There are the odd TGPs that will send you some traffic, but as for the rest of the free TGPs, they are worthless.

Agreed. Submitting to 500 TGPs and only 30-60 send traffic.

polish_aristocrat · 09-28-2008, 11:10 AM

I failed at submitting 2003, can't believe how some people still make money with that in 2008

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

Every now and then I think of the old days and say "yeah, start doing that again".
Then shortly after I start reality rears it's head.

It didn't take long before it was clear that I wasn't going anywhere with this unless
I get partner accounts and each TGP is talking about back logs for partner accounts.

I think I gave up already. Maybe not, but it feels like it at the moment.

bro, send me 40.00 by epass and i'll have an account set up for you within an hour..

sortie · 09-28-2008, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

But when I speak to some small independent site operators (please don't out yourselves here either one of you, let's keep the convo between us, I know you are reading, he he) who submit their own unique galleries literally every day with Chameleon and have never paid for a partner account in their life, and they tell me that even today in 2008 that that they get listed all the time for free and get major traffic that converts for them. Hard to tell who to believe but I am going to give it a try.

The small guys are telling you the truth.
They submit unique content and therefore get the attention of the TGP.

The partner account is not to keep out webmasters, but to cut down on cheaters.
If theTGP is sure you are not a cheater and you have unique content then you should
get listed often.

sortie · 09-28-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

bro, send me 40.00 by epass and i'll have an account set up for you within an hour..

Is that per month?

Matyko · 09-28-2008, 11:17 AM

Still making nice money on pure submitting. 4.5-5k gross during summer. This month I am lucky if I reach 4k

Costs: 1-1.5k monthly, hosting and passes.
I would never recommend anyone to start submitting. If you have no skills already, you will fail and/or lose motivation lightning fast.
About CS: I use this tool and I am happy with it. You have to disable 80% of the sites in it [I checked my stats after half year of serious submitting and disbled those who never sent significant traffic/sales] that is 100% true.

TubeSubmitters · 09-28-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sortie

Is that per month?

http://www.shemp.com/shempgold.html
The cost is 40.00 USD per month..

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

Is that per month?

yes, you can submit 2 galleries a day....and i even list them...

Ross · 09-28-2008, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

yes, you can submit 2 galleries a day....and i even list them...

I'll take one from you tomorrow Shemp.

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

I'll take one from you tomorrow Shemp.

thanks Ross

fuzebox · 09-28-2008, 01:24 PM

I quit submitting about a year ago... Haven't looked back

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

I quit submitting about a year ago... Haven't looked back

you have skills a lot of webmasters dont have...

fuzebox · 09-28-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

you have skills a lot of webmasters dont have...

I think I just wasn't very good at galleries.

NoWhErE · 09-28-2008, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko

Still making nice money on pure submitting. 4.5-5k gross during summer. This month I am lucky if I reach 4k

Costs: 1-1.5k monthly, hosting and passes.
I would never recommend anyone to start submitting. If you have no skills already, you will fail and/or lose motivation lightning fast.
About CS: I use this tool and I am happy with it. You have to disable 80% of the sites in it [I checked my stats after half year of serious submitting and disbled those who never sent significant traffic/sales] that is 100% true.

Exactly, and how many hours a day does it really take you? 2-3-4-5?

You need to spend alot on passes to make money back, otherwise those 2-3-4 hours a day you spend submitting is for nothing.

And I agree with you on having to disable 80% of the sites. I did the same.

Pornwolf · 09-28-2008, 01:40 PM

Shemp is one of the few that plays no games.

Some of the sites will let you pay for a pass for years and maybe list you every now and then. With Shemp you get your money's worth.

He's as straight up as they come.

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

Shemp is one of the few that plays no games.

Some of the sites will let you pay for a pass for years and maybe list you every now and then. With Shemp you get your money's worth.

He's as straight up as they come.

thanks, Pornwolf...

HomerSimpson · 09-28-2008, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

yes, you can submit 2 galleries a day....and i even list them...

I submit only 1 gallery per day?
Can I get partner account at lower price for 1 gall/day?

qxm · 09-28-2008, 03:32 PM

I have walked through dangerous places.... uncharted territories and from where I come... Shemp is a Legend .........

epass >> freddykrueger
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the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerSimpson

I submit only 1 gallery per day?
Can I get partner account at lower price for 1 gall/day?

40.00 is the base price...its your option if you want to submit 1 or 2...
we do pix and movies and many webmasters will submit one of each...

NoWhErE · 09-28-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp

bro, send me 40.00 by epass and i'll have an account set up for you within an hour..

Shemp definitely has quality traffic.

Every month that pass pays for itself and more!

Wagerboy · 09-28-2008, 03:54 PM

Shemp is great. Not even sure if he remembers me but he has taught me alot. I might get one of those PA's just for kicks and submit for a month and see what becomes of it.

Kristian · 09-28-2008, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

bro, send me 40.00 by epass and i'll have an account set up for you within an hour..

Would be money well spent too. The Shemp's traffic is pure gold.

