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stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721654)
He doesnt speak for the masses and its obvious he is reading a script. I wouldnt doubt he was just an actor.

A hired actor that needs to have a script to 'read' off of. Ya that rings true....

dav3 09-07-2008 07:42 PM


mikeyddddd 09-07-2008 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot (Post 14721585)
Yeah.

Sorry he joined a military known for sticking it's nose in other countries affairs?

Sorry he blindly followed orders and was a part of an illegal war waged on lies and got hurt in the process?

Sorry that he's too stupid to realize that everything he spoke of in the video is irrelevant if we shouldn't have invaded Iraq in the first place?

Sorry that he has to live with the fact that he was a part of or complicit in the deaths of thousands of Iraqis, again based on 100% lies from the Bush admin?

Sorry that not everyone will honor someone stupid enough to do all of the above then take up for the idiocy because he's so patriotic?

What exactly should he be honored for?

He should be honored for the sacrifices he made while serving in our military. He has earned the right to state his opinions and for your right to state yours as well.

If I were in his position I would be mad as hell at the Bush administration and expressed a different opinion. But, he has chosen to express himself in this way.

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14721563)
Now maybe he can make another video asking what the fuck happened to the supplies, the armor, and the general support of turning soldiers into peace keepers. I think that may really concern him. You know that shit most people would call planning and properly equipping everyone from day one.

That's what I would have done.

I don't know how those in charge of the war can live with themselves knowing that they lied about the reasons for the war and did not properly equip and prepare those they were commanding nor did they concern themselves with their care and well-being after their service was completed.

Then they denigrate the character and ridicule the patriotism of anyone who questions their war and how it was managed? They are the unpatriotic ones who have done disservice to the country. They should be ashamed of themselves and their behavior.

(Full Disclosure: I served in the military in a non-combat support position during peacetime.)

notoldschool 09-07-2008 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721662)
Please keep pushing for Obama. PLEASE cause its people like you that will cause the shift away from him.

Btw I find it HYSTERICAL that you quoted me talking about a strawman argument, and then using another strawman argument.

LOL i doubt it. Because you actually beleive that anyone on this board will be swayed by one of our posts is proof enough to discredit anything you say. Like i said, dont speak about shit you dont know about, and what actual soldeirs think, lets just say you are far from the type of person to step up the plate for your country. You are a sexually confused boy who needs his temporary peice of ass to stick up for him on adult messege boards. :thumbsup

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721687)
LOL i doubt it. Because you actually beleive that anyone on this board will be swayed by one of our posts is proof enough to discredit anything you say. Like i said, dont speak about shit you dont know about, and what actual soldeirs think, lets just say you are far from the type of person to step up the plate for your country. You are a sexually confused boy who needs his temporary peice of ass to stick up for him on adult messege boards. :thumbsup

Didn't we decide I was older than you? Im 35 far from a 'boy'. And you can think whatever you like, just like the same nutjobs like you thought in 2004. :2 cents:

IllTestYourGirls 09-07-2008 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721694)
Didn't we decide I was older than you? Im 35 far from a 'boy'. And you can think whatever you like, just like the same nutjobs like you thought in 2004. :2 cents:

Im going to have to agree with you here. not that he is a nut job. but that the dems think the same thing every year and lose. Obama should have won this thing going away but look how fucked he has made it. pick clinton as vp and he sweeps this fucking thing.

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 14721703)
Im going to have to agree with you here. not that he is a nut job. but that the dems think the same thing every year and lose. Obama should have won this thing going away but look how fucked he has made it. pick clinton as vp and he sweeps this fucking thing.

You had me till the Clinton part. lol Republicans would of came out in large droves to vote against her. With Biden it will be medium droves, but not large droves.

We'll see how it goes, but the dems are using the same exact stupid crap they always do. They have a Pres candidate that comes off as an elitist, and doesn't give people that "genuine" feeling. Comes off as fake and transparent. Kind of like eating a hollow marshmallow.

notoldschool 09-07-2008 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721694)
Didn't we decide I was older than you? Im 35 far from a 'boy'. And you can think whatever you like, just like the same nutjobs like you thought in 2004. :2 cents:

Lol, you are a little boy mentally. You dont get clearence to work in division S1 being a nutjob. Its people like yourself who believe that all soldiers must be Republican because you grew up watching Fox news makes your ignorance obvious. Are you saying that people that voted against Bush in 04 were nutjobs. LOL after what our country has become and the way our economy has went down the tubes you are obviously more the nutjob because you still think your lackeys are doing a good job. Just like your program your beliefs are out of gas.

