Emmit Smith the Greatest? - GoFuckYourself.com

theone · 10-29-2002, 12:20 PM

My congrats to Emmit. He is a class act and deserves the rushing title. But there has been debate on is he the greatest rusher of all time? After seeing his past runs on ESPN last night, I might have to say yes.

nocostporn · 10-29-2002, 12:23 PM

even though he's a dick,Jim Brown...he retired at 30,Emmitt wouldnt have any records if Jim played til his age

dig420 · 10-29-2002, 12:30 PM

Payton, Sanders and Brown were all better than Smith and Earl Campbell might have been too if his legs had held up..

you gotta remember that Smith had an excellent offensive line, a good team and a great quarterback for most of his career. The fact that the Cowboys had multiple offensive threats made it much easier for him to gain yards than it was for Payton.

Bears opponents KNEW Payton was coming every time he touched the ball. Cowboys opponents had to cover the air attack AND the ground attack.

Not to say Smith isn't good, he's just not as good as Sweetness

Keev · 10-29-2002, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by dig420
Payton, Sanders and Brown were all better than Smith and Earl Campbell might have been too if his legs had held up..

you gotta remember that Smith had an excellent offensive line, a good team and a great quarterback for most of his career. The fact that the Cowboys had multiple offensive threats made it much easier for him to gain yards than it was for Payton.

Bears opponents KNEW Payton was coming every time he touched the ball. Cowboys opponents had to cover the air attack AND the ground attack.

Not to say Smith isn't good, he's just not as good as Sweetness

Couldn't agree more....

Sanders was awesome as well same situation as Payton

Another good one was Gayle Sayers

jreaka · 10-29-2002, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by nocostporn
even though he's a dick,Jim Brown...he retired at 30,Emmitt wouldnt have any records if Jim played til his age

Hands down Jim Brown, no question about it.

cosis · 10-29-2002, 01:07 PM

Jim Brown or Barry Sanders crush Emmit, Sanders was fun as hell to watch, I can't believe he retired so early

BradShaw · 10-29-2002, 01:25 PM

Everything in life is based on #'s. He has the most yard, most TD's, and most rings.

GregP · 10-29-2002, 01:41 PM

Definately in the top 3

howard · 10-29-2002, 01:59 PM

WAY OVERARTED..

The only thing he ever did well was run behind
a lot of big fat people. I'll give him 1 thing and
that is he's durable. He was a durable above
average back who has way overstayed his worth.
He should have retired 5 years ago.

I would rather have:

Bo Jackson(healthy)
Walter Payton
Earl Dickerson
Barry sanders
Thurman Thomas
Rager Craig
Marcus Allen
Franco Harris
Ricky Williams
Tony Dorsett
Terrel Davis ( healthy)
Earl Cambell
Wilbert Montgomery
Chuck Muncie
Billy Simms
(many, many more)

Kris · 10-29-2002, 02:05 PM

they were talking about this on sportscenter this morning and brought up an interesting point. the guy was talking about how you tend to say someone you watched when you were 18-35 is the best ever. as for emmitt being it, he even said he didn't think so.

overflow · 10-29-2002, 02:56 PM

Walter Payton I rest my case.

nocostporn · 10-29-2002, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by howard
WAY OVERARTED..

The only thing he ever did well was run behind
a lot of big fat people. I'll give him 1 thing and
that is he's durable. He was a durable above
average back who has way overstayed his worth.
He should have retired 5 years ago.

I would rather have:

Bo Jackson(healthy)
Walter Payton
Earl Dickerson
Barry sanders
Thurman Thomas
Rager Craig
Marcus Allen
Franco Harris
Ricky Williams
Tony Dorsett
Terrel Davis ( healthy)
Earl Cambell
Wilbert Montgomery
Chuck Muncie
Billy Simms
(many, many more)

you put that in order? Ricky Williams has been in the league 3 years,be for real... O.J Simpson is top 8 at least..but I do agree with Bo Jackson,he quite possibly could have been the best if he didnt get hurt

<IMX> · 10-29-2002, 04:09 PM

I have to put a premium on these four:
Barry Sanders
Walter Payton
Jim Brown
Erick Dickerson

Awesome stats, and avg yard per carry.

