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Paul Markham 09-13-2008 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 14746189)
There is no ''standard" when it comes to shooting...If there are customers to buy it, then it's good porn..

If you think you can do better, shoot "better quality" porn and take the industry by storm...Then kick ass and take names...

Otherwise..................................

What is "better quality" ?

Some think it's HD cameras with crap lighting and the content still a girl on a sofa type porn. But it's HD so it has to be better. :1orglaugh

Some think it's high production and lots of money. One top producer from the old days is convinced dubbing over the girls fake moans in a film that costs thousands, and I don't mean two, is the way forward.

Some think it's shooting a niche no one else is shooting. Because few buy it.

You're right, it's governed by the customers. Obviously the above is dead right better quality and all those companies shooting the above are selling hand over fist. :Oh crap

I have been formulating an idea that I will be shooting a few test scenes of soon. Then we will see if it's better quality. I go by the consumer buying.

Cherry7 09-13-2008 02:42 AM

Another quote I think of interest...

For an industry sorely lacking in market research, there are certainly a lot of unspoken rules in porn: ?Don?t have too much storyline,? ?don?t get too artsy,? ?stick with cliches; they sell!? The drab, insipid list goes on and on.

I?ve come to suspect that these rules are not the result of what audiences have truly asked for ? rather, they?re what satiates the lowest common denominator. Or to be fair, perhaps it?s just that the average consumer has resigned his or herself to the fact that when it comes to porn they shouldn?t expect much by way of quality: not technically, not performance-wise, and certainly not from the dialogue.

The funny thing is, it takes just a little imagination.....

willykid 09-13-2008 07:17 AM

Nessa
 
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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 14719415)
Who is she? Post a picture please.

From one of your earlier threads ...
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/846374-girl-custom-taking.html

SexualDragon 09-13-2008 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 14715797)
Hardcore g/g. Girls that will fuck each other with toys or a strap-on. Girls that will actually eat each other out. That is what I am looking for for my girlfriends video gallery. Hard not to find stuff that looks fake as hell. Grr.

I like your thinking

Paul Markham 09-13-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 14749020)
Another quote I think of interest...

For an industry sorely lacking in market research, there are certainly a lot of unspoken rules in porn: ?Don?t have too much storyline,? ?don?t get too artsy,? ?stick with cliches; they sell!? The drab, insipid list goes on and on.

I?ve come to suspect that these rules are not the result of what audiences have truly asked for ? rather, they?re what satiates the lowest common denominator. Or to be fair, perhaps it?s just that the average consumer has resigned his or herself to the fact that when it comes to porn they shouldn?t expect much by way of quality: not technically, not performance-wise, and certainly not from the dialogue.

The funny thing is, it takes just a little imagination.....

They might of, but today there is no reason for someone to buy this type of porn other than the convenience of downloading and quality. Tube sites will provide this level of porn in scene after scene. All the same they just change the girl on the sofa and sometime talk to her. Often it's just a straight anonymous fuck that's clearly faked and clearly false. Why sign up to a site with 100 scenes like this when you can go to a Tube site and get 1,000 for free?

For 8 years the emphasis has been on exclusive content and that's good. But then the buyers just shot the same scene or similar time after time and the exclusiveness only mattered to the industry and had little meaning to the consumer. Girl on a sofa porn is just a girl on a sofa, different girl, guy or sofa does not make it exclusive to the consumer prepared to pay for it.

So what does make a scene exclusive? Build up, storyline or situation and the girls personality, character and reactions all make it real. The sex will always be the same, a pussy being fucked, fingered, licked, or done with a dildo is always going to look the same. A scene should have no more than 10% pussy close up, once in every position is good enough. And if the girl is faking it badly showing her face is not a good idea.

So why has the industry got so out of touch on what the customers want to buy? I include the DVD industry as well on this as some of their content is total garbage. Private dub over the girls faked moans so badly it makes their scenes a joke.

The drive over the last 10 years has been to put more titles on shelves year after year for the same cost. Include more traffic to sites and more sites. If you continually drop the quality of what you sell you get to the point of the buyer asking himself why should he buy.

Welcome to 2008.

