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Old 09-22-2008, 06:10 AM   #1
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Ever had an out of body / near death experience?

I was reading over the weekend about a group of scientists that are trying to study the whole 'out of body' near death experience thing that a lot of people report. They are doing it by studying people in emergency rooms and operating rooms. Are the people that have these experiences the same sort that see aliens? Are their brains just dying and creating confusing images or are they really having an out of body experience.

Have you ever had one or known somebody that reported one?
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:14 AM   #2
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This question just set the mood for the rest of my day
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:25 AM   #3
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Yes.. about 2 years ago on a DXM trip.
It was more like an ego-disbandment
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Old 09-22-2008, 06:33 AM   #4
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:12 AM   #5
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i once drank too much gin/tonic - then a lot came out of my body and next day i felt nearly dead - is that what you meant?
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:20 AM   #6
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I only hope if I die and somehow come back...I don't encounter that little potty-mouthed black chick on the subway.


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Old 09-22-2008, 07:22 AM   #7
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Some drugs can give similiar experiences (or so i'm told

That experiment is pretty cool actually, they are putting pictures in emergency rooms that can only be seen from ceiling height looking downwards - they hope some of the people that have out of body experiences will see the pictures etc etc..
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:33 AM   #8
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:33 AM   #9
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Are the people that have these experiences the same sort that see aliens? Are their brains just dying and creating confusing images or are they really having an out of body experience.
I've seen aliens before.

Then i stopped taking 'E's and they never came back...
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:28 AM   #10
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I only hope if I die and somehow come back...I don't encounter that little potty-mouthed black chick on the subway.


lol..every time that I think of that film I wonder what the audition for that girl must have been like and did her parents sit in on it
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anyone can have this experience... its called Benzodiazapine withdrawal.

LOL

depersonalisation can be experienced by taking a bunch of Xanbars or benzos and then abruptly stopping.
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Old 09-22-2008, 08:30 AM   #12
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Some drugs can give similiar experiences (or so i'm told

That experiment is pretty cool actually, they are putting pictures in emergency rooms that can only be seen from ceiling height looking downwards - they hope some of the people that have out of body experiences will see the pictures etc etc..
Yup..that is what I read too. Then I thought that all they need is somebody to tell people what the pictures are and where they are located.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:34 PM   #13
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:42 PM   #14
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Don't think it was a near death experience but nevertheless it scared the shit outta me.

had a 6'6" 260 lb black man (obviously high on something) chase me in a empty store with only one cupboard with an axe.

ever cross the street without looking? and a car JUST misses you? you know that feeling of "oh shit oh shit oh shit" imagine that for 10 minutes.
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:45 PM   #15
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lol..every time that I think of that film I wonder what the audition for that girl must have been like and did her parents sit in on it
"Bu...but Mom - its just acting. I don't even know what half those words mean!"
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Old 09-22-2008, 02:46 PM   #16
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Back in December I "died" for 3-5 minutes. Unfortunately, I was unconscious and don't remember anything

What's weird though is several hours before then I was reacting very badly to the drugs they gave me (which isn't what caused me to "die" - I aspirated on vomit and my heart stopped). I had tubes down me and couldn't talk but even though I remember NOTHING of this, I was writing stuff down - phone numbers of friends to contact, information about medications I was taking - but most interesting was that I wrote "I'm freaking out. I keep passing out, having out of body experiences then waking up and not knowing where I am." I also wrote several times "I'm scared". Again, I don't remember any of that. I was for all intents and purposes unconscious but was functioning - very strange.

