It does cost roughly $300/month for the average Canadian. If you make $30,000/year, between $3000 and $5000 in taxes will be health care related depending on your province. If you average it out at $4000/year, that's $40,000 over 10 years and $200,000 over 50 years(not including inflation). This is only for a citizen making 30k/year, the average salary is much higher.

The problem with the health care system in either country is not the government, it's the people. Neither system is financially equipped to handle the load. The only way to resolve the health care issue in either country are for it's citizens to change their habits. Healthy eating and fitness will always be cheaper than health care.

http://www.publicbroadcasting.ca/upl...ory-757951.jpg

This is one of the films that started this discussion a few months ago. "Young People Fucking"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0913445/

Should that film be approved for funding by the film board?

It is to TeleFilm Canada to decide. When refused, the producers can go in appeal ... I have been dealing wit hthem and the SODICC from 1979 till 1995 ... so I know how it works.

If the film has no merit or no commercial value, it will not get produced..

Seems this one had certain values, being shown in many Festivals:

Canada 6 September 2007 (Toronto International Film Festival) (premiere)
Canada 5 October 2007 (Vancouver International Film Festival)
Germany 8 February 2008 (European Film Market)
USA 31 May 2008 (Seattle International Film Festival)


You probably are the type of person that would have not funded Andy Wharhol ....

You want that, vote for Harper... it is a clear cut choice :2 cents:

It's a comedy and a really good one at that.

They're just offended at the title, it's no more offensive than American Pie.

Yeah, because a site that tries to make such a ridiculous and irrelevant implication with a photo like that must be really credible. :error

Besides, that is still not really censorship. They are not banning the film they are just saying "we don't want to pay for it, pay for it yourself."

If it's a commercial film it should not be funded by the government. End of story.

It is still a crown corporation which receives their money from the federal government. The feds have the right to change anything within the dept of Canadian Heritage. It sounds like this is more personal and could directly affect you. This isn't an issue citizens will care about in an election. I have no issues with the gov funding small businesses, films and other artists as long as there is a strong check and balance.

I knew you were not too smart, but I never thought you were that dumb :2 cents:

BTW, the actress won best supporting actress in Vancouver for her role...

As for check and balance, that is where Telefilm Canada comes into play . The head of telefilm Canada is appointed by the government ( most of the time a political appointment ) but the board of review is composed of many people from various fields of the Canadian Motion Picture business ( actors, producers, exhibitors, TV, etc ...).


But you are right.... just hope that if ever you are sick, it is not a political appointee that decides of the treatment instead of a doctor.

AS for bridges, fuck the engineers ... let a minister decide ..... :helpme

I'll be voting for Harper, kthnxbi...

As if you're even qualified to judge....:321GFY

Canadians are too used to fucking hand-outs from the government.

Do you think that the government - aka taxpayers - should fund every piece of shit film by every piece of shit filmaker that comes along with their hand out looking for money? Do you honestly think there should be an endless supply of money for a bunch of mostly worthless films that 99% of the population will never see?

I just came across this in an anti-Harper facebook group... I haven't had a chance to go through it all yet.

In his speech at the Democratic convention Barack Obama laid out plainly the choices before Americans, pointing out the failure of George Bush neo-con policies on almost every front. Canadians will soon have a similar choice to make. Stephen Harper is, perhaps more than Bush himself, a George Bush style neo-conservative. Harper's policies are essentially the same as those of George Bush even when those policies benefit the US and harm Canada.

Since taking over as Prime Minister Stephen Harper has waged a non-stop attack on Canada and everything Canadians value. He has repeatedly assaulted Canada's natural environment

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/01/20/HardOnNature/

right down to allowing Canadian lakes to be used as toxic dump sites at no cost to polluters.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/...ned-lakes.html

Although he promised open accountable government, Harper has lead one of the most secretive, authoritarian governments in Canadian history.

http://www.uofaweb.ualberta.ca/ccs/n...94&nav01=35499

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/po...ca973ca&k=7741

http://www.harperindex.ca/ViewArticle.cfm?Ref=00147

And while he was elected in part due to corruption on the part of the Liberals, Harper has lead one of the most deeply corrupt governments in recent memory.