E. Smith just doesn't have the avg yard per carry stat even close...

Who knows what the history book would be like if each of these guys (excpetion of Payton) played day in day out...nevermind the luck of playing behind one of the greatest O-lines ever.

Sorry I wouldn't include backs like Terrel Davis. No way TD was going to contiune that pace, given the way he ran and the hits he took on a weekly basis. Injury was envitable.

Barry on the other hand...could have put 2 more 2k seasons together.

FATPad · 10-29-2002, 04:15 PM

Sorry. Part of being the best ever is being durable.

Emmit was far from the best in any single season.

He was however, extremely durable, extremely tough, extremely dependable, he knew the role on his team, he was a damn good running back, a damn good blocker, and most importantly, he knew how to win.

I'll take him before anyone except maybe Barry Sanders.

Dax · 10-29-2002, 04:19 PM

Best pure runner: Barry Sanders

Best Running back: Jim Brown

Mutt · 10-29-2002, 04:21 PM

You guys are too young, hell even I'm too young. From everything I know, and my Dad watched all Cleveland Browns games, Jim Brown was in a league by himself.

He was just unstoppable, he ran over people. He also did the coolest thing and just walked away from the game at the height of his career at 30 or 31.

Payton comes next. He played on many HORRIBLE Bears teams and still amassed great yardage and excelled.

Emmit is a great durable back, but not in Brown's or Payton's class
as a pure talent. Emmit for most of his glory days was on a star studded offense. Emmit deserves his props as one of the greatest but can't be included in any debate over who's the greatest of all time.

Gale Sayers is the one people think could have been the best of them all but his career was too short.

Brown and Payton.........then the rest. Not sure why O.J. Simpson never ranks higher, i grew up watching him and you just don't see anybody these days do what OJ did, putting up 250 yard days
. And this doesn't have to do with OJ's new status as psychopath and double murderer.......he wasn't regarded as Brown's equal even before.

<IMX> · 10-29-2002, 04:32 PM

Durability?
Dude..same goes for Sanders, Brown, Payton, and Dickerson.
All very durable backs. Injury didn't take those guys off the field, they took themselves out.

As far as being a leader, it helps to have a good team. In the NFL RBs aren't really the de facto leaders, that has to be your QB. I can't even name the QBs Sanders, Brown and Dickerson had for the majority of their years.

In fact, e. smith has been rotating in and out for the past two years, holding on trying to surpass this record ... maybe he will finally retire now.

theone · 10-29-2002, 04:32 PM

Well you have to take in to account championships. Jim Brown and some of the others mentioned never won a championship. Emmit has won 3 and would have had 4 if it wasn't for the miser Jerry Jones. The Cowboys may have had other weapons, Irving etc. but the bulk was carried by Emmit. He made big plays and scored when teams knew he would get the ball. He rushed for over 200 yards in the first half in a game against minnesota and would have gotten 500 that game if it weren't for an injury to his had. Emmit is arguably the best and he played for the best team, America's Team. How Bout them COWBOYS.

KingK7 · 10-29-2002, 04:38 PM

Damn, nice sig...

Pornwolf · 10-29-2002, 04:40 PM

Emmitt who?

chass · 10-29-2002, 07:34 PM

The best running back? Who The Hell OWNS the total yards rushing RIGHT NOW? Is it Jim Brown, OJ, Payton, or whoever? NOO..EMMITT SMITH has the rushing crown! He owns the title for the most yards...so that means EMMITT is the best running back EVER! Regardless of whoever thinks the best back is....Is it EMMITT's fault he ran behind a big O'Line? Is it EMMITT's fault he had a Hall Of Fame QB and Receiver? NOOO. You make the most of what you got! And EMMITT did...that's why he has the MOST yards and is the BEST back ever! Period!

cosis · 10-29-2002, 08:00 PM

"5.2 yards per carry, never missed game, won the rushing title every year but one when he was in the league, there was a lot of contenders but if you have to select one, you have to pick Jim as the greatest running back in history."

- Bob Costas

cosis · 10-29-2002, 08:08 PM

Emmit had a super bowl winning offensive line for years, barry sanders had a piece of shit detroit lions offensive line to block for him and still kicked ass

Gman.357 · 10-29-2002, 11:57 PM

There's moves I've watched Barry do in highlight shows that I have never seen anyone since "sweetness" accomplish. Spin moves, jukes, breaking tackles and making the best of the best defensive players look like rookies. Most of Emmit's yardage came when he had 3 or more pro bowl players on the line blocking for him, and opening up holes the size of interstate highways for him to run through. Granted, he is a great legendary runningback, and deserves his acclaim, he just wasn't as talented as a few of the other greats.

