spain supreme court rules linking to torrents is legal - GoFuckYourself.com

gideongallery · 09-23-2008, 12:32 PM

looks like the fight against torrent sites in EU just got a lot harder

http://torrentfreak.com/linking-to-p...-spain-080919/

finally starting to get closer to the accurate bases in the law. Linking to the torrents is now legal, setup the fair use right to use torrents as a back up technology and then seeding would also be legal.

From that point record/movie/tv show companies will have to find and sue only those people who are downloading the content without having purchased a right to view some time in the past.

tony286 · 09-23-2008, 12:41 PM

why do you post here?

gideongallery · 09-23-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

why do you post here?

1. the laws regarding copyright material are being reclassified every day
2. most of you guys only post the convictions
3. the laws now establish strict civil liablities for make a false or bogus DMCA takedown request
4. this post changes the law so that pretty much any request to a spanish hosted site would be such a bogus request.

without this post most people would be blindly walking into the counter suit minefield.

SteveLightspeed · 09-23-2008, 01:27 PM

Gideon is a prick, put him on ignore.

Barefootsies · 09-23-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Gideon is a prick, put him on ignore.

The Duck · 09-23-2008, 02:42 PM

Interesting news, thanks.

Fletch XXX · 09-23-2008, 02:44 PM

fact: hundreds of torrents have been shared on this board

does that make this a warez type of forum now?

linking a torrent should be legal, nothing illegal about a link right?

gideongallery · 09-23-2008, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

Gideon is a prick, put him on ignore.

how you doing captain caveman

how goes that fight to get the DMCA rewritten in your favor.

Unga bunga me fight piracy.

seeandsee · 09-23-2008, 02:59 PM

so what, it's spain, usa have their own...

gideongallery · 09-23-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

so what, it's spain, usa have their own...

spain is part of the EU
sweden is part of the EU
the pirate bay is being attacked in sweden

this is the first precedent regarding the legality of linking to torrent files
which means it can be referenced by the pirate bay

the pirate bay serves torrents to the world including the US.

Jim_Gunn · 09-23-2008, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

how you doing captain caveman

how goes that fight to get the DMCA rewritten in your favor.

Unga bunga me fight piracy.

Gideon, you do realize that Steve is a millionaire who lives in a big house and you are some knucklehead who probably works as a functionary in an office somewhere who fancies himself an anarchist and spends his free time starting nonsensical arguments with porn webmasters and producers on a message board, right?

gideongallery · 09-23-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn

Gideon, you do realize that Steve is a millionaire who lives in a big house and you are some knucklehead who probably works as a functionary in an office somewhere who fancies himself an anarchist and spends his free time starting nonsensical arguments with porn webmasters and producers on a message board, right?

it obvious you don't understand me at all, i am nash capitalist. I object to people claiming monopoly rights for fair use. I want as much competition as possible in the fair use distribution of content. I want as many technologies as possible to compete with each other in the fair use rights of backup/recovery/timeshifting.

I want the cheapest, most effective, least problematic technology to win. That not anarchy that a free market.

Your the one who claims that 99% of people using torrents are using them to steal content they never purchased in the first place, when even the RIA own study said more than 50% of all torrent traffic is tv shows (like heroes, lost and other shows airing on broadcast tv).

Steve is the one who argued that the DMCA would be re-written to eliminate the safe harbor "loophole" dispite the fact there are 3 bills currently being proposed that would scale back the power of copyright holders because the DMCA went to far.

The courts keep pushing the line back (this example, lenz vs universal, 20th century vs cablevision) and supporting fair use.

Yet steve "captain caveman" jones keeps complaining about tube sites, and torrent sites instead of adapting.

Jim_Gunn · 09-23-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery

it obvious you don't understand me at all, i am nash capitalist. I object to people claiming monopoly rights for fair use. I want as much competition as possible in the fair use distribution of content. I want as many technologies as possible to compete with each other in the fair use rights of backup/recovery/timeshifting.

I want the cheapest, most effective, least problematic technology to win. That not anarchy that a free market.

From reading your posts it seems like your real agenda despite what you say above is for no one to have to pay for any form of entertainment that could potentially be downloaded online. After all why should they pay if free copies of nearly everything are ubiquitous and they can simply invoke fair use rights if challenged?

BV · 09-23-2008, 08:59 PM

Stay tuned any second for some reference to Betamax by Gideonjerkoff.

Kevin Marx · 09-23-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

Stay tuned any second for some reference to Betamax by Gideonjerkoff.

Damn.... I hate when someone steals my line....

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