My uncle has died 3 times - 1st time he saw nothing. 2nd time he had that thing where you literally see your life pass before your eyes in high speed. 3rd time he said he had the most wonderful feeling - something that he couldn't even describe - just felt great. Only to be brought back by a nurse saying "You're not dying on MY shift!", lol.
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well i know for a fact that you can have lucid dreams (you "wake up" during your dream and can fly around and stuff).. about oobe's i'm not so sure, maybe what people experience is just some sort of lucid dream.. but when you finally die and your brain activity stops - that experience would also stop.
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I have a friend who died for 2 minutes on an operating table during a thyroid operation as a teen. She reports the classic NDE of a tunnel, a white light and seeing deceased relatives and friends..pets too. Real? I don't know, but she was convinced (and very convincing) that is was genuine and it changed her beliefs and outlook on life.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:20 AM   #20
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"Bu...but Mom - its just acting. I don't even know what half those words mean!"
lol..almost makes me wonder if there is a commentary on the DVD to watch and see if they talk about it
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Back in December I "died" for 3-5 minutes. Unfortunately, I was unconscious and don't remember anything

What's weird though is several hours before then I was reacting very badly to the drugs they gave me (which isn't what caused me to "die" - I aspirated on vomit and my heart stopped). I had tubes down me and couldn't talk but even though I remember NOTHING of this, I was writing stuff down - phone numbers of friends to contact, information about medications I was taking - but most interesting was that I wrote "I'm freaking out. I keep passing out, having out of body experiences then waking up and not knowing where I am." I also wrote several times "I'm scared". Again, I don't remember any of that. I was for all intents and purposes unconscious but was functioning - very strange.

My uncle has died 3 times - 1st time he saw nothing. 2nd time he had that thing where you literally see your life pass before your eyes in high speed. 3rd time he said he had the most wonderful feeling - something that he couldn't even describe - just felt great. Only to be brought back by a nurse saying "You're not dying on MY shift!", lol.
I am glad you didn't permanently die!

You have to love that nurse though..she didn't want the paper work.
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:23 AM   #22
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This has been studied numerous times. Someone finally took the initiative and spoke with people who go through high G force training where you get knocked out due to lack of oxygen to the brain. They experience the same damn thing. The way they explain it is how the brain slowly shuts down and in which parts it does first, second, and so forth that make everything super damn logical.
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ahh shit i shouldnt have opened this thread before i went to sleep and i really shouldn't even say anything but oh well here goes.

i will either blow your mind or lose you completely.

I think i know what the whole "near death experience" is.

As asm mentioned above the basic physical def. but theres a bit more to it. I think our reality of time starts to synch back up with the "real" reality of time. Anyone who has had an nde or heard of one will often hear about how the person felt like they were gone a very long time , like when you pass out you often pass out for seconds but feel like its been hours.

To put it into perspective, when you dream you usally somewhat dream in "realtime" i.e. you dream for an hour and in your dream it lasts roughly an hour.

In my nde i lived for several years in my "dream" yet i was only out for seconds
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Close smokey but most dreams just last a few seconds even if they seem to last for hours in ones reality.

The biggest thing is that whom it happens to is not fibbing and they should believe what has happened to them as it in all effects did. Good reason why everyone can be so convincing about it. Same goes with a lot of the same effects or visual processes. Which makes it understandable why some may have it as a life altering event. At the same time the natural sciences of why it happens and how it happens make perfect sense and can be replicated in labs. The best thing that comes out of it for some should be that in many instances the brain has a pleasant way to deal with death that can be more soothing.

I have had several near death and or "death" experiences by medical definition myself. Have had a few of the effects and even one that could of been described as an out of body experience though I know it was not, just the effect on my brain was.
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well i know for a fact that you can have lucid dreams (you "wake up" during your dream and can fly around and stuff).. about oobe's i'm not so sure, maybe what people experience is just some sort of lucid dream.. but when you finally die and your brain activity stops - that experience would also stop.
I used to have a lot of those "LUCID" dreams and out of body experiences, when I was fooling around with hypnosys and paranormal. I could will, doing the flying etc, then I got away from the whole thing and it stopped after a while. I still have very lucid dreams, extremly real and detailed, of places I have never been to. Then when I wake up, I recount some of what I saw and think how did my mind make up all those things, when in real life I have never seen anything like it ?
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Lucid dreams occasionally try to kill me, does that count?
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