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  • Choder
    Confirmed User
    • Jul 2002
    • 446

    #1

    Big sponsors lowering rates

    Would you say it's bullshit if a big sponsor said they were going to lower their payout rates because of the new Visa regulations? Considering it's just a yearly fee they need to pay.
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  • ace0r
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    • Feb 2001
    • 1410

    #2
    i doubt any 'big' sponsor would..

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    • The Other Steve
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2001
      • 2106

      #3
      Well I have to disagree, I think it is perfectly possible and if it does happen it will be one more thing flowing on from the new Visa regs.

      If the sponsor had been using one of the big billing companies then their charge backs would have been hidden in the figures of hundreds of sites. Now that each pay site has to carry its own charge back ratio the big guys are going to have to pay a lot more attention to that nasty 1% figure.

      When you think about it sponsors must have found it difficult to pay a high commission to their webmasters - even on trials - and at the same time maintain a high quality members area.

      One way to cut back on charge backs is to have a members area that offers all the good stuff that is implied in the tour and to do that they have to find money to spend. One way to find that is by reducing commissions.

      My crystal ball is a little fuzzy but I think you will see more sponsors reducing commissions, more sponsors moving to a revenue sharing model rather than the current one off payment and I think you will see a lot of people ditching trials.
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      • DrGuile
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        • Jan 2002
        • 2025

        #4
        you're probably talking about sexhit.

        and they are lowering rates because they are stopping free trials.
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        • picindex
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          • Oct 2002
          • 1038

          #5
          sexhit is going to stop the free trial program?
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          • Lensman
            GFY Chaperone
            • Jan 2001
            • 9846

            #6
            Originally posted by DrGuile
            you're probably talking about sexhit.

            and they are lowering rates because they are stopping free trials.
            Lowering rates because they are STOPPING free trials??? Wouldn't it be the other way around?

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            • Milton
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2002
              • 1118

              #7
              Intressting...where is CJ tell us now how it will be !!!
              cj cj cj cj

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              • FATPad
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                • Oct 2001
                • 6693

                #8
                Probably less people getting tricked into signing up for a month, so less money to pay out.
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                • Hustlin Entertainment
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • May 2002
                  • 2326

                  #9
                  nay

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                  • WiredGuy
                    Pounding Googlebot
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 34512

                    #10
                    SexHit's payouts dropping to $45/su instead of $70. Quite a large drop but I can't say I'm surprised. I imagine their chargeback ratios were quite high.

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                    • Mr.Fiction
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                      • Feb 2002
                      • 9484

                      #11
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                      • BV
                        wtf
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 10914

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FATPad
                        Probably less people getting tricked into signing up for a month, so less money to pay out.
                        Exactamundo!

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                        • Jayson
                          Confirmed User
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 554

                          #13
                          Originally posted by WiredGuy
                          SexHit's payouts dropping to $45/su instead of $70. Quite a large drop but I can't say I'm surprised. I imagine their chargeback ratios were quite high.

                          WG
                          CJ is going to hate me posting this here, but there was an article in the papers in Aus today, saying they had to amend their accounts for last financial year as they had underprovisioned for chargebacks by A$2.28 million.

                          The article is here - http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...027038794.html
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                          • pimplink
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                            • Jun 2001
                            • 9535

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FATPad
                            Probably less people getting tricked into signing up for a month, so less money to pay out.
                            You might as well hit all the "free" AVS sites and all other "free" paysites as well. Maybe Sexhit was just overextended.

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                            • Probono
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                              • Oct 2002
                              • 2731

                              #15
                              I will wager that this will become an industry trend as companies become more agressive about refunding to avaoid chargebacks. I would not be surprised to see the 3 day trial follow the Dodo bird into the archives of extinct creatures also.

                              It is a bitch to have someone chargeback months of charges once their wife looks at a bill and asks them to explain the charges. I deal with the stuff daily and it means refund, refund, refund.

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                              • FreeFastHost
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 1588

                                #16
                                I don't sexhit is STOPPING free trials? If they are, I'm not using them anymore, and I've send them thousands of signups...

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                                • Probono
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 2731

                                  #17
                                  I don't sexhit is STOPPING free trials? If they are, I'm not using them anymore, and I've send them thousands of signups...



                                  Never said that they were. I was dusting off my crystal ball.

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                                  • XXX_Jman
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Oct 2002
                                    • 213

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Milton
                                    Intressting...where is CJ tell us now how it will be !!!
                                    cj cj cj cj
                                    CJ has left Sexhit...
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                                    • XXX_Jman
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 213

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by FreeFastHost
                                      I don't sexhit is STOPPING free trials? If they are, I'm not using them anymore, and I've send them thousands of signups...
                                      I think you will find the same with Intergal and Sexhit.....$45 per paid trial now...
                                      $70 for free trial=fucking ridiculous!
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                                      • Pornkings
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 5334

                                        #20
                                        WOW maybe things cought up with them.
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                                        • XXX_Jman
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Oct 2002
                                          • 213

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Pornkings
                                          WOW maybe things cought up with them.
                                          yeh...reality
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                                          • CowboyAtHeart
                                            Registered User
                                            • Oct 2002
                                            • 94

                                            #22
                                            *shrug*. Sponsors pay what they will. IMO, if an honest sponsor
                                            decided to lower their rates, I'd accept it. There are so many dishonest
                                            sponsors that might just start shaving traffic, ect, that I'd be
                                            happy they said so. Although, as another poster said, I doubt
                                            BIG sponsors would do so. BIG sponsors would do 200+ joins a day,
                                            at say $30-$40, what's $750 to them other than telling the wife/husband
                                            no, we have to pay visa, no "super fancy restaurant at $350/plate" this week.
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                                            • drunkdollars
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                                              • Apr 2002
                                              • 2734

                                              #23
                                              Sexhit= Adultshop?
                                              Im lost
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                                              • Jayson
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                                                • Oct 2001
                                                • 554

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by drunkdollars
                                                Sexhit= Adultshop?
                                                Im lost
                                                adultshop bought sexhit a while back
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                                                • Sambuka
                                                  Registered User
                                                  • Sep 2002
                                                  • 500

                                                  #25
                                                  Yep and adultshops shares here in Aussie dropped from 24 cents to 7.5 cents a share overnight because of all this VISA STUFF. They were going to report 12 million profit and then they said "oops we are going to report a loss for the next 2 quaters"

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                                                  • HS-Trixxxia
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2002
                                                    • 2946

                                                    #26
                                                    CJ quit as of October 26th.
                                                    Last week I was checking my links and saw this 2.99 trial on the sexhit sites. I'm checking it now and it's back to free 3-day trial.
                                                    I remember cj mentioning their chargeback ratio for them was lower than 2% and this she mentioned before the Visa regulations.

                                                    I'm not sure and maybe it's something we have to wait for, but so far they are the only ones to be lowering their payout rates.

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                                                    • Terenzo
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                                                      • Jan 2002
                                                      • 971

                                                      #27
                                                      isn't fnp sending their new members to intergal?? this could influence those free avses that use other programs for their traffic.
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