Whatwould happen if Obama got elected But was killed? - GoFuckYourself.com

RogerV · 09-21-2008, 11:51 PM

that is what I'm afraid of but seems like nobody wants to talk about it.. we could possibly have another civil war.

Gouge · 09-22-2008, 12:17 AM

It would be a dream come true for me

Bojangles · 09-22-2008, 12:19 AM

Who knows?

Jens Van Assterdam · 09-22-2008, 12:35 AM

mikeyddddd · 09-22-2008, 01:22 AM

"Hail to the Chief" would be played for Biden a lot.

ninavain · 09-22-2008, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gouge

It would be a dream come true for me

you are a fucking moron

TheSenator · 09-22-2008, 05:51 AM

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pornguy · 09-22-2008, 05:57 AM

Think of it this way. what will happen when he is elected, And then again when he gets shot.

Sadly I think we might be in for it twice.

Too many people just can not control themselves anymore.

Sarah_Jayne · 09-22-2008, 06:04 AM

That would really depend on who killed him.

Zayne E. · 09-22-2008, 06:15 AM

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Fletch XXX · 09-22-2008, 06:19 AM

the civil war was not fought over race or slavery. The Civil War was fought over Industry, States rights, Southern Independence, the text tile mills etc... but not slavery or race.

there will never be another civil war in this country.

DarkJedi · 09-22-2008, 06:22 AM

the niggors would riot

SilentKnight · 09-22-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

That would really depend on who killed him.

I disagree.

Massive riots would ensue no matter what.

Any old excuse to loot and pillage will do these days.

Aliens could abduct him and blacks would somehow see it as a whitey conspiracy.

TheDoc · 09-22-2008, 07:29 AM

Biden would become president and the day would go on. But if someone didn't take out shit stain bush, then Obama is safe as hell.

NickPapageorgio · 09-22-2008, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

the civil war was not fought over race or slavery. The Civil War was fought over Industry, States rights, Southern Independence, the text tile mills etc... but not slavery or race.

there will never be another civil war in this country.

Pretty damn accurate. Infact, the emancipation proclamation and freeing the slaves and all that was actually a political move by Lincoln to garner support from Britain and France. They like to trumpet Lincoln as this freedom fighter. He literally had to be talked into it for the most part.

Fletch XXX · 09-22-2008, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NickPapageorgio

Pretty damn accurate. Infact, the emancipation proclamation and freeing the slaves and all that was actually a political move by Lincoln to garner support from Britain and France. They like to trumpet Lincoln as this freedom fighter. He literally had to be talked into it for the most part.

Ive gotten into so many arguments over this in my lifetime, it started in highschool. SOme fucking Teacher from New York came down here to teach Us History, I had to teach him!

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The war was fought over Southern independence, not over slavery. Lincoln said repeatedly the war was not being fought over slavery. In August 1862, over a year after the war started, Lincoln wrote an open letter to a prominent Republican abolitionist, Horace Greeley, in which he said he did not agree with those who would only ?save? the Union if they could destroy slavery at the same time. Lincoln added that if he could ?save? the Union without freeing a single slave, he would do so (Letter to Horace Greeley, August 22, 1862, published in the New York Tribune).

In July 1861, after the First Battle of Manassas (Bull Run) had been fought, the U.S. Congress passed a resolution, by an overwhelming majority, that declared the war was not being fought to disturb slavery, nor to subjugate the South, but only to ?maintain the Union? (i.e., to force the Southern states back into the Union). A few months later, in September, a group of Radicals visited Lincoln to urge him to make compulsory emancipation a war objective. Lincoln declined, telling the Radicals, ?We didn?t go into the war to put down slavery, but to put the flag back? (Brodie, Thaddeus Stevens, p. 155; Klingaman, Abraham Lincoln and the Road to Emancipation, pp. 75-76). Later on, about halfway through the war, the Radicals and other Republicans succeeded in making the uncompensated abolition of Southern slavery a secondary goal of the war. However, the primary purpose of the federal invasion was always to destroy Southern independence.

http://www.factasy.com/civil_war/200...t_over_slavery

People who think the Civil War was fought over slavery are the most ignorant people when it comes to American History.

DWB · 09-22-2008, 07:45 AM

The VP would step in. Every black person would cry racism. The world would shed tear. Then life would go on as usual.

Jakez · 09-22-2008, 08:13 AM

I wouldn't trust him if he DOESN'T get killed.. funny how that works LOL. Look at Kennedy and look at Bush.. who's still living? Think about it.

Sarah_Jayne · 09-22-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

I disagree.

Massive riots would ensue no matter what.

Any old excuse to loot and pillage will do these days.

Aliens could abduct him and blacks would somehow see it as a whitey conspiracy.

