the "separate IP" bandwagon.... - GoFuckYourself.com

d-null · 09-21-2008, 04:33 PM

just wondering if the whole webmaster bandwagon of late to want separate IP's on all of their sites is getting silly and google is nullifying any advantage it used to have anyways

I admit I have been on that bandwagon for awhile now, to the point where I get stressed if I don't have separate IP's, but I noticed something in the last few months that has got me wondering, where I am actually seeing some very similar sites of mine that are sharing IP's way outperforming those that have separate IP's.... obviously this is not due to the IP but goes to show that having a shared IP may not hurt at all as many might think

it sure is making me wonder, and google is obviously aware of the webmaster trend toward unique IP's so I wouldn't doubt if they would take that out of the equation for the algorithm

Rorschach · 09-21-2008, 04:35 PM

well i think it's pretty clear that having multiple sites on 1 ip doesn't make much of a difference, especially if they're not linking to one another, but having a dedicated ip was mentioned in one of google's patents as being a potential indicator of "quality."

GigoloShawn · 09-21-2008, 04:36 PM

...if they're all just snarfing the same RSS feeds with the same basic skin, it doesn't fucking matter, anyhow.

d-null · 09-21-2008, 04:38 PM

and I don't think google is dumb enough to not notice a linkfarm between a bunch of ips that happen to be hosted in the same geographical spot

GigoloShawn · 09-21-2008, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

and I don't think google is dumb enough to not notice a linkfarm between a bunch of ips that happen to be hosted in the same geographical spot

IP Tunneling is so easy that BadDog can do it, dude.

d-null · 09-21-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GigoloShawn

IP Tunneling is so easy that BadDog can do it, dude.

haven't looked into that, quick explanation please?

GigoloShawn · 09-21-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by d-null

haven't looked into that, quick explanation please?

"Location is just a serving suggestion."

d-null · 09-21-2008, 04:44 PM

anyways, the majority of webmasters requesting hosting with 10 different IP's are doing so simply because they are expecting a boost in serps due to the separate IP's and maybe also the interlinking between sites getting more credit.... I doubt many go beyond that so my initial post is questioning whether any of this really does provide any benefit whatsoever in google's algorithm nowadays, and from what I have seen recently I am beginning to doubt that it does

SpeakEasy · 09-21-2008, 04:44 PM

Separate ip's are one thing but different c classes is useless.

marketsmart · 09-21-2008, 04:52 PM

i dont see the need for multiple ip's anymore..

mynameisjim · 09-21-2008, 05:15 PM

It's more of cheap insurance than anything else. If Google ever decides to give separate IPs more weight, you're covered. If not, it doesn't hurt any and might allow you to slip under the radar for some minor interlinking you may do.

So basically. No downside, possible upside. That's why people do it. I've seen some articles posted with anecdotal stories about some sites doing better than others on a separate IP, but you can never compare sites like that with 100% accuracy. There are just too many variables.

09-21-2008, 04:33 PM	#1
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	the "separate IP" bandwagon.... just wondering if the whole webmaster bandwagon of late to want separate IP's on all of their sites is getting silly and google is nullifying any advantage it used to have anyways I admit I have been on that bandwagon for awhile now, to the point where I get stressed if I don't have separate IP's, but I noticed something in the last few months that has got me wondering, where I am actually seeing some very similar sites of mine that are sharing IP's way outperforming those that have separate IP's.... obviously this is not due to the IP but goes to show that having a shared IP may not hurt at all as many might think it sure is making me wonder, and google is obviously aware of the webmaster trend toward unique IP's so I wouldn't doubt if they would take that out of the equation for the algorithm __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

09-21-2008, 04:36 PM	#3
GigoloShawn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: No longer with Star Marketing Group. Posts: 700	...if they're all just snarfing the same RSS feeds with the same basic skin, it doesn't fucking matter, anyhow. __________________ I no longer represent TrafficGigolos, please contact Justin or Rebecca with any issues.

09-21-2008, 04:38 PM	#4
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	and I don't think google is dumb enough to not notice a linkfarm between a bunch of ips that happen to be hosted in the same geographical spot __________________ __________________ Looking for a custom TUBE SCRIPT that supports massive traffic, load balancing, billing support, and h264 encoding? Hit up Konrad! Looking for designs for your websites or custom tubesite design? Hit up Zuzana Designs Check out the #1 WordPress SEO Plugin: CyberSEO Suite

09-21-2008, 05:15 PM	#11
mynameisjim Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 2,985	It's more of cheap insurance than anything else. If Google ever decides to give separate IPs more weight, you're covered. If not, it doesn't hurt any and might allow you to slip under the radar for some minor interlinking you may do. So basically. No downside, possible upside. That's why people do it. I've seen some articles posted with anecdotal stories about some sites doing better than others on a separate IP, but you can never compare sites like that with 100% accuracy. There are just too many variables. __________________ jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

09-21-2008, 04:35 PM	#2
Rorschach So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 5,579	well i think it's pretty clear that having multiple sites on 1 ip doesn't make much of a difference, especially if they're not linking to one another, but having a dedicated ip was mentioned in one of google's patents as being a potential indicator of "quality."

09-21-2008, 04:44 PM	#8
d-null . . . Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: NY Posts: 13,724	anyways, the majority of webmasters requesting hosting with 10 different IP's are doing so simply because they are expecting a boost in serps due to the separate IP's and maybe also the interlinking between sites getting more credit.... I doubt many go beyond that so my initial post is questioning whether any of this really does provide any benefit whatsoever in google's algorithm nowadays, and from what I have seen recently I am beginning to doubt that it does

09-21-2008, 04:44 PM	#9
SpeakEasy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Internet Posts: 2,681	Separate ip's are one thing but different c classes is useless.

09-21-2008, 04:52 PM	#10
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	i dont see the need for multiple ip's anymore..