Offended me? About the members statement? Hahaha, come on - I have several sites with 300-800 members - what is to be pissed about?

It's just funny because clearly you have no idea what I do, what I own, or anything at all, you really aren't an insider of anything. So I just simply call it how it is, you are an idiot.


Anyway, again, the point of the post was to prove that you are an idiot, acting like you know a subjects you have clearly never dealt in, proving I'm probably the real idiot for arguing with a board whore.

TheDoc are you going to be in Atlanta?

I wouldn't piss in a cup and send it to that coked up show.



Anyway, no sir - I quit doing shows a bit back. I will fly in for a dinner now and then, otherwise I don't hang around the shows anymore.

OK, just wondering. :)

This was about evilgeniuscash you just sold since i saw on boards you were the owner. Other then that i have no intention to look up more of your data and waste my time since it serves no purpose. Feel free to say you delt with more numbers on that program.

Since your inside knowledge is so limited, I will assist you.

EGC was program #4, it's a 6 year old program, I have ran paysites for about 10 years of the last 11, I still own several sites and have stakes in several programs.

EGC was a small program - I have posted this and so has Kristin. We hid nothing. I have shared my stats on GFY and Webmasters have shared stats. So you aren't exposing anything that I just didn't tell people in the open. However - it's odd how it could support a staff of 5, trade shows, booths, parties, make the top earning lists for rabbit, gg&j, and others.. it's pure amazing I even made it out alive!

Now you can say you have some real insider knowledge, it came straight from me - so nobody is going to give you the wrong story.



So this was all about Captcha anyway, and I said strongbox. So back to that, so you don't think EGC had enough members, what about DukeDollars or MayorsMoney? Oh, prob going to say I didn't do support, you are correct - but I did and do monitor the support emails. Both run my custom changes to strongbox, along with ... oh just a couple of others.

So again, your idea on captcha is just wrong. Members know what it is. From free online email accounts, member forums, social sites, and even basic contact forums - captcha is a major thing on the Internet now and as long as the image isn't hard to read - it causes less issues than any other single support complaint.

You did not follow correctly.

Captcha was added in relation to cross-sales as something that is in the business for years, and still gives people problems. All in relation that surfers are not that smart and can't read that well as was initially put.

Other things you rambled is your broken ego (which shouldn't be as you have said here you are successfull enough), which does now warrant a reply.

You can keep bringing my program up into this if you like. I ignored your first statement when you brought it up, I just slammed you for being an idiot for posting bullshit xsale information. I then confronted you the second time you posted your insider info. I'm also not really sure why my ego would be broken. Is this your method of attacking me when you have no other leg to stand on? It's kinda lame.



Anyway, it's fun to see an idiot try to twist what they said into fact. Like you stated "My estimates are that 30%" - Difference between me, steve and you - we didn't give an estimate, we gave factual numbers that can be backed up and proven.

Then you said "If you disagree, i can't give you my real numbers/evidence on this, but you can easilly verify this by putting a captcha on the login page for test,"

Of course you can't give real numbers or evidence, and I did disagree, see I have years of experience, knowledge, and testing to back it up, posted several times - even from other programs with permission. You, have being a gfy insider with the wrong info, you should try being a Webmaster - you might actually learn something.

Now if you actually made an analogy on xsales vs captcha, the wow... Do I need to say what I already think again? Naaa...

When you buy a domain at godaddy they show their upsells clearly in every page. Not 5 paragraphs below the "Buy Now" button. Big difference

Lol, you turned into a troll. If you think you slammed anyone other then yourself, ok. Keep slamming.

Either this is the first time I saw this thread or forgot about it entirely but I have to say I am very impressed. Nice work freeones.

Yeah no kidding... you gotta actually spend time to find the "Proceed to Checkout" button there is so much upsell crap to get through! :2 cents:

Good job, thanks!

Very Nice, and thanks for the flawless free traffic! ;)

I totally agree with what he said.:thumbsup

Nice move, bit simply informing surfers about pre checked cross sales is not enough since unchecking them often means nothing - credit cards still get billed no matter what. People who're doing that are not in porn business, they're in credit card fraud business and simply do not belong to our community. Denying them traffic is the only way to go, if we do not want authorities or even worse VISA to get involved.

silly pr move

if you really cared you would remove those sites all together

but you don't, see sig