Jim_Gunn · 09-28-2008, 04:56 PM

I am curious, if someone submits a truly unique gallery to Shemp without a partner account does it simply not get listed under any circumstances or does it just get put further back in the queue?

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

I am curious, if someone submits a truly unique gallery to Shemp without a partner account does it simply not get listed under any circumstances or does it just get put further back in the queue?

Jim, we only accept galleries from pre-approved submitters ....ie the partner accounts..

Aussie Rebel · 09-28-2008, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

Is that per month?

I had a free account with Shemp years ago his traffic used to convert very well for me, but I don't submit galleries anymore so I don't have an account with him anymore.

Out of all the people in the biz, Shemp is one of the most honest and respected webmasters I have come accross

96ukssob · 09-28-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

bro, send me 40.00 by epass and i'll have an account set up for you within an hour..

I set up one of these with you tomorrow if thats cool

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bossku69

I set up one of these with you tomorrow if thats cool

sure thing

i just want to thank everyone for the very positive comments..
we try to keep things pretty simple..
...we dont ever sell more gallery spots than we can list on a daily basis...
and if you submit today, you get listed tomorrow..

aico · 09-28-2008, 08:41 PM

I just got an account with Shemp, all my galls get posted next day. Richard's Realm also posts my galls within an hour. Also, Persian Kitty has a free account, just fill out the form, then post and get galls up in a day or two. All three give me good traffic.

I also paid for Worldsex/Al4a, and probably won't be renewing it.

Pornwolf · 09-28-2008, 08:56 PM

It's a Shempfest in here! Haha

Richard's & Kitty are definitely top notch honest sites as well.

There's not enough of them.

aico · 09-28-2008, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pornwolf

It's a Shempfest in here! Haha

Richard's & Kitty are definitely top notch honest sites as well.

There's not enough of them.

I don't remember who it was, but one of the site owners wanted me to pay him $100 just to consider considering giving me a partner account. I almost bust an ass-gasket laughing so hard.

Matyko · 09-28-2008, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

I don't remember who it was, but one of the site owners wanted me to pay him $100 just to consider considering giving me a partner account. I almost bust an ass-gasket laughing so hard.

I have to two accounts with one-time fee of $100, I don't know which one was offered to you, but if its any of these two: you missed a huge opportunity. :P

aico · 09-28-2008, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko

I have to two accounts with one-time fee of $100, I don't know which one was offered to you, but if its any of these two: you missed a huge opportunity. :P

The account wasn't $100, it cost $100 to basically get them to read your request for a partner account, then the partner account was another fee. And it clearly stated that even if you paid the $100 for them to listen, it didn't guarantee they would.

Matyko · 09-28-2008, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

Exactly, and how many hours a day does it really take you? 2-3-4-5?

You need to spend alot on passes to make money back, otherwise those 2-3-4 hours a day you spend submitting is for nothing.

And I agree with you on having to disable 80% of the sites. I did the same.

40-80 minutes/gallery.
I don't spend such a huge amount on passes, but I am always willing to try new (recommended) ones.

tony286 · 09-28-2008, 10:35 PM

shemp you got to back to atl so I can buy you dinner this time

the Shemp · 09-28-2008, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

shemp you got to back to atl so I can buy you dinner this time

Tony, i would love to come back to Atlanta again...
i havent been able to travel by air since 2004, due to some health issues...
but i'm hopeful things will improve..

Pornwolf · 09-28-2008, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

I don't remember who it was, but one of the site owners wanted me to pay him $100 just to consider considering giving me a partner account. I almost bust an ass-gasket laughing so hard.

Daaaaaamn. Has gotten that crazy? It sounds out of control!

NoWhErE · 09-28-2008, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matyko

40-80 minutes/gallery.
I don't spend such a huge amount on passes, but I am always willing to try new (recommended) ones.

About the same amount of time for me.

I spend about 600 per month in passes. I've been itching to get a Pichunter pass, but they just aren't giving them out anymore

Matyko · 09-29-2008, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE

About the same amount of time for me.

I spend about 600 per month in passes. I've been itching to get a Pichunter pass, but they just aren't giving them out anymore

Sent you msg via ICQ ;)

hjnet · 09-29-2008, 05:19 AM

Gallery submitting definitely became a game where you'd need skills and experience. I'm submitting myself, and I also own a few MGPs, so I see it from both sides....

Martin · 09-29-2008, 05:43 AM

I tried a couple gallery spots on 2 of the biggest tgp's this month and didn't even get a sale. Back in the day these spots would bring close to 8-10+ joins on the first day each.

I stopped with the TGP game after most of my partner accounts where closed and they all stuck out their hands looking for money from me after years of sending them quality movie galleries. I paid for PAs for the first little while from some of better places like shemps and jizzhut etc, but after a while I noticed that what I was paying for the accounts, bandwidth, and my gallery submitter weekly payment wasn't adding up to be worth it any longer. If you can still crank out gals at a profit my hats off to ya.