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721712)
Lol, you are a little boy mentally. You dont get clearence to work in division S1 being a nutjob. Its people like yourself who believe that all soldiers must be Republican because you grew up watching Fox news makes your ignorance obvious. Are you saying that people that voted against Bush in 04 were nutjobs. LOL after what our country has become and the way our economy has went down the tubes you are obviously more the nutjob because you still think your lackeys are doing a good job. Just like your program your beliefs are out of gas.

I grew up watching Fox news? lmao I had 4 channels growing up. Abc, Nbc, cbs, and pbs Fox news started what year again? Pretty sure it was sometime around when I graduated in 1991.

Its your repeated bs about "Fox news" they are conspiring with the republicans. There is a war for oil. blah blah. Its awesome though that you run around here with your "I am a huge program owner, I been in dis biz for a million years" crap. You call me a pussy for not enlisting, but you are too much of a pussy to post on a message board your opinions without doing it from behind a veil of cowardice.

mikeyddddd 09-07-2008 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721711)
They have a Pres candidate that comes off as an elitist, and doesn't give people that "genuine" feeling. Comes off as fake and transparent. Kind of like eating a hollow marshmallow.

As opposed to the Republicans having a real actual elitist who only acts genuine.

mikeyddddd 09-07-2008 08:08 PM


stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 14721747)
As opposed to the Republicans having a real actual elitist who only acts genuine.

Who McCain? Ok so to gauge his level of elitism lets compare him to..



Kerry vs. McCain who is the elitist there?

notoldschool 09-07-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721736)
I grew up watching Fox news? lmao I had 4 channels growing up. Abc, Nbc, cbs, and pbs Fox news started what year again? Pretty sure it was sometime around when I graduated in 1991.

Its your repeated bs about "Fox news" they are conspiring with the republicans. There is a war for oil. blah blah. Its awesome though that you run around here with your "I am a huge program owner, I been in dis biz for a million years" crap. You call me a pussy for not enlisting, but you are too much of a pussy to post on a message board your opinions without doing it from behind a veil of cowardice.

Again lies poor from your lips. I never said I been in the biz a million years. I have had 3 paysites in the top 5000 since 03 and anyone of them bill more sales in a week than your whole program does in a whole year. If I were you I would be hiding quietly behind a very larg veil of cowardice because you posting anything about this industry is laughable.

Any real webmaster on this board can look at your shit and tell you know NOTHING about this industry. You have had those paysites how long? And you gotta be lucky to make a sale a day on any of them. Now any REAL webmaster will know this for truth and all the trolls who dont, well they dont really matter do they.

Young 09-07-2008 08:13 PM

More Republican noise.

Of course after you lose a fucking leg you're not going to want your lost leg to go to a wasted cause. Add to that the fact that he doesn't have to fucking go back...

Let's ask the soldiers under heavy fire daily if they think the Iraq war is a just war.

mikeyddddd 09-07-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721774)
Who McCain? Ok so to gauge his level of elitism lets compare him to..



Kerry vs. McCain who is the elitist there?

They're not running against one another.

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721775)
Again lies poor from your lips. I never said I been in the biz a million years. I have had 3 paysites in the top 5000 since 03 and anyone of them bill more sales in a week than your whole program does in a whole year. If I were you I would be hiding quietly behind a very larg veil of cowardice because you posting anything about this industry is laughable.

Any real webmaster on this board can look at your shit and tell you know NOTHING about this industry. You have had those paysites how long? And you gotta be lucky to make a sale a day on any of them. Now any REAL webmaster will know this for truth and all the trolls who dont, well they dont really matter do they.

Think what ya like. We have solid sales and they grow every month. So easy to say "I have 3 paysites in the top 5000 since 03" Without having to prove it. But again.. you are too much of a coward to risk someone thinking you are a cunt so you have to do it from behind a fake nick.

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyddddd (Post 14721779)
They're not running against one another.

That wasn't the point. Kerry is a known proven elitist, so compare McCain to him. Obama isn't as bad as Kerry, but he is much much closer to him than McCain is.

notoldschool 09-07-2008 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721783)
Think what ya like. We have solid sales and they grow every month. So easy to say "I have 3 paysites in the top 5000 since 03" Without having to prove it. But again.. you are too much of a coward to risk someone thinking you are a cunt so you have to do it from behind a fake nick.