I didn't say chaos wouldn't happen but that what kind of chaos and long term results would differ depending on who did it. If it was some redneck white American guy there is one version of chaos. If it is a non-American terrorist type that killed him then that is a whole other kind of chaos that would even have the right wingers calling for people and places to be 'nuked'.

brassmonkey · 09-22-2008, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

The VP would step in. Every black person would cry racism. The world would shed tear. Then life would go on as usual.

like there isnt a line drawn between black and white it would be a good fight

YellowPages · 09-22-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bojangles

Who knows?

Well, I'm suprised someone hasn't brought this up.

Either candidate has a good chance of dying. Obama could get killed or die, and McCain could keel over or possible end up getting killed.

Now, I put a lot of faith in the Secret Service, I think they are damned good at their job.

The question should be asked; if the President gets killed or dies who do you want to be your next president?

Biden or Palin?

cherrylula · 09-22-2008, 10:06 AM

They wouldn't kill him, just wound him and put him in his place like they did with Reagan.

TubeTitans_SusieQ · 09-22-2008, 10:07 AM

its kind of inevitable....

CaptainHowdy · 09-22-2008, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TubeTitans_SusieQ

its kind of inevitable....

What do you know? I'm calling the feds...

_Richard_ · 09-22-2008, 10:11 AM

better time spent making sure that doesn't happen

IllTestYourGirls · 09-22-2008, 10:49 AM

Id be glad Im not living in a city and have like 2 blacks in my town. There would be riots everywhere. Because you know if you do something against a black person the most logical thing for blacks to do is rob a liquor store and steal some tvs. /sarcasm

J. Falcon · 09-22-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Gouge

It would be a dream come true for me

Why is that?

J. Falcon · 09-22-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

That would really depend on who killed him.

As if we would ever find out if it happened.

J. Falcon · 09-22-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

Any old excuse to loot and pillage will do these days.

So murdering a president is "any old excuse" ?

RogerV · 09-22-2008, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

the civil war was not fought over race or slavery. The Civil War was fought over Industry, States rights, Southern Independence, the text tile mills etc... but not slavery or race.

there will never be another civil war in this country.

it could be a race war then. but the only war on american soil was the civil war. which was the point I was trying to make

brassmonkey · 09-22-2008, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Id be glad Im not living in a city and have like 2 blacks in my town. There would be riots everywhere. Because you know if you do something against a black person the most logical thing for blacks to do is rob a liquor store and steal some tvs. /sarcasm

like white people dont steal

RogerV · 09-22-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

like white people dont steal

yes white people steal.. but if palin or any white pres got shot or killed I doubt any riots would brake out over it from women or crackers..

I saw what happend in LA with Rodney king.

Dont get me wrong I like Obama but this does concern me

After Shock Media · 09-22-2008, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerV

but the only war on american soil was the civil war. which was the point I was trying to make

You do know that the Japanese successfully invaded and occupied parts of Alaska right? Which does mean part of WWII was on American soil (Pearl Harbor excluded since they did not land).

So that's another besides the civil war. Assuming we do not count the Mexican American war.

As for thread topic, Biden will become President. Shit will happen, people will fight, crap will get slung, and well nothing could really stop that. Outcome of it all would be uncertain.

Now people really should be talking about what happens when Florida and perhaps another state or two but specifically Florida fucks it all up again and it goes to the lawyers and courts.

dav3 · 09-22-2008, 11:47 PM

You won't have to worry about that with Obama. Only if a guy that wants to change to much of how big government is run will you have to worry about this.

Drake · 09-23-2008, 12:15 AM

It's hard to say. Like Dirtywhiteboy said, there would definitely be cries of racism, grief, then life would move on.

As for rioting I'd give it different odds depending on how soon after his inauguration and who shot the bullets. If it happened right out of the gate, emotions would probably run higher, but I'm still not sure if this would set off an actual riot LA style. But if it was going to happen, it'd probably happen the sooner after inauguration than later in the term. If it happened after several years, it'd be seen as a tragedy but closer to the unfortunate demise of some past Presidents'. But maybe it would be just as emotional then too, I dunno.

Thing is, the riots like the ones after Rodney King were a direct reaction to a clearly documented injustice. Government officials meting out 'vigilante justice' on a guy because he was black (note: although I'm in favor of cops beating up all drunk drivers, but until it's law you can't) and getting off the hook scot free in spite of bullet-proof evidence (video) of their crime. Most of the time such beatings are not caught on tape, so the community that bears most of the brunt of police brutality felt the State was giving its Agents a free pass to openly abuse them. The LA riots were a product of fear, anger, frustration, and of course old fashion hooliganism/thuggery of opportunists.

A similar reaction to an Obama assassination is less clear because the perpetrator (assuming it's a lone individual) isn't a representative of the State (officer, judicial system). Secondly, a reaction would be tempered by the mere fact that Obama was elected in the first place which would show that while most of the country was ready for a Black President, some individual(s) in the country weren't. Anger might arise, but there is nobody but the individual perpetrator to pin that anger on. There is also the time of the assissations to the time when it's known who is responsible for it. I think most people would be wondering whodunnit.