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 12:47 AM

barry sanders is much better than smith. sanders is a guy that defenses pull their hair out over. for running backs he's just in a class all by himself.

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by theone
Well you have to take in to account championships. Jim Brown and some of the others mentioned never won a championship. Emmit has won 3 and would have had 4 if it wasn't for the miser Jerry Jones. The Cowboys may have had other weapons, Irving etc. but the bulk was carried by Emmit. He made big plays and scored when teams knew he would get the ball. He rushed for over 200 yards in the first half in a game against minnesota and would have gotten 500 that game if it weren't for an injury to his had. Emmit is arguably the best and he played for the best team, America's Team. How Bout them COWBOYS.

i'm sorry but you put a guy like barry sanders on that team and he would have more rings.

you think scott mitchell could help the cowgirls beat the niners? i don't think so.

eroswebmaster · 10-30-2002, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by theone
How Bout them COWBOYS.

Fuckin' A and the rest of you bitches are just jealous.

Is Emmit the best ever...no don't think so...but like the man said he holds the record now.

But for those who attribute it all to just being behind the offensive line the cowboys had that wasn't the only factor in this man getting his yardage.

Being from Texas and a cowboy's fan I've watched my fair share of Cowboy's games...and the simple fact is during those super bowl years I saw on many occassions Emmit break tackles not once during a run...but two...three...four times.

I've seen moves from Emmit that would make Payton cream his pants...and Sanders cry like a little girl.

Give the man credit where credit is due.

Once again is he the best in NFL history? No...maybe not...I couldn't care fucking less.

Is he one of the winningest? Hell fucking yeah and he made us Texas Bubba's proud.

Does he own the record? Yeah...and you haters can kiss my ass 2x's.

He brought that shit home to Texas where America's Team resides.

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 01:11 AM

sanders cry like a lil girl? smith didn't have a tenth of the moves sanders had. smith is one of the best backs ever, but thats just a stupid statement.

eroswebmaster · 10-30-2002, 01:13 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
sanders cry like a lil girl? smith didn't have a tenth of the moves sanders had. smith is one of the best backs ever, but thats just a stupid statement.

read my statement again jealous bitch

<IMX> · 10-30-2002, 01:14 AM

Haters?
Na, there is a big difference between owning a record and being the "greatest ever." I'm sure you would agree. That is like Terry Bradshaw is the greatest QB ever b/c he has 4 superbowl rings...

LOL it is a team sport right?

eroswebmaster · 10-30-2002, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by <IMX>
That is like Terry Bradshaw is the greatest QB ever

Now we all know that's Roger Staubach

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 01:27 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

read my statement again jealous bitch

jealous of what? any idiot can tell you sanders had more moves than any running back ever.

jealous of the cowgirls? sorry my team has won more super bowls. i count, ya 5.

eroswebmaster · 10-30-2002, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

sorry my team has won more super bowls. i count, ya 5.

LOL and what imaginary team is that?

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

LOL and what imaginary team is that?

niners...

Thumbelina · 10-30-2002, 11:46 AM

A healthy Gayle Sayers.........with a long career.

FATPad · 10-30-2002, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

jealous of the cowgirls? sorry my team has won more super bowls. i count, ya 5.

Considering the Cowboys have won 5 I don't think you have more.

bushwacker · 10-30-2002, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by Thumbelina
A healthy Gayle Sayers.........with a long career.

a healthy Bo Jackson...with a long career

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Considering the Cowboys have won 5 I don't think you have more.

ya but i don't care what happened before i could remember.

dgdesigns · 10-30-2002, 12:02 PM

Barry Sanders started every run as a 5 yard loss. Emmitt started every run as a 3 yard gain. Barry still has a better yards per carry average than everyone but Jim Brown.

Man oh man, Sanders behind Larry Allen and company...that would have been something!

DG

GrimShawn · 10-30-2002, 12:07 PM

It's a pretty simple answer to this question. Emmitt is no where near the top.

