Well... the poing of our dispute being... what than? If we basically agree on everything :)

It's true that 90% of affiliates who subscribe never send a single click. So what? :) Nothing, if you ask me.

If you choose to fight that it's your business, I'm not going to dispute your program's policy regarding pre-approval of affiliate accounts. I just personally do not see any sense in it, as it's not going to bring you a single sale on top of what you have now.

Btw, not all affiliate accounts that are not sending clicks are surfers. There're lots of webmasters who subscribe just in case. I've seen it many times when accounts that have been dead for years all of a sudden would start sending decent sales.

But again, Big Tits is a pretty broad niche. For barefootsies and tony404...the REAL webmasters in that niche will seek them out and write them an email and ASK to promote them. Remember...they are specialized micro-niches.

Don't hold your breath about all webmasters seeking for your program and e-mailing to you. Those may be micro niches, but still there are plenty of great sites to promote without any headacke of e-mailing for invites and proving you're the "quality" guy. You know the common web rule - every additional step in registration will reduce the number of those willing to signup. Same goes for webmasters. Some will not like the attitude of those "pretentious fucks", some will think they'll e-mail later and never will etc etc.

Heck no Nautilus, I'm not fighting with you. I'm just discussing with you. :) I'm just saying that tony and barefootsies know their stuff pretty well. As I know mine and you know yours. I like real discussions with other people in the business. I learn something every time.

I have never understood this attitude - how hard is it to shoot off an email and speak to the staff at a programme? Don't you WANT to know the people who run the site you promote? don't you WANT to know that they are paying attention and willing to work with you?

Looks like you have made up you mind already and not going to listen for any advise. Good luck than :) I really mean it. I've seen much weirder and less logical (than invite only programs) ventures to succeed, only because their founding farthers believed what they do is right.

Heh-heh...I just realized I'm one of your dead affiliates. Just swamped with shit. Looks like I sent you about 4000 hits a few years ago and made a little over $1600 And then kinda forgot about it. :( Do you guys send out emails with your newest promo tools? Like hosted galleries and such? I have all my CC Bill accounts merged into one big one that has almost 200 cash programs in it. And CC Bill has such a bad admin area...I'd love to get back on the ball with you if you guys send out affiliate emails. :)

Same here :) And thanks for intelligent arguments btw.

Robbie, you make it sound so easy. I have to start picking your brain for some advice on a couple of my new niche projects.

I wouldn't go so far as to say my arguments are "intelligent" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Jimmy Gunn! What's up!
It is easy when you're Robbie Boyette. LOL :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh
No, you know as well as I do NOTHING is easy. Bro, I'm like you...working 10 to 12 hours a day EVERY DAY including weekends, holidays etc. The only "vacation" I get is going to "broventions" and hanging out with everybody buying drinks and calling everyone "topnotch" :1orglaugh :pimp Hell, I'd pre-check x-sell my own mother if it would make me a dollar lol

I am listening to input on those who've run invite only programs.

I've been in this for 11 years now. Producing my own for 4 or 5 now. I've tried many traffic sources, and done many of the 'tricks'. Obviously, as my ratios show, I have figured out what works.

Making assumptions on what I have, or have not decided based on your 'tips' is flawed. But thanks for your time toots. You and Robbie have provided feedback many can use.

:)

You do not need to understand this attitude, you just need to know it is there :)

Don't you WANT to know the people who run the site you promote? don't you WANT to know that they are paying attention and willing to work with you?


Yes you may not want to know who is there behind the program, if your idea is to throw several of their galleries into rotation and see how it goes. If you work with the program long enough and doing well with it, than maybe you'll want to chat with the people behind it. But until that there's often just nothing to talk about. Why bother than?

We usually send e-mails only when there's a new site added to the program, or when there are major news available such as stats upgrade etc. No new galleries e-mailed automatically yet - we plan to do that, but for now you need to setup it manually, if you wish new galleries to get sent to your e-mail address every week.

Our galleries mailer is quite flexible but maybe a bit too complex, so you can simply e-mail me what galleries do you want to receive, I'll configure it for you myself (support ferrocash com).

I'll go check it out now and get it set up. Thanks!

Damn...Hey Nautilus...since I signed up many years ago I did so when you were a CC Bill signup. And I've merged all my accounts about 5 years ago on CCBill.
How do I go about logging in to Ferro Cash now to get the galleries? All I have is my CCBill id. :( I'm emailing you now. :)

Just answered :)

Thanks. :)

Robbie are you on "vacation" on September 25-27 btw.
so we can be hanging out with everybody buying us drinks and calling us "topnotch" /

I want to be....But I can't make it to Amsterdam this year. That's when I will be in the middle of my move to Vegas.

Will you be at the "brovention"?

yep friday and saturday hit me up for my cellphonenumber if you wanna talk/meet/drink

Robbie yes offcourse I forgot all about the moving, jeez ............

sorry Barefootsies for the miscommunication/misunderstanding.

No worries mate.
I'll get a drink from you at one of the "broventions" one of these days.
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I will be trading fuzebucks invites for drinks at the upcoming Atlanta Brovention. :2 cents:

Sweet Rob! Meet me at one of the sponsored bars so I can "buy" you a drink. Matter of fact...first night in on the 17th I'm taking you and a bunch of people to a strip club!

I have arranged for a huge limo to take you and some of my friends to the strip club. (it will resemble a bus and probably have Pussy Cash banners on it)

The "limo" is gonna take us to the strip club. Once there you will see PussyCash banners everywhere...uhhhh, I told them they could hang them, yeah, that's it. I'll "buy" you all the drinks you want and all the lap dances too!

That's the kind of guy I am. And what the hell...bring ZombieGirl too. I'm feeling generous! :pimp

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Don't forget Jimmy Gunn

i can see the points from both side

Indeed.

Lightspeed, last I knew, wasn't invite only. But you had to still be approved. I remember a few years back they decided to start doing more brand management and took that step.

No idea........

Thanks for mentioning me!