Usatoday Poll: Mccain Takes 10-point Lead Over Obama In Likely Voters... - GoFuckYourself.com

spunkmaster · 09-07-2008, 07:38 PM

Holy shit it's true !
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...-07-poll_N.htm

Brujah · 09-07-2008, 07:41 PM

USA Today Poll: McCain leads Democrat Barack Obama by 50%-46% among registered voters.

Yay Palin! Woo!

notoldschool · 09-07-2008, 07:41 PM

Dont they only poll small groups of past voters?

IllTestYourGirls · 09-07-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Dont they only poll small groups of past voters?

Ya we heard that line when people were saying Ron Paul would do great. And you know me I am a Ron Paul supporter. Most polls are of small groups of past voters.

cykoe6 · 09-07-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Dont they only poll small groups of past voters?

Don't you usually post unsourced and unsupported allegations intending to impugn any source which provides evidence contrary to your positions?

spunkmaster · 09-07-2008, 07:47 PM

In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples.

Among the findings:

• Before the convention, Republicans by 47%-39% were less enthusiastic than usual about voting. Now, they are more enthusiastic by 60%-24%, a sweeping change that narrows a key Democratic advantage. Democrats report being more enthusiastic by 67%-19%.

• Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a national unknown before McCain chose her for the ticket 10 days ago, draws a strong reaction from voters on both sides. Now, 29% say she makes them more likely to vote for McCain, 21% less likely.

Obama's choice of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as running mate made 14% more likely to vote for the Democrat, 7% less likely.

• McCain's acceptance speech Thursday received lower ratings than the one Obama gave a week earlier: 15% called McCain's speech "excellent" compared with 35% for Obama.

davidd · 09-07-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Ya we heard that line when people were saying Ron Paul would do great. And you know me I am a Ron Paul supporter. Most polls are of small groups of past voters.

That was a very painful lesson on polling for me also.

The polling turned out to be almost 100% accurate... unfortunately.

IllTestYourGirls · 09-07-2008, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by davidd

That was a very painful lesson on polling for me also.

The polling turned out to be almost 100% accurate... unfortunately.

Not in the area I canvased for Paul. We got around and over 25%

But ya over all the polls were dead on

notoldschool · 09-07-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

Don't you usually post unsourced and unsupported allegations intending to impugn any source which provides evidence contrary to your positions?

No, actually i would love for you to find just one post I amde with unsupported allegations. Just one you fucking mccain troll. You wont find one thread I made with anything of the sort so stfu.

cykoe6 · 09-07-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

No, actually i would love for you to find just one post I amde with unsupported allegations. Just one you fucking mccain troll. You wont find one thread I made with anything of the sort so stfu.

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Dont they only poll small groups of past voters?

There you go. There is no source and no support for the allegation above. Are you really as stupid as you act on GFY?

marketsmart · 09-07-2008, 08:12 PM

polls dont mean much until after the debates... i think this race is going to be very close..

if obama can get all the new voters out, he will win... if not, he will lose...

After Shock Media · 09-07-2008, 08:15 PM

There is a very damn good reason they are keeping a ball gag on the hockey mom.
I would watch those numbers a bit once she has to appear in front of the press without everyone sticking to a script.

IllTestYourGirls · 09-07-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

polls dont mean much until after the debates... i think this race is going to be very close..

if obama can get all the new voters out, he will win... if not, he will lose...

History shows new votes dont come out. We shall see if history is proven wrong, sometimes it is.

Young · 09-07-2008, 08:15 PM

Likely voter polls are bullshit.

cykoe6 · 09-07-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

No, actually i would love for you to find just one post I amde with unsupported allegations. Just one you fucking mccain troll. You wont find one thread I made with anything of the sort so stfu.

How about here where you make a similar unsourced and unsupported allegation regarding a Rasmussen poll that displeases you?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...0#post14720090

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

They only poll old republicans that allready voted. Um people who will make the difference in this election are not polled. Nice try though.

Are you seeing a pattern develop?

marketsmart · 09-07-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

History shows new votes dont come out. We shall see if history is proven wrong, sometimes it is.

i think you will see a lot of new black voters...

WarChild · 09-07-2008, 08:20 PM

I guess they didn't poll the GFY talking heads. Around here we have great brains who have all but decreed that Obama is going to win this election hands down.

If only Simonsynster, NotOldSchool, Pussyserver and Tony404 could reach a larger audience! Think of the "change" they could bring!

It's almost like this place isn't representative of the voting public or something.

slapass · 09-07-2008, 08:22 PM

Did you read this part -

"However, in an analysis of the impact of political conventions since 1960, Sabato concluded that post-convention polls signal the election's outcome only about half the time. "You could flip a coin and be about as predictive," he says. "It is really surprising how quickly convention memories fade.""

WarChild · 09-07-2008, 08:23 PM

What the Democrats should really focus on more is Sarah Palin. What else can you dig up or make up about the nice looking hockey mom? Republican party top brass must be laughing their asses off as the nation continues to talk about Sarah palin and not Obama.

I swear you idiots just want to give this election away. Stop helping, because you aren't.

davidd · 09-07-2008, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild

I guess they didn't poll the GFY talking heads. Around here we have great brains who have all but decreed that Obama is going to win this election hands down.

If only Simonsynster, NotOldSchool, Pussyserver and Tony404 could reach a larger audience! Think of the "change" they could bring!

It's almost like this place isn't representative of the voting public or something.

It is for this very reason that the InTrade numbers can not be sourced as indicative of the voting public. It is more a gauge of what people want the "internets".