LOL...hurts doesnt it. I actually feel bad for pointing out the obvious to you. I will leave you alone but you like to say shit about others when your clueless. I just feel you post your beliefs about how great Palin is going to be for this industry and our country when you dont have much to lose. Start making six figures with your proggie and then you might have a different point of view. If not well then enjoy mowing lawns in your next career, or maybe Ill let you clean my pool. You surely wont be profiting in this industry when Palin takes over.

Young 09-07-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721791)
Kerry is a known proven elitist

O'rly? :1orglaugh

notoldschool 09-07-2008 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721791)
That wasn't the point. Kerry is a known proven elitist, so compare McCain to him. Obama isn't as bad as Kerry, but he is much much closer to him than McCain is.

Everyone knows that Bush and Kerry are buddies.

Young 09-07-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721797)
You surely wont be profiting in this industry when Palin takes over.

I'm not sure that Palin is going to shut down the industry... I don't buy into the hysteria.

But she certainly won't do anything good for it either...only a neutral or bad outcome can result in a McCain/Palin Presidency.

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721797)
LOL...hurts doesnt it. I actually feel bad for pointing out the obvious to you. I will leave you alone but you like to say shit about others when your clueless. I just feel you post your beliefs about how great Palin is going to be for this industry and our country when you dont have much to lose. Start making six figures with your proggie and then you might have a different point of view. If not well then enjoy mowing lawns in your next career, or maybe Ill let you clean my pool. You surely wont be profiting in this industry when Palin takes over.

Time will tell wont it. You have joined the handful of people that have said over and over and over that Ill be gone shortly, he won't be back, blah fuckin blah.

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 14721801)
O'rly? :1orglaugh

So you are saying Kerry does not come off as an Elitist? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Young 09-07-2008 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721808)
So you are saying Kerry does not come off as an Elitist? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Because he's not a good ol' boy that talks with a southern twang, doesn't wear cowboy hats and doesn't drop one liner tough guy cliches every three seconds? Is that your definition of non-elitist?

Young 09-07-2008 08:25 PM

Anyone who has the fucking gall and the determination to run for higher office is a fucking elitist in my book.

what else can explain the belief that you and only you can run the worlds most powerful country?

notoldschool 09-07-2008 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 14721807)
I'm not sure that Palin is going to shut down the industry... I don't buy into the hysteria.

But she certainly won't do anything good for it either...only a neutral or bad outcome can result in a McCain/Palin Presidency.

She is the most extreme type of Christian nutjob who thinks books are obscene. You are mistaken. The coalition was extremely upset with Bush when he didnt do more to end porn. Why do you think they all got so energized after Palin was put on the ticket.

notoldschool 09-07-2008 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721808)


So you are saying Kerry does not come off as an Elitist? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I would hope our President could be one of the elite, not one of the idiots that most rednecks can relate too. Its funny how Liberal and elite have become bad words because Republicans never offer substance with their plans.

Lane 09-07-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AdvertisingSex (Post 14721511)
what would the Obama supporters say about this video? Would they say that the guy does not know what he is talking about? Maybe... until he walks away from the camera.

enjoy an honest point of view

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8

~Ray
usn '90 - '95

You know it's disgusting to exploit a man like this, who has been to war and lost a limb, by making him read a message on a cardboard, just to gain political advantage.

The candidate that received the most support (money) from troops in Iraq was Ron Paul. Remember? The guy who would have pulled out from Iraq faster than anyone else, even Obama.

After Shock Media 09-07-2008 08:31 PM

Sticky STFU.
Notoldschool get back on topic, and Ron Paul was to insane anyways.

This is about a one legged soldier clinging onto a reason that he can sleep with in regards to his lost leg and how he strung together common sound bites and false information to make his life and sacrifice bearable.

marketsmart 09-07-2008 08:32 PM

all i can say is whether you are a democrat or republican, can anyone even tell me why they are for a particular candidate and why..

and i mean actually understanding what they are pitching, not parroting everything you heard in the news (tv, radio, print, etc)...

i doubt most if any here cant....