You can of course continue to blame others for stealing your disgruntled customers and spend more money sending more traffic to sites that continue to see worse ratios. But those who step out of the rut and produce what the customer will buy will win.

Quote:

The funny thing is, it takes just a little imagination.....

Paul Markham 09-13-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by willykid (Post 14749940)

My mate who shoots exclusive was shooting her. She's available exclusive only.

WWC 09-14-2008 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Calico Jack (Post 14716020)
Foot fetish...hard to get good content!

I like sexy toes .... big turn off if a girl has ugly toes....:thumbsup

Paul Markham 09-14-2008 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Calico Jack (Post 14716020)
Foot fetish...hard to get good content!

No it's not. Was talking to a mate last night who has shot for and been published in Leg Show, Leg Sex and a few more leg and foot fetish mags. He also shoots a good video. Problem is if you want top end stuff it's not cheap and exclusive only.

Needs a good model with good body, legs and feet. Then a pedicure and manicure. If you want to got for the top end stuff you need the clothes to go with it. Not a scene that can be churned out 5 a day for $2000. :1orglaugh

Cherry7 09-14-2008 01:52 PM

The way cameras have become cheaper it becomes cheaper and cheaper to produce increasing quantity of quite reasonable shots. We quantity overwhelming quality the answer has to be to produce material not available for free everywhere.

This could be the niche "one armed dwarfs with cats " or what the photographer Videomaker contributes in quality.

This interesting thing is that not only do the latest cameras allow hundreds of shots to be taken but also now hold and capture the quality that used to be only with film. So now lighting /props a girls beauty can be captured...

I believe you are based in Prague, so are lucky in having access to the most beautiful girls. That gives you a big head start.

Of course how you adapt to this changing world is for you. For us, agreeing with you that one girl on a sofa is like another, is to turn away from quantity and to make less but better and better. Only the best girls, having stories, lighting, good sound music.... and trying to find ways a giving the client the movie in the best quality possible given the limitations of the internet.

It is good that you post these threads, I find them the most interesting and ones that are useful

Paul Markham 09-14-2008 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 14755169)
The way cameras have become cheaper it becomes cheaper and cheaper to produce increasing quantity of quite reasonable shots. We quantity overwhelming quality the answer has to be to produce material not available for free everywhere.

This could be the niche "one armed dwarfs with cats " or what the photographer Videomaker contributes in quality.

This interesting thing is that not only do the latest cameras allow hundreds of shots to be taken but also now hold and capture the quality that used to be only with film. So now lighting /props a girls beauty can be captured...

I believe you are based in Prague, so are lucky in having access to the most beautiful girls. That gives you a big head start.

Of course how you adapt to this changing world is for you. For us, agreeing with you that one girl on a sofa is like another, is to turn away from quantity and to make less but better and better. Only the best girls, having stories, lighting, good sound music.... and trying to find ways a giving the client the movie in the best quality possible given the limitations of the internet.

It is good that you post these threads, I find them the most interesting and ones that are useful

Based in Brno Moravia where the girls are better.

Yes I agree we have to get away from the quantity/price approach and go to shooting something 1,000 others can't shoot. Tubes will always out do us on quantity. But it's not just about the quality of the image, it's about what the image does to the imagination and desire of the buyer.

Thanks for the compliments. I like to talk about what we all sell.

Cherry7 09-15-2008 01:47 AM

It would be nice to talk, but I am afraid we shoot all our own content...

Sometime this year I must visit Prague.

Paul Markham 09-15-2008 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 14757174)
It would be nice to talk, but I am afraid we shoot all our own content...

Sometime this year I must visit Prague.

Come to Brno, it's less crowded, more girls and cheaper.

Paul Markham 09-15-2008 11:47 PM

This was posted on GFY and is interesting.

UK Girls Just Wanna Have Better Girl-Girl Porno Fun

Should they do what Americans do. Pick up a camera and shoot it themselves. Or should they wait for the market to react to the huge profits they are missing out on selling 100 DVDs to UK lesbians? :Oh crap

I have heard so many times that we don't cater for lesbians. So they should cater for themselves.

Paul Markham 09-29-2008 05:51 AM

I will be going to the UK this week to do a deal with a new Internet company. Then back to shooting, got some slightly different ideas on scenes and themes I will work with.


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