All of the top backs played for shit teams most of there career. Name a QB and top WR for Payton in his first 5 seasons, or for Barry Sanders, or Jim Brown, or Gale Sayers. Most won't know it.

But Troy Aikmen and Michael Irvin are like house hold names. Shit a good amount of people can name half the starters on the old Cowboys Offensive Line.

FATPad · 10-30-2002, 12:07 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

ya but i don't care what happened before i could remember.

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

any idiot can tell you sanders had more moves than any running back ever.

So you do know about and care about what happened before you can remember?

GrimShawn · 10-30-2002, 12:11 PM

On and my vote goes to Payton with Sanders close second!

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad

So you do know about and care about what happened before you can remember?

i hate people who bring up things like, o my team won 10 championships in the 40's and 50's.

if you never celebrated a championship that your team won, it doesn't matter much now does it?

FATPad · 10-30-2002, 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

sorry my team has won more super bowls. i count, ya 5.

Hate whatever you want. Ignoring the truth doesn't really make your strange math any more true, except in your own little world.

Whatever floats your boat though.

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
Hate whatever you want. Ignoring the truth doesn't really make your strange math any more true, except in your own little world.

Whatever floats your boat though.

again if you haven't celebrated your teams wins when they happened it doesn't count for much now does it?

what am i hating? a super bowl win in the 60's or 70's doesn't really have much meaning to a cowboys fan who's in their mid 20's.

FATPad · 10-30-2002, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

again if you haven't celebrated your teams wins when they happened it doesn't count for much now does it?

what am i hating? a super bowl win in the 60's or 70's doesn't really have much meaning to a cowboys fan who's in their mid 20's.

That's nice.

Like I said, hate what you want.

Your team still hasn't won more super bowls than the Cowboys which is what you originally said, and which is all I responded to.

*shrugs*

FlyingIguana · 10-30-2002, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by FATPad
That's nice.

Like I said, hate what you want.

Your team still hasn't won more super bowls than the Cowboys which is what you originally said, and which is all I responded to.

*shrugs*

what am i hating? i don't remember the cowboys winning 5 super bowls. its nice that they have but that was a while ago. its like the smart guys who bring up notre dame's wins from like 50 years ago. doesn't matter much to you if you weren't around.

eroswebmaster · 10-30-2002, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana

what am i hating? i don't remember the cowboys winning 5 super bowls. its nice that they have but that was a while ago. its like the smart guys who bring up notre dame's wins from like 50 years ago. doesn't matter much to you if you weren't around.

No it just goes to show you don't know shit about what you're talking about.

Cowboys and Niners (who have my respect) are tied for most wins...cowboys however have been to the superbowl more than any other team.

You originally stated your team had more wins than the cowboys...you're full of shit and can't back it up so therefore you lose this round.

Now when you hit 36 like I am...and some kid in his 20's doesn't give the niners their due because he wasn't around to see it...does that make their wins any less real?

EDITED TO ADD:
and being 36 I've been around for every single superbowl...watched the first one against the Dolphins with my dad when I was 6.

bushwacker · 10-30-2002, 01:49 PM

EDITED TO ADD:
and being 36 I've been around for every single superbowl...watched the first one against the Dolphins with my dad when I was 6. [/B][/QUOTE]

I don't think the dolphins played in the first superbowl.

eroswebmaster · 10-30-2002, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by bushwacker

I don't think the dolphins played in the first superbowl.

ROFuckingL dipshit...talking about the first superbowl the Cowboys played in...it was 1972 against the Dolphins...Cowboys won.

Also try not just reading a snippet of the post...read it in it's entirety so you can fully understand what's going on.

10-29-2002, 12:20 PM	#1
theone Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: socal Posts: 145	Emmit Smith the Greatest? My congrats to Emmit. He is a class act and deserves the rushing title. But there has been debate on is he the greatest rusher of all time? After seeing his past runs on ESPN last night, I might have to say yes. __________________ Direct Navigation Keywords 174448136

10-29-2002, 12:23 PM	#2
nocostporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,228	even though he's a dick,Jim Brown...he retired at 30,Emmitt wouldnt have any records if Jim played til his age __________________ CashTheChecks.com -coming soon- "Exclusive sites for Exclusive Webmasters" ICQ-119966868,add me first don't message