Drake · 09-23-2008, 12:27 AM

Basically the riots of the past occured when Agents of the State were seen as abusing their power. In the Rodney King situation, it was crystal clear. If the State that is there to protect you revokes that protection, it makes sense to riot. An assassination is more of an unfortunate isolated circumstance and given race relations it's is even considered quite probable in an Obama presidency. I think everybody knows this going forward.

Drake · 09-23-2008, 12:42 AM

Either way, nothing approaching a civil war would even be remotely possible following an Obama assassination.

After Shock Media · 09-23-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Either way, nothing approaching a civil war would even be remotely possible following an Obama assassination.

Good replies, now will you address my issue with the "what if" Florida and or another state fucks it up again and it goes to the lawyers and courts. We all know this is a major possibility and with Florida's new voter rules (specially challenges of voters) it is just looming on the horizon.

Drake · 09-23-2008, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Good replies, now will you address my issue with the "what if" Florida and or another state fucks it up again and it goes to the lawyers and courts. We all know this is a major possibility and with Florida's new voter rules (specially challenges of voters) it is just looming on the horizon.

Yeah I have no idea. I mean, regardless of what the polls look like now or later assuming Obama keeps his lead, he still has an uphill battle in front of him. Kerry was leading at this point, Kerry also 'won' the debates according to the polls, then the Florida issue happened. If the drama at the closing of this election is anything like its been running up to it, it's going to be an inverted reach-around clusterfuck.

Sarah_Jayne · 09-23-2008, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon

As if we would ever find out if it happened.

Well, there is that but if there had been camera phones everywhere during the Kennedy assassination we wouldn't be seeing the one and only clip over and over again.

SomeCreep · 09-23-2008, 01:03 AM

Hillary Clinton would automatically become president and Bill Clinton, vice president.

After Shock Media · 09-23-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash

Well, there is that but if there had been camera phones everywhere during the Kennedy assassination we wouldn't be seeing the one and only clip over and over again.

Again you would never be sure. Some officials claimed they never thought of people using jets as missiles even though it has been done in movies numerous times. What is to stop some smarter organizer to watch a few more movies and news shows to easily learn that anyone can build a small EMP device without even raising an eyebrow to assist in covering their tracks?

Ya I know sounds a wee bit high tech or sci-fi but then again a shoe bomb, come on.

topnotch, standup guy · 09-23-2008, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

the civil war was not fought over race or slavery. The Civil War was fought over Industry, States rights, Southern Independence, the text tile mills etc... but not slavery or race.

This is true.

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

there will never be another civil war in this country.

If people like Gouge get their way, there will be blood on the streets in every major American city like you can't even imagine.

They'll be a civil war alright, it'll just be different than the last one.

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	It's hard to say. Like Dirtywhiteboy said, there would definitely be cries of racism, grief, then life would move on. As for rioting I'd give it different odds depending on how soon after his inauguration and who shot the bullets. If it happened right out of the gate, emotions would probably run higher, but I'm still not sure if this would set off an actual riot LA style. But if it was going to happen, it'd probably happen the sooner after inauguration than later in the term. If it happened after several years, it'd be seen as a tragedy but closer to the unfortunate demise of some past Presidents'. But maybe it would be just as emotional then too, I dunno. Thing is, the riots like the ones after Rodney King were a direct reaction to a clearly documented injustice. Government officials meting out 'vigilante justice' on a guy because he was black (note: although I'm in favor of cops beating up all drunk drivers, but until it's law you can't) and getting off the hook scot free in spite of bullet-proof evidence (video) of their crime. Most of the time such beatings are not caught on tape, so the community that bears most of the brunt of police brutality felt the State was giving its Agents a free pass to openly abuse them. The LA riots were a product of fear, anger, frustration, and of course old fashion hooliganism/thuggery of opportunists. A similar reaction to an Obama assassination is less clear because the perpetrator (assuming it's a lone individual) isn't a representative of the State (officer, judicial system). Secondly, a reaction would be tempered by the mere fact that Obama was elected in the first place which would show that while most of the country was ready for a Black President, some individual(s) in the country weren't. Anger might arise, but there is nobody but the individual perpetrator to pin that anger on. There is also the time of the assissations to the time when it's known who is responsible for it. I think most people would be wondering whodunnit. Last edited by Drake; 09-23-2008 at 12:17 AM..

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Basically the riots of the past occured when Agents of the State were seen as abusing their power. In the Rodney King situation, it was crystal clear. If the State that is there to protect you revokes that protection, it makes sense to riot. An assassination is more of an unfortunate isolated circumstance and given race relations it's is even considered quite probable in an Obama presidency. I think everybody knows this going forward. Last edited by Drake; 09-23-2008 at 12:30 AM..

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Either way, nothing approaching a civil war would even be remotely possible following an Obama assassination. Last edited by Drake; 09-23-2008 at 12:43 AM..

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