I will say that taking the opposite of what tony404 predicts has been an almost 100% winner every time. This year will be no different.

davidd · 09-07-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Not in the area I canvased for Paul. We got around and over 25%

But ya over all the polls were dead on

Review the posts above this post and tell me if any of this sounds familiar.

"New voters" "Polls are wrong" "people with cell phones only are not polled" "They do not poll new registrations"

SoloGirlsContent · 09-07-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool

Dont they only poll small groups of past voters?

yep about 600 old white folks that still HAVE HOME PHONES..lol

SoloGirlsContent · 09-07-2008, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

i think you will see a lot of new black voters...

BIngo, negro

and the Hispanics

After Shock Media · 09-07-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by davidd

It is for this very reason that the InTrade numbers can not be sourced as indicative of the voting public. It is more a gauge of what people want the "internets".

Please explain intrades past accuracy record then.

SoloGirlsContent · 09-07-2008, 09:27 PM

but looks like the WHite men of America is trying everything they can to slow down NEW VOTERS..go figure

Nearly 600,000 Subject to Possible Caging in Ohio
http://www.truthout.org/article/near...le-caging-ohio

Warning for College Student Voters
http://insidehighered.com/news/2008/09/03/voting

tony286 · 09-07-2008, 09:32 PM

if he didnt get a bump after the convention.He would of had very serious problems.

Drake · 09-07-2008, 09:34 PM

The polling at this stage is historically 50/50 predictive. Yet the race has pretty much been 50/50 all along. So it's a complete coin-toss still.

Drake · 09-07-2008, 09:38 PM

If the polls indicate a trajectory that continues, obviously the race will be over. If it's a blip resulting from the RNC and Palin celebrity that wanes, who knows.

Some expect Obama to be so good in the debates. I have doubts. Who knows what the next 2 months will bring.

09-07-2008, 07:38 PM	#1
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09-07-2008, 07:41 PM	#2
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09-07-2008, 07:41 PM	#3
notoldschool Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,687	Dont they only poll small groups of past voters? __________________ No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture. -- Learned Hand http://www.bjpenn.com

09-07-2008, 07:47 PM	#6
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	In the new poll, taken Friday through Sunday, McCain leads Obama by 54%-44% among those seen as most likely to vote. The survey of 1,022 adults, including 959 registered voters, has a margin of error of +/— 3 points for both samples. Among the findings: • Before the convention, Republicans by 47%-39% were less enthusiastic than usual about voting. Now, they are more enthusiastic by 60%-24%, a sweeping change that narrows a key Democratic advantage. Democrats report being more enthusiastic by 67%-19%. • Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, a national unknown before McCain chose her for the ticket 10 days ago, draws a strong reaction from voters on both sides. Now, 29% say she makes them more likely to vote for McCain, 21% less likely. Obama's choice of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden as running mate made 14% more likely to vote for the Democrat, 7% less likely. • McCain's acceptance speech Thursday received lower ratings than the one Obama gave a week earlier: 15% called McCain's speech "excellent" compared with 35% for Obama. __________________

09-07-2008, 08:15 PM	#12
After Shock Media It's coming look busy Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn". Posts: 35,299	There is a very damn good reason they are keeping a ball gag on the hockey mom. I would watch those numbers a bit once she has to appear in front of the press without everyone sticking to a script. __________________ [email protected] ICQ:135982156 AIM: Aftershockmed1a MSN: [email protected]

09-07-2008, 08:12 PM	#11
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	polls dont mean much until after the debates... i think this race is going to be very close.. if obama can get all the new voters out, he will win... if not, he will lose...

09-07-2008, 08:15 PM	#14
Young Bland for life Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 10,468	Likely voter polls are bullshit. __________________ ★★★

09-07-2008, 08:20 PM	#17
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	I guess they didn't poll the GFY talking heads. Around here we have great brains who have all but decreed that Obama is going to win this election hands down. If only Simonsynster, NotOldSchool, Pussyserver and Tony404 could reach a larger audience! Think of the "change" they could bring! It's almost like this place isn't representative of the voting public or something. __________________ . Last edited by WarChild; 09-07-2008 at 08:21 PM..

09-07-2008, 08:22 PM	#18
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Did you read this part - "However, in an analysis of the impact of political conventions since 1960, Sabato concluded that post-convention polls signal the election's outcome only about half the time. "You could flip a coin and be about as predictive," he says. "It is really surprising how quickly convention memories fade.""

09-07-2008, 08:23 PM	#19
WarChild Let slip the dogs of war. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bermuda Posts: 17,263	What the Democrats should really focus on more is Sarah Palin. What else can you dig up or make up about the nice looking hockey mom? Republican party top brass must be laughing their asses off as the nation continues to talk about Sarah palin and not Obama. I swear you idiots just want to give this election away. Stop helping, because you aren't. __________________ .

09-07-2008, 09:27 PM	#25
SoloGirlsContent So Fucking Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Mother fuckin Earth Posts: 5,013	but looks like the WHite men of America is trying everything they can to slow down NEW VOTERS..go figure Nearly 600,000 Subject to Possible Caging in Ohio http://www.truthout.org/article/near...le-caging-ohio Warning for College Student Voters http://insidehighered.com/news/2008/09/03/voting

09-07-2008, 09:32 PM	#26
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	if he didnt get a bump after the convention.He would of had very serious problems.

09-07-2008, 09:34 PM	#27
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	The polling at this stage is historically 50/50 predictive. Yet the race has pretty much been 50/50 all along. So it's a complete coin-toss still.

09-07-2008, 09:38 PM	#28
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	If the polls indicate a trajectory that continues, obviously the race will be over. If it's a blip resulting from the RNC and Palin celebrity that wanes, who knows. Some expect Obama to be so good in the debates. I have doubts. Who knows what the next 2 months will bring.