EonBlue 09-07-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by simonsyinister (Post 14721648)
Let me say this FUCK MCCAIN, FUCK BUSH..IRAQ WAS FOR OIL!!! NOT REVENGE..NOT TO FIND BIN LADEN...OIL OIL OIL..not for us...OIL for Cheney and BUSH to make their pockets fatter.

This was a lie and a mistake..take all that youtube video and stick it in your gas tank. You just been punk'd by the Bush ADMINISTRATION

If the war was for oil then where is the oil? How are Bush and Cheney supposed to profit off of oil that Iraq is going to sell to China?

Lane 09-07-2008 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721736)
...Its your repeated bs about "Fox news" they are conspiring with the republicans...

If you don't wanna take the word of gfy'ers (understandably), maybe the owner of Fox News can convince you:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0K2pLo8JV5Y

spacedog 09-07-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EmpireAutopilot (Post 14721585)
Yeah.

Sorry he joined a military known for sticking it's nose in other countries affairs?

Sorry he blindly followed orders and was a part of an illegal war waged on lies and got hurt in the process?

Sorry that he's too stupid to realize that everything he spoke of in the video is irrelevant if we shouldn't have invaded Iraq in the first place?

Sorry that he has to live with the fact that he was a part of or complicit in the deaths of thousands of Iraqis, again based on 100% lies from the Bush admin?

Sorry that not everyone will honor someone stupid enough to do all of the above then take up for the idiocy because he's so patriotic?

What exactly should he be honored for?

Because he risked his own fucking life to give freedom to another human being.

Because he was selfless and made sacrifices so that another human being can have the chance to live free from oppression..

Because he fought for what he believes in..

Because he stood up and volunteered when so many turned their backs.

Because Iraqi children now have the chance of a life free of Saddam Hussein or another like him.

Because FREEDOM has it's price, irregardless of location, all human beings are entitled to it!

cykoe6 09-07-2008 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721817)
She is the most extreme type of Christian nutjob who thinks books are obscene. You are mistaken. The coalition was extremely upset with Bush when he didnt do more to end porn. Why do you think they all got so energized after Palin was put on the ticket.

Unfortunately you are correct about this. There is little doubt that the Republicans are more likely to harm the porn industry than the Democrats because of their fealty to the religious right. The argument that both parties are the same on this issue is disingenuous. If that is the primary issue on which you are voting then you would be better served to vote for the Democrats in most cases.

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14721834)
Sticky STFU.
Notoldschool get back on topic, and Ron Paul was to insane anyways.

This is about a one legged soldier clinging onto a reason that he can sleep with in regards to his lost leg and how he strung together common sound bites and false information to make his life and sacrifice bearable.

Think I have as much right to an opinion as anyone here.

Young 09-07-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14721817)
She is the most extreme type of Christian nutjob who thinks books are obscene

Oh yes...I forgot that she pulled books that she didn't agree with out of the local library as mayor.

That is fucking scary. I stand corrected.

After Shock Media 09-07-2008 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14721854)
Think I have as much right to an opinion as anyone here.

No, now stfu.

Seriously just get back onto topic and stop with the party line side debates.

Young 09-07-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 14721850)
Because he risked his own fucking life to give freedom to another human being.

Because he was selfless and made sacrifices so that another human being can have the chance to live free from oppression..

Because he fought for what he believes in..

Because he stood up and volunteered when so many turned their backs.

Because Iraqi children now have the chance of a life free of Saddam Hussein or another like him.

Because FREEDOM has it's price, irregardless of location, all human beings are entitled to it!

That does not give him the fucking right to be President. Sorry....nice try.

He also was involved in one of the biggest Savings and Loans scandals in American History.

He also dumped his disabled wife in favor of a young hotty from Arizona who was made of money and political influence.

All the honor in the world can't hide the fact that he is a cheater, liar, and opportunist. All 3 of those adjectives can be proven by his actions.

marketsmart 09-07-2008 08:41 PM

all i can say is whether you are a democrat or republican, can anyone even tell me why they are for a particular candidate and why..

and i mean actually understanding what they are pitching, not parroting everything you heard in the news (tv, radio, print, etc)...

i doubt most if any here cant....

stickyfingerz 09-07-2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14721862)
No, now stfu.

Seriously just get back onto topic and stop with the party line side debates.

Party line debates? :uhoh

badmunchkin 09-07-2008 08:47 PM

I like this one better

https://youtube.com/watch?v=haP8etpi2ao


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