10-29-2002, 01:59 PM	#9
howard Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: phila Posts: 1,827	WAY OVERARTED.. The only thing he ever did well was run behind a lot of big fat people. I'll give him 1 thing and that is he's durable. He was a durable above average back who has way overstayed his worth. He should have retired 5 years ago. I would rather have: Bo Jackson(healthy) Walter Payton Earl Dickerson Barry sanders Thurman Thomas Rager Craig Marcus Allen Franco Harris Ricky Williams Tony Dorsett Terrel Davis ( healthy) Earl Cambell Wilbert Montgomery Chuck Muncie Billy Simms (many, many more) __________________ perkissmedia.com [email protected] 318621803 perkymon993 Skype

10-29-2002, 02:05 PM	#10
Kris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 940	they were talking about this on sportscenter this morning and brought up an interesting point. the guy was talking about how you tend to say someone you watched when you were 18-35 is the best ever. as for emmitt being it, he even said he didn't think so. __________________ I am the walrus.

10-29-2002, 02:56 PM	#11
overflow Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 122	Walter Payton I rest my case. __________________ "LET ME SHOOT IT"

10-29-2002, 12:30 PM	#3
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	Payton, Sanders and Brown were all better than Smith and Earl Campbell might have been too if his legs had held up.. you gotta remember that Smith had an excellent offensive line, a good team and a great quarterback for most of his career. The fact that the Cowboys had multiple offensive threats made it much easier for him to gain yards than it was for Payton. Bears opponents KNEW Payton was coming every time he touched the ball. Cowboys opponents had to cover the air attack AND the ground attack. Not to say Smith isn't good, he's just not as good as Sweetness

10-29-2002, 01:07 PM	#6
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	Jim Brown or Barry Sanders crush Emmit, Sanders was fun as hell to watch, I can't believe he retired so early

10-29-2002, 01:25 PM	#7
BradShaw Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: KB's trailer Posts: 7,840	Everything in life is based on #'s. He has the most yard, most TD's, and most rings.

10-29-2002, 01:41 PM	#8
GregP Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 539	Definately in the top 3

10-29-2002, 04:09 PM	#13
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	I have to put a premium on these four: Barry Sanders Walter Payton Jim Brown Erick Dickerson Awesome stats, and avg yard per carry. E. Smith just doesn't have the avg yard per carry stat even close... Who knows what the history book would be like if each of these guys (excpetion of Payton) played day in day out...nevermind the luck of playing behind one of the greatest O-lines ever. Sorry I wouldn't include backs like Terrel Davis. No way TD was going to contiune that pace, given the way he ran and the hits he took on a weekly basis. Injury was envitable. Barry on the other hand...could have put 2 more 2k seasons together. __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

10-29-2002, 04:15 PM	#14
FATPad Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 6,693	Sorry. Part of being the best ever is being durable. Emmit was far from the best in any single season. He was however, extremely durable, extremely tough, extremely dependable, he knew the role on his team, he was a damn good running back, a damn good blocker, and most importantly, he knew how to win. I'll take him before anyone except maybe Barry Sanders. __________________ <a href="http://www.adultcontent.co.uk">Adult Content UK - Great British Content</a>

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Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Best pure runner: Barry Sanders Best Running back: Jim Brown

10-29-2002, 04:21 PM	#16
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	You guys are too young, hell even I'm too young. From everything I know, and my Dad watched all Cleveland Browns games, Jim Brown was in a league by himself. He was just unstoppable, he ran over people. He also did the coolest thing and just walked away from the game at the height of his career at 30 or 31. Payton comes next. He played on many HORRIBLE Bears teams and still amassed great yardage and excelled. Emmit is a great durable back, but not in Brown's or Payton's class as a pure talent. Emmit for most of his glory days was on a star studded offense. Emmit deserves his props as one of the greatest but can't be included in any debate over who's the greatest of all time. Gale Sayers is the one people think could have been the best of them all but his career was too short. Brown and Payton.........then the rest. Not sure why O.J. Simpson never ranks higher, i grew up watching him and you just don't see anybody these days do what OJ did, putting up 250 yard days . And this doesn't have to do with OJ's new status as psychopath and double murderer.......he wasn't regarded as Brown's equal even before. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

10-29-2002, 04:32 PM	#17
<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	Durability? Dude..same goes for Sanders, Brown, Payton, and Dickerson. All very durable backs. Injury didn't take those guys off the field, they took themselves out. As far as being a leader, it helps to have a good team. In the NFL RBs aren't really the de facto leaders, that has to be your QB. I can't even name the QBs Sanders, Brown and Dickerson had for the majority of their years. In fact, e. smith has been rotating in and out for the past two years, holding on trying to surpass this record ... maybe he will finally retire now. __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

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KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	Damn, nice sig...