09-28-2008, 09:54 AM	#1
sortie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,771	Decided to post a gallery to some TGPs... Every now and then I think of the old days and say "yeah, start doing that again". Then shortly after I start reality rears it's head. It didn't take long before it was clear that I wasn't going anywhere with this unless I get partner accounts and each TGP is talking about back logs for partner accounts. I think I gave up already. Maybe not, but it feels like it at the moment. __________________

09-28-2008, 09:58 AM	#2
Violetta Affiliate Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 28,735	dont think it will bring any good $$ __________________ M&A Queen

09-28-2008, 10:41 AM	#6
fastboy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: 493-390-837 Posts: 517	nowadays you need to spend money in order to earn money __________________

09-28-2008, 10:54 AM	#7
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,384	Gallery submitting definitely isn't what it used to be a couple years ago. If you want to make any type of profit, you have to have a good bankroll when you begin to scoop up good Partner Accounts and Paid spots. Otherwise, you'll be working for pennies. __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

09-28-2008, 10:56 AM	#8
NoWhErE Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 10,384	and you NEED Partner Accounts. If you use mass submitting tools like Chameleon, you may be submitting to 500+ tgps everytime you submit, but 99.9% of them will ever send you traffic and if they do, it'll be a hit or 2. There are the odd TGPs that will send you some traffic, but as for the rest of the free TGPs, they are worthless. __________________ skype: lordofthecameltoe

09-28-2008, 10:40 AM	#5
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	There's no money in submitting, you did the right thing by giving up.

09-28-2008, 11:03 AM	#9
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	It's funny always hear everyone on the boards say TGP submitting is worthless unless you have partner accounts, and all the big program managers say don't even bother, you can't get listed unless you pay for a premium spot and it will eat all your bandwidth for little or no sales. But when I speak to some small independent site operators (please don't out yourselves here either one of you, let's keep the convo between us, I know you are reading, he he) who submit their own unique galleries literally every day with Chameleon and have never paid for a partner account in their life, and they tell me that even today in 2008 that that they get listed all the time for free and get major traffic that converts for them. Hard to tell who to believe but I am going to give it a try.

09-28-2008, 11:10 AM	#12
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I failed at submitting 2003, can't believe how some people still make money with that in 2008 __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-28-2008, 11:17 AM	#16
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,671	Still making nice money on pure submitting. 4.5-5k gross during summer. This month I am lucky if I reach 4k Costs: 1-1.5k monthly, hosting and passes. I would never recommend anyone to start submitting. If you have no skills already, you will fail and/or lose motivation lightning fast. About CS: I use this tool and I am happy with it. You have to disable 80% of the sites in it [I checked my stats after half year of serious submitting and disbled those who never sent significant traffic/sales] that is 100% true. __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers

09-28-2008, 01:24 PM	#21
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,114	I quit submitting about a year ago... Haven't looked back

09-28-2008, 01:40 PM	#25
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Shemp is one of the few that plays no games. Some of the sites will let you pay for a pass for years and maybe list you every now and then. With Shemp you get your money's worth. He's as straight up as they come. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

09-28-2008, 03:32 PM	#28
qxm Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NoHo Posts: 5,970	I have walked through dangerous places.... uncharted territories and from where I come... Shemp is a Legend ......... epass >> freddykrueger </> __________________ ICQ: 266990876 Last edited by qxm; 09-28-2008 at 03:33 PM..

09-28-2008, 03:54 PM	#31
Wagerboy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,290	Shemp is great. Not even sure if he remembers me but he has taught me alot. I might get one of those PA's just for kicks and submit for a month and see what becomes of it. __________________ The Main Program That Makes Me Fucking Money!! Teens Getting Pounded

09-28-2008, 04:56 PM	#33
Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	I am curious, if someone submits a truly unique gallery to Shemp without a partner account does it simply not get listed under any circumstances or does it just get put further back in the queue?

09-28-2008, 08:41 PM	#38
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	I just got an account with Shemp, all my galls get posted next day. Richard's Realm also posts my galls within an hour. Also, Persian Kitty has a free account, just fill out the form, then post and get galls up in a day or two. All three give me good traffic. I also paid for Worldsex/Al4a, and probably won't be renewing it.

09-28-2008, 08:56 PM	#39
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	It's a Shempfest in here! Haha Richard's & Kitty are definitely top notch honest sites as well. There's not enough of them. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

09-28-2008, 10:35 PM	#44
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	shemp you got to back to atl so I can buy you dinner this time

09-29-2008, 05:19 AM	#49
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Gallery submitting definitely became a game where you'd need skills and experience. I'm submitting myself, and I also own a few MGPs, so I see it from both sides....

09-29-2008, 05:43 AM	#50
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I tried a couple gallery spots on 2 of the biggest tgp's this month and didn't even get a sale. Back in the day these spots would bring close to 8-10+ joins on the first day each. I stopped with the TGP game after most of my partner accounts where closed and they all stuck out their hands looking for money from me after years of sending them quality movie galleries. I paid for PAs for the first little while from some of better places like shemps and jizzhut etc, but after a while I noticed that what I was paying for the accounts, bandwidth, and my gallery submitter weekly payment wasn't adding up to be worth it any longer. If you can still crank out gals at a profit my hats off to ya. __________________