From the in-out scheme
http://www.westislandchronicle.com/a...ck-Scheme.html

to the Cadman affair
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/na...7-f440a95f5138

and beyond
http://www.ndp.ca/scandalsheet

He has waged a relentless assault on the arts from attempts to kill the Canadian film industry
http://www.millsworks.net/blog/2008/...ip-bill-grows/

To a copyright bill that is good for big media companies but bad for artists and that would make most Canadians into criminals
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...copyright.html

to his rejection of a Heritage Committee recommendation that would have strengthened and improved the CBC
http://www.insidethecbc.com/fed-govt...ort-on-the-cbc

and most recently his cuts to export subsidies for the arts
http://viewoncanadianart.com/2008/08...urn-continues/

He has been no friend to Canadian cities
http://thetyee.ca/News/2007/01/25/Cities/

http://www.thestar.com/article/275075

He scrapped a child care plan years in the making and replaced it with a much weaker, watered down credit

http://thetyee.ca/Views/2006/05/05/MommyWars/

He has done his best to erode women's rights
http://www.straight.com/article/women-kick-harpers-ass

Including cutting off funding to groups that lobby for womens rights
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/...y-funding.html

and closing "Status of Women" offices
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2006/...tus-women.html

Harper almost, at one point, had a backbone - placing the U.S. and Israel on a 'Torture Watch List' - which is a list of countries where prisoners risk being tortured.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/01/18/6454/

But Harper's spine quickly gave way when the US and Israel were upset, though they presented no counter evidence.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/946065.html

He has bungled the economy (one of the few areas the Tories are supposed to be good at)
http://www.thestar.com/News/article/293735

There have also been cuts to adult literacy, youth employment and internship programs, Indian Affairs, technology development, citizenship and immigration, apparel and textiles, workplace skills training, the National Crime Prevention Centre, Social Development Partnership Programs, the mountain pine beetle program, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, the Canadian Volunteerism Initiative, Health Canada's policy research, the elimination of the Canadian Identity Program, cuts to the RCMP impaired driving program, the Museums Assistance Program, the Closing of Commercial Heritage Property Incentive Fund run by Parks Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/pa...cuts-list.html

and despite cuts to almost everything Canadians care about, may soon take us back into deficits
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew..._name=&no_ads=

He reneged on his promise not to tax income trusts, costing many small investors - including retirees small fortunes, because Harper had promised not to tax these trusts many were buying them until days before his announcement.
http://www.caiti.info/lies.php

Finally he has done considerable damage to Canada's reputation abroad. From refusing to attend the world aids conference
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_2709.aspx

to insulting the Chinese people (and Canadian athletes) by his absence from the opening ceremonies
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/na...9-34817950dcf3

His administration has interfered in foreign elections by leaking private information
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home

and left classified documents with girlfriends
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimesc...0-ddef70580cb5

They have also damaged Canada's reputation as a refuge from wars and war crimes by deporting asylum seekers.
http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/200...1/18528416.php

And allowed big business to rewrite immigration policy

http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article/2...ainst-bill-c50

In short Stephen Harper's government has been inept, corrupt, incompetent, immoral and staunchly anti-Canadian on almost every important issue. So, like the Americans, Canadians have a choice to make between the failed policies of the Bush Administration (echoed by Harper) and a reversal of that course.

Stephen Harper and his Tories have never enjoyed more than about 35% support in Canada, yet they manage to cling to power. If they truly care about Canada it is time for the Liberal Party and the New Democratic Party to put aside their differences, focus on areas of common ground and at least temporarily come together in Coalition.

If the next election results in anything less than a majority parliament, Stephen Dion, Jack Layton and their parties should make it clear to Stephen Harper and the Governor General that they will act in concert and prevent the Harper Neo-Con agenda from going any further, that they can and will form a coalition Government and will block any further legislation by Stephen Harper until given a chance to do so.

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It is also worth noting that in 2006 the Conservatives won 8 Ridings by less than 1%, 15 Ridings by between 1 and 5% and 16 Ridings by between 5 - 10% for a total of 39 Ridings out of 124 that they won, where the margin of victory was 10% or less. Without these ridings the Conservatives would have had only 85 seats.

http://www.cbc.ca/canadavotes/analys...ngridings.html