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Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Emmitt who? __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

10-29-2002, 07:34 PM	#21
chass Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Alamo City Posts: 498	The best running back? Who The Hell OWNS the total yards rushing RIGHT NOW? Is it Jim Brown, OJ, Payton, or whoever? NOO..EMMITT SMITH has the rushing crown! He owns the title for the most yards...so that means EMMITT is the best running back EVER! Regardless of whoever thinks the best back is....Is it EMMITT's fault he ran behind a big O'Line? Is it EMMITT's fault he had a Hall Of Fame QB and Receiver? NOOO. You make the most of what you got! And EMMITT did...that's why he has the MOST yards and is the BEST back ever! Period!

10-29-2002, 08:00 PM	#22
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	"5.2 yards per carry, never missed game, won the rushing title every year but one when he was in the league, there was a lot of contenders but if you have to select one, you have to pick Jim as the greatest running back in history." - Bob Costas

10-29-2002, 08:08 PM	#23
cosis Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Beach Posts: 5,281	Emmit had a super bowl winning offensive line for years, barry sanders had a piece of shit detroit lions offensive line to block for him and still kicked ass

10-29-2002, 11:57 PM	#24
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	There's moves I've watched Barry do in highlight shows that I have never seen anyone since "sweetness" accomplish. Spin moves, jukes, breaking tackles and making the best of the best defensive players look like rookies. Most of Emmit's yardage came when he had 3 or more pro bowl players on the line blocking for him, and opening up holes the size of interstate highways for him to run through. Granted, he is a great legendary runningback, and deserves his acclaim, he just wasn't as talented as a few of the other greats.

10-30-2002, 12:47 AM	#25
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	barry sanders is much better than smith. sanders is a guy that defenses pull their hair out over. for running backs he's just in a class all by himself.

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FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	sanders cry like a lil girl? smith didn't have a tenth of the moves sanders had. smith is one of the best backs ever, but thats just a stupid statement.

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<IMX> Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,728	Haters? Na, there is a big difference between owning a record and being the "greatest ever." I'm sure you would agree. That is like Terry Bradshaw is the greatest QB ever b/c he has 4 superbowl rings... LOL it is a team sport right? __________________ $$$ Check out NICHE PAY the leader of Micro Niche Sites! They offer $1 Trials! $$$ $$$ Check out 10 FREE TRIAL SALES equals 1 FREE LAP TOP ! $$$

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Thumbelina Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 675	A healthy Gayle Sayers.........with a long career. __________________ <a href="http://www.bimbolinks.com"><img src="http://www.12circle.com/banners/bimbo_120x60.jpg"border="0"></a><BR>

10-30-2002, 12:02 PM	#39
dgdesigns Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 174	Barry Sanders started every run as a 5 yard loss. Emmitt started every run as a 3 yard gain. Barry still has a better yards per carry average than everyone but Jim Brown. Man oh man, Sanders behind Larry Allen and company...that would have been something! DG

10-30-2002, 12:07 PM	#40
GrimShawn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: BONEPRONE MANSION serving drinks! Posts: 8,120	It's a pretty simple answer to this question. Emmitt is no where near the top. All of the top backs played for shit teams most of there career. Name a QB and top WR for Payton in his first 5 seasons, or for Barry Sanders, or Jim Brown, or Gale Sayers. Most won't know it. But Troy Aikmen and Michael Irvin are like house hold names. Shit a good amount of people can name half the starters on the old Cowboys Offensive Line.

10-30-2002, 12:11 PM	#42
GrimShawn Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: BONEPRONE MANSION serving drinks! Posts: 8,120	On and my vote goes to Payton with Sanders close second!

10-30-2002, 01:49 PM	#49
bushwacker Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: so. fla. Posts: 2,817	EDITED TO ADD: and being 36 I've been around for every single superbowl...watched the first one against the Dolphins with my dad when I was 6. [/B][/QUOTE] I don't think the dolphins played